Talk:List of microconsoles

Generation confusion

The microconsole starts from generation 7. this is because it's parallel to the home console generations. However to people reading the article by itself may get confused where the first 6 generations went. Should the generations start from 1 or should there be a small section explaining why it startsfrom 7? I think the latter makes more sense.GeneticOS (talk) 17:50, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I think a paragraph or sentence mentioning that the microconsole market started in the 7th generation of video game consoles would do it. --Cartakes (talk) 20:26, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

Steam Machine

The Alienware steam machine could be re-mentioned (https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_microconsoles&oldid=686978906 ). I agree it's just one steam machine, but currently there are none mentioned, and it seems to be the most popular one anyway, so it deserves a mention KVDP (talk) 18:18, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

It's not a microconsole, so there's no reason it should be mentioned here. -- ferret (talk) 18:26, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

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These should not be called "microconsoles"

The following I propose should not be included in the microconsole list:

1. Linux-based video game consoles like EVO Smart Console Linux-based version, Tomahawk F1, Atari VCS (Ataribox), etc. (I could see this being debated later on in the future maybe)
2. Livingroom gaming PCs that are miniature like Nutaku's "The Console" which runs Windows 10 apparently[1], Piston Xi3, etc.
3. Steam Machines like Alienware Alpha, etc.
4. Obscure debatable home video game consoles like Hasbro NetJet, Sifteo Cubes (1st version), and the likes. I'm not sure about Easy Link Internet Launch Pad and My Secret Circle, but they appear to be in this group?
5. Others including Steam Link which is just a streaming device to my knowledge. Ok the Intellivision Amico, I realized now it uses a "custom operating system based on the Android and Linux standards."[2] Hmmm, idk. This has never been done before to my knowledge. It was usually "Android-based" or "Linux-based", but now "Android and Linux" which is a huge curveball to me at least. Maybe don't include it?
6. Console variants like PS1 Slim. Yea, they are micro, yea they are cheaper, but are not "microconsoles".
7. Some Digital-only video game consoles like the Xbox One S All-Digital Edition. I could see this being highly debated, because of the PlayStation TV. Whatever, this is getting convoluted anyways. Let's not include the Xbox One S All-Digital Edition imo.
8. Portables, like the portable Nvidia Shield, which imo is a "portable microconsole."
9. "Clone consoles". Polymega is probably more than this because it's planning to have its own Game Store and exclusive games developed for it.[3] Plus, apparently its OS is "Proprietary Linux-based."[4][5] So it belongs in the "Linux-based video game console" list.
10. Built-in-only-games video game consoles, aka by Wikipedia and some people "dedicated consoles." A ton of them are super cheap, micro, have crappy games, but they are not "microconsoles" and shouldn't be.

And maybe some that I'm missing. Unless a company calls their non-microconsole a microconsole, or several journalists, news outlets, articles or reviewers doing so, these shouldn't be considered microconsoles. Charmugen (talk) 14:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Nevermind, FUZE's Tomahawk F1 is just an Android-based video game console. Strikethroughed. It shall be included. Charmugen (talk) 20:56, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

These are my thoughts on the list above. 1. The EVO Smart Console is to my knowledge a full fledged console since it uses SD cards and discs. You did specify a linux version and for that I guess it's just like the XBONE SAD, ignoring #8 on this reply list. As for the VCS, why can android consoles be included but not linux ones 2. Then where would it go? 3. Again, then where would it go? 4. The Net Jet keys don't actually have the games on them, they just let you play the game from the net jet database. The "Easy Link Internet Launch Pad and My Secret Circle" both use the same tech as the NetJet 5. I guess you're right 6. Idk it's a console so who cares 7. Of Course 8. Ehhhhhhhhhhhh 9. Of course 10. I mean, I put it on here because of the digital store, and even though its uses other forms of media as a clone, so does the PSTV so idk 11. We all know that bruh Also, the stadia isn't a console, it's a streaming platform, so..... And, The Fire TV stuff and Apple TV aren't specifically made for gaming so idk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zicari101 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Sorry for not responding on time. Well, it seems like Atari VCS is called a microconsole on its page. Am I going to do anything about it? Probably not because it's too time consuming. If the Nintendo Switch was completely digital only, I bet you guys would call it a microconsole... But the Zeebo was all-digital yet it's not called a microconsole... And then there is the PSTV which takes in game cartridges. The debate goes on. If we include the Atari VCS, people would branch out. "What about the EVO Smart Console? The Steam Machines like the Cyber Steam Machine? etc." It's gonna get messy. Now I'm worried about the future because digital-only consoles might be the future, and the result might be smaller and cheaper consoles, yet more powerful than the previous generations. Now what? Call them microconsoles and completely leave them out of, "home video game consoles"? I won't join in the debate. "Microconsole" is such a terribly vague term, and the original creator(s) who coined this term to mean whatever it mean't back in 2013 has abandoned us all.[6] It's why the confusion is upon us all. I'll let you guys figure out whether Atari VCS actually belongs here or not, or if it's even a game console, because many people are saying it's just a, "PC". I think the Atari VCS is a, "home video game console". Same with Steam Machines, but many people won't agree. Oh well. At least they are, "video game consoles". Now there is a, "retro style" game console section and I'm ok with it belonging there. Charmugen (talk) 23:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Upcoming microconsoles

Should we also list upcoming microconsoles like the Intellivision Amico (https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/intellivision-amico-vs-atari-vcs-comparing-two-baffling-retro-consoles)?Maxeto0910 (talk) 02:27, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but convince me, why is the Amico a microconsole? I see it listed in the "retro sytle" video game console list, and I'm quite ok with it belonging there. Just call it a "retro style" video game console, but imo it should have been a, "home video game console". Lots of people seem to disagree, oh well. Charmugen (talk) 23:10, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

www.oldschoolgamermagazine.com: "According to Tallarico, the hardware runs the Android OS atop a Linux kernel"[7] GamesBeat interview: "But our OS is a hybrid, a Linux/Android hybrid that we’ve created in house. It’s very solid, but it’s very flexible, with Linux being the flexible part and Android being the solid part."[8] This probably implies a, Android OS/Linux OS hybrid, not an "Android OS atop of Linux kernel". Linux is a, "family of open-source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel"[9], so Linux OS does not = Linux kernel. Amico might just be an Android-based console after all. Amico will be available in 10/10/2021 supposedly, so let's wait and see. Charmugen (talk) 00:35, 5 March 2021 (UTC)