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Shuchi Anand

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Doesn't meet WP:NPROF or WP:GNG notability guidelines; nothing in this bio that stands apart from a typical clinical researcher/professor. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 04:40, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. Agreed with the nominator that this does not satisfy WP:NPROF or WP:GNG. SunDawn (talk) 05:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. Vikram Vincent 11:24, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Delete prer nom and can't find anything to justify the article. Taung Tan (talk) 11:53, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Delete: Fails GNG Kichu🐘 ^Discuss 15:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Delete As per all above, fails in satsifying WP:NPROF or WP:GNG. Hulatam (talk) 17:57, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

  Blocked for UPE. MER-C 13:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

• Delete. Pasting my Talk comment on her notability here: The only criterion that seems applicable is NPROF, but her citation record is basically just a bit over standard fair for investigators publishing in nephrology. This is especially true when it's purely clinical trajectories, cohort studies, international consortia, etc. where basically twice a year someone belonging to some massive clinical working group gets the whole department (the attendings, the chair, rotating med students, random passers-by...) alphabetical coauthorship on a 300-author annual report. Seriously, there are people with 50 papers who have over 10,000 unique coauthors. Her citation metrics (in an extremely high-citation field) are around the median among 150 of her coauthors (who have 20+ papers) and well below the average: Total citations: average: 6927, median: 1378, Anand: 1593. Total papers: avg: 129, med: 65, A: 66. h-index: avg: 27, med: 17, A: 20. Highest citation: avg: 957, med: 257, A: 512. I'll also throw in the uninformative but highly amusing parameters of number of unique coauthors: avg: 1896, med: 884, A: 884; and coauthors per paper: avg: 15, med: 8, A: 17, top score: 218. Plus some links to articles on authorship issues in clinical research. JoelleJay (talk) 18:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
• Keep I did a quick Google News search and found multiple hits explaining her contributions to health and particularly the COVID-19 pandemic, including this, this, this, this and this. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
• Keep I've revised the article and added sources, including from Stanford News, CNN, Bloomberg, and Newsweek. Per WP:NPROF criteria 1, "The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources," (my emphasis) e.g. "pioneering a scalable sampling strategy that offers a blueprint for standardised national serosurveillance in the USA and other countries with a large haemodialysing population," per Imperial College London professors Barnaby Flower and Christina Atchison, but this also looks like WP:BASIC notability due to the amount of news coverage, including the sources noted by Ritchie333. Beccaynr (talk) 23:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC) Other sources added include USA Today with commentary from other scientists discussing the importance of the study, and brief commentary about the study in a December 2020 Brookings report. Beccaynr (talk) 02:21, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, while the news coverage is certainly more persuasive, it's also limited to the one study--is being lead author on a paper that made a brief splash enough to establish notability? The level of commentary is pretty standard for papers published in high-profile journals, and especially in COVID-19 there will be heightened broadcasting of all clinical results. And the response from other scientists has been much more tempered -- see this Nature Reviews Nephrology review of the paper Although this study demonstrates the potential of monitoring infectious disease prevalence in dialysis populations, the findings should be interpreted with caution.. JoelleJay (talk) 04:01, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

That review also states, "However, at the very least, surveillance provides invaluable information on asymptomatic cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection in patients on haemodialysis to better understand local outbreaks and guide improvements for infection prevention in this extremely vulnerable patient group," and the 'caution' described sounds similar to what the study authors disclosed, per the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at U. Minn. The reason why I also suggest WP:BASIC notability is the reported impact of the study, not just its scientific method, e.g. by Brookings in December 2020, which described the study as "Perhaps the best currently available estimate" in a report about the impact of misinformation. The study also appears to align with a theme in Anand's work to examine systemic bias in the prevalence and outcomes of disease, and in this instance, to advocate publicly for targeted public health interventions (e.g. CIDRAP, The Print). In addition, both the Brookings report and the USA Today article discuss the pandemic information landscape, with the USAToday article offering public health detail and many other articles picking up on how the study helped undermine the idea of a natural 'herd immunity' quickly being possible. From my view, there has been an unusual level of news coverage, apparently due to the significance of the study for several reasons, and per Newsweek and Bloomberg, it sounds like the study is still underway, so erring on the side of keeping this article and perhaps revisiting it after the next phase of this high-profile study is published makes more sense given the amount of attention it has already received, because it is "notable and almost certain to take place," per WP:CRYSTAL. Beccaynr (talk) 16:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the Article Rescue Squadron's list of content for rescue consideration. Beccaynr (talk) 01:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I agree the study itself received a modest amount of coverage; my concern is that it's just the one study, and she herself isn't being profiled in-depth in these sources in a way that would meet BASIC. NPROF C1 demands either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates, with the clarification that citations need to occur in peer-reviewed scholarly publications such as journals or academic books. I don't think the lay media coverage is sufficient, and so far the academic citations fall far short of notability. I'll also add that the "pioneering concept" is also too soon to evaluate as truly impactful -- it certainly does not meet C1 requirements of In this case it is necessary to explicitly demonstrate, by a substantial number of references to academic publications of researchers other than the person in question, that this contribution is indeed widely considered to be significant and is widely attributed to the person in question. That other professors have been quoted praising the study does not count toward this metric. JoelleJay (talk) 02:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)