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=== Continued discussion ===
=== Continued discussion ===
{{u|Kamranv}}, as there's a lot to discuss in response to that I'll have to get to it later—it's getting a bit late for me, anyway. The main thing to answer is your understanding of the publishing standard isn't wrong, it's just that the process of creating an article should be done through the Articles for Creation process (see the fourth bullet of [[WP:COIEDIT]]). [[User:Perryprog|Perryprog]] ([[User talk:Perryprog|talk]]) 02:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
{{u|Kamranv}}, as there's a lot to discuss in response to that I'll have to get to it later—it's getting a bit late for me, anyway. The main thing to answer is your understanding of the publishing standard isn't wrong, it's just that the process of creating an article should be done through the Articles for Creation process (see the fourth bullet of [[WP:COIEDIT]]). [[User:Perryprog|Perryprog]] ([[User talk:Perryprog|talk]]) 02:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, again. When I originally made the article, I thought that I was following the articles of creation guidelines. Was there a tag or some posting process technicality that I missed? When I read the instructions, it seems like I followed the guidelines. [[User:Kamranv|KamranV]] ([[User talk:Kamranv#top|talk]]) 14:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

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KamranV moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, KamranV, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Perryprog (talk) 23:15, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: KamranV (February 28)

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Email exchange

This is a copy of some of the emails I had with Kamranv, posting here with permission for the sake of transparency. Perryprog (talk) 02:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Email exchange

hi there perry. I'm new to all of this wikipedia stuff and I'm a little confused about what the issue is in publishing it.

It was requested that I create a short entry for myself, most specifically around spacial sound.

I have cited everything extensively with established press. I would very much appreciate any guidance in what more needs to happen so that this can post.

thank you so much for your review.
— User:Kamranv 01:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)


Hi Kamranv,

Thanks for reaching out! I’m sorry that your introduction to editing Wikipedia so far has been pretty confusing—all of the policies and guidelines surrounding pretty much every area of the site is pretty overwhelming, but keep in mind you aren’t expected to know them, so in the strict sense of things it’s not like you’ve done anything “wrong”.

The reason I moved your article out of the “mainspace” (the place where “live” articles are) into “draftspace” (where articles are often worked on before being put in mainspace) is because writers who have a conflict of interest (such as writing about one’s self, as you are) are that you should put new articles through the “Articles for Creation” process, instead of creating them directly.

The Articles for Creation process is basically just a way for an editor to work on a draft version of an article, and then submit it for review and feedback when they believe it’s ready to be in the mainspace. After that, an experienced editor will take a look at it and either accept it and move it into mainspace, or decline it with a reason why it’s not quite ready yet.

That’s just about the gist of it—feel free to let me know if you have further questions, or you can read the corresponding pages of what I just talked about by following the links here:

I’m also a bit curious as to why you say it was requested you make an article on yourself. It’s extremely discouraged to do so in the first place (and I would recommend that you don’t, too), so it’s a bit odd that someone would request you to do so.

Anyway—if you need a place to contact me, my talk page is probably the preferred location as that way our communication can stay on-wiki. You can also stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance.
— User:Perryprog 01:31, 27 February 2021 (UTC)


Hi Perry,

[...]

Thank you so much for this kind explanation. It's all a lot to digest.

As you may have seen in my article, I've had several credible press articles written about my role in rebirthing quadraphonic music. It is some of these very journalists who have asked why there isn't a wiki entry on this and me specifically. They are also not savvy with wikipedia but do like to use this as a reference and suggested that I figure out how to make sure basic information is posted.

I suppose the best question that I have is: what is it about the sources that I cited that are somehow illegitimate for the purposes of wikipedia. I've seen websites that pay to make the article for me but then I see other sites that say don't do this as it's worse... or even getting a friend to do it is shady...

In my research, I saw that it was okay to self publish so long as the conflict of interest is acknowledged, which I thought that I had done. My understanding is that the act of me creating the page, puts it out there for editors like yourself to review and edit as needed.

Also, I just posted a question in the Teahouse specifically around the Music Notability issue. From what I've read, it seems that I have a couple of the music notability requirements covered and I'm wondering what more I need to do. I have:

  • #1: Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.
  • and #7: Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability.

Seriously, thank you very much for your time and effort. the world is a better place with people like you editing wikipedia.
— User:Kamranv 01:59, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Continued discussion

Kamranv, as there's a lot to discuss in response to that I'll have to get to it later—it's getting a bit late for me, anyway. The main thing to answer is your understanding of the publishing standard isn't wrong, it's just that the process of creating an article should be done through the Articles for Creation process (see the fourth bullet of WP:COIEDIT). Perryprog (talk) 02:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, again. When I originally made the article, I thought that I was following the articles of creation guidelines. Was there a tag or some posting process technicality that I missed? When I read the instructions, it seems like I followed the guidelines. KamranV (talk) 14:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]