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{{ping|Lakeperson|Sbmeirow}} The presidential election table adds [[WP:UNDUE|undue weight]]. The table features only one level of government, and avoids state and local leaders. The table is out-of-scope and overly detailed, and is not suggested at [[WP:USCITIES]]. [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677|talk]]) 11:23, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
{{ping|Lakeperson|Sbmeirow}} The presidential election table adds [[WP:UNDUE|undue weight]]. The table features only one level of government, and avoids state and local leaders. The table is out-of-scope and overly detailed, and is not suggested at [[WP:USCITIES]]. [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677|talk]]) 11:23, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
: I agree with Magnolia677. The table as presented is ugly, it is a data-dump with no accompanying text to put it in appropriate context (presumably because no secondary sources exist), and the idea that the politics of a town are best best discussed in terms of presidential election results are highly dubious at best. --[[User:JayBeeEll|JBL]] ([[User_talk:JayBeeEll|talk]]) 13:47, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
: I agree with Magnolia677. The table as presented is ugly, it is a data-dump with no accompanying text to put it in appropriate context (presumably because no secondary sources exist), and the idea that the politics of a town are best best discussed in terms of presidential election results are highly dubious at best. --[[User:JayBeeEll|JBL]] ([[User_talk:JayBeeEll|talk]]) 13:47, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
:I disagree. To parrot what I said on another discussion, I think displaying election results has encyclopedic value and can provide insight into the demographics of the town and how the party politics of an area have changed over time. While I have no problem with adding additional lists for state and local leaders, I think at the very least showing historic presidential election results as an umbrella for the political leanings of a settlement is valuable and worth keeping. I don't think we should disregard the data because it is "ugly", simply make the tables collapsible but available for those who want it. [[User:Mbdfar|Mbdfar]] ([[User talk:Mbdfar|talk]]) 18:44, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

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Presidential election table

@Lakeperson and Sbmeirow: The presidential election table adds undue weight. The table features only one level of government, and avoids state and local leaders. The table is out-of-scope and overly detailed, and is not suggested at WP:USCITIES. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:23, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Magnolia677. The table as presented is ugly, it is a data-dump with no accompanying text to put it in appropriate context (presumably because no secondary sources exist), and the idea that the politics of a town are best best discussed in terms of presidential election results are highly dubious at best. --JBL (talk) 13:47, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. To parrot what I said on another discussion, I think displaying election results has encyclopedic value and can provide insight into the demographics of the town and how the party politics of an area have changed over time. While I have no problem with adding additional lists for state and local leaders, I think at the very least showing historic presidential election results as an umbrella for the political leanings of a settlement is valuable and worth keeping. I don't think we should disregard the data because it is "ugly", simply make the tables collapsible but available for those who want it. Mbdfar (talk) 18:44, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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