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I received an email saying my posts re: Darbyville had been removed . WHAT POSTS ???? I have never posted to Wikipedia . I live some miles from Darbyville, Ohio? but have never posted anything. What the H is this all about ??????? Who are you people ??? I don't know anything about URLs or whatever you want me to reference. I have no ida what is going on here . Have you hijacked me??? 74.113.40.72 (talk) 06:56, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm not really sure. you could try to report this to wiki administration. maybe it's a hack or something. User:Lovin'Politics (talk) 07:05, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. You are using an IP address that can be shared among multiple people in your area. On February 1, 2021, someone using your same IP address engaged in some minor vandalism of Darbyville, Ohio. It probably wasn't you. If you want to avoid these messages, you may want to register a free, anonymous Wikipedia account. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:18, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

its certainly not a 'hack' or a 'hijack' or something Paul ❬talk❭ 08:53, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

How would an IP address editor get an e-mail? That doesn't make any sense. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 06:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

They would see it (not actually an "e-mail") the same way you did, by looking at User talk:74.113.40.72. Like it says at the bottom of that page, "This is the discussion page for an IP user, identified by the user's IP address. Many IP addresses change periodically, and are often shared by several users." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia page for my father

How can I create a Wikipedia page for my father? Gmelikyan (talk) 05:35, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

First - sources. No sources, no article. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 05:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Assuming I have the sources, what's the next step?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gmelikyan (talk • contribs) 06:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Gmelikyan you'll have to see if your draft gets approved Lovin'Politics (talk)

Understood. Is there any fill-in-the-blank template where I can fill out information such as "summary","personal life", etc., or does all of that have to be entered manually?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Gmelikyan (talk • contribs) 06:11, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Gmelikyan you could use templates like infoboxes

Gmelikyan There isn't, as articles have different sections depending on their scope; an article about a person is structured differently than one about a chemical element. You can peruse similar articles to get an idea of how the article should be structured, but that would depend on what reliable sources you have on hand. Infoboxes should be used to summarise and note key points that are stated in the article. If you are going to create an article about your father, please read Your first article and understand that you have a conflict of interest due to your relationship, which can hamper your ability to edit it if it makes it into articlespace. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:41, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Gmelikyan, you can use {{subst:Biography}} in your sandbox and go from there. The template, of course, is a guide and not a rigid set of requirements. Honestly, the key is the sources; as long as the prose is not atrocious, the article will stand regardless of structure. (On the other hand, a properly formatted article whose sources do not prove the subject meets inclusion criteria won't survive.) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 13:15, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

How to ask for a page with a notability question to be reviewed

Hello, I have been updating the page François Picard (journalist) and have been adding references to ensure that they are external, reliable sources. I have a conflict of interest so cannot remove the notability template. I have asked this on the talk page, but not sure if that is the right area? How do I get this checked again in the hope that the template may be removed? Many thanks for your help. Factelf4 (talk) 12:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Factelf4 I've fixed your link. Yes, the talk page is the correct place to ask. You will draw more attention to it if you make your comment a formal edit request(click for instructions). 331dot (talk) 12:47, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Factelf4 uh, you've added waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many references.

Can you point out, say, two or three that provide significant biographical coverage? It doesn't matter how many passing mentions they get and I don't want to check 56 references. Elli (talk | contribs) 12:49, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Elli Thanks for the tip. Should I remove some of the references or just point out the main ones?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Factelf4 (talk • contribs) 12:55, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

@Factelf4: I'd remove any references that are redundant - and only keep ones that back up unique content, so the number of references is minimal, but everything is verifiable. Elli (talk | contribs) 13:13, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

See also advice at WP:OVERKILL. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:21, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

@Factelf4: Since you have a conflict of interest, you should not be directly editing the article. Instead, you can make edit requests on the talk page as 331dot mentioned above. GoingBatty (talk) 22:56, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

@Factelf4: alternatively, Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard walks you through each step of the request process. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 13:26, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Help to trim down the content based on your expertise for page name Sonu Goel, well known public health professional

Thank you for your reply, may I request you to trim down the content based on your expertise for the Sonu Goel page which I have recreated, but unfortunately not accepted!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakeshsipher (talk • contribs) 11:49, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I took a look at the article to see if I might help and got as far as the Section Draft:Sonu_Goel#Early life and education. This is written in a WP:PEACOCK style, with nothing of general interest: just describing a standard education to PhD level but in a self-congratulatory tone. So I gave up. I suggest you Rakeshsipher WP:TNT and create a new, much shorter draft with, say five independent reliable sources showing Goel's WP:NOTABILITY in a Wikipedia sense. Then such an draft might get accepted and motivate others to improve it further. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Example: Dr.Goel chose the noble and prestigious medical profession as a medium to gratify his burning desire to serve the community. Try Goel decided to become a doctor. It's unlikely that anyone other than yourself, Rakeshsipher, will want to bother to do all the needed "trimming" (wielding of the editorial machete). Incidentally, what's your relationship to Goel? -- Hoary (talk) 13:36, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I see walls of text, excessive promotion, unreferenced claims, and unsuitable references. It'll be easier to start afresh, following Wikipedia's policies this time, than to transform the current version into an acceptable state. Maproom (talk) 18:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I took an ax (cut close to 1/3) from Draft:Sonu Goel, but it still needs a lot of work. Please do answer Hoary's question about the nature of your relationship with Sonu Goel. David notMD (talk) 19:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

And I then took an adze to it. However, I soon tired: I should have used a larger implement (and really, I think that Maproom's solution is best). ¶ One thing I noticed, Rakeshsipher, is that a substantial percentage of Goel's many achievements are "sourced", as we say, to papers written by Goel. As a humdrum example, let me quote:

As a Bloomberg Initiative to Reduce Tobacco Control grantee (2018-2020 and 2020-2022), he is strengthening institutional mechanisms and supporting enactment of state-level policies for FCTC Article 5.3 in four focused states of India (Odisha, Meghalaya, Telangana and Puducherry) along with developing an accountability system to monitor and stop tobacco industry (TI) interference and documenting it in peer reviewed journals.

Note that the reference is to a "Project" of Goel's (not even a paper) at Researchgate: "The objective of the study is to strengthen the policy and institutional framework of National tobacco control program in states of Odisha, Telangana, Meghalaya and Puducherry in India through capacity building, MPOWER policy implementation and enactment of FCTC Article 5.3 policy in these four states." Note how an objective of strengthening such-and-such has, in the Wikipedia draft, become the actual strengthening of it. Such "sourcing" is utterly unsatisfactory. ¶ Incidentally, David notMD and I are still awaiting your answer to my question above. -- Hoary (talk) 08:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Asking for help in creating a more balanced Jefferson Starship article.

I recently opened a dispute resolution case in regards to the Jefferson Starship article. I've been trying to add a more balanced perspective to the article, but have been running into ongoing resistance in my attempts to do so, by another editor for several years. A neutral editor offered his suggestions, Ritchie333. He thought the article didn't say much about the band's musical contributions to music history and offered little information about other original band members, and I agree. Are there any editors out there that can help me break the logjam? Are there other editors familiar with music articles that can offer assistance? I would be most appreciative of any advice. Regards, Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 23:21, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: Jefferson Starship TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:26, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Cheryl Fullerton: You could start a discussion on Talk:Jefferson Starship, and then post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pop music and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rock music to encourage interested editors to join the discussion. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 23:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

@Cheryl Fullerton: It appears that there has been some progress with the lead. I recommend in the future that you archive the old discussion and try to summarize the current issue in a short paragraph. Uninvolved editors may not have time to read the massive text contained in the past discussions. In the meantime, while I was trying to figure this out, I noticed a couple of errors in the Jefferson Starship member timeline. The name "Starship The Next Generation" at the top left is cut off, and the index is corrupted. Any timeline experts here who can take a crack at fixing it? TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Cheryl Fullerton - The other editor did not respond to your case at the dispute resolution noticeboard. I said that I would assist you in developing a Request for Comments if you asked for help. Do you want help in developing a Request for Comments? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Robert McClenon Yes, thank you! I could use any help you can offer. Thank you!Cheryl Fullerton (talk) 19:51, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Cheryl Fullerton The best place to discuss this is the article talk page, Talk:Jefferson Starship. Please explain there what the issue is. (Other editors may also comment, and that is all right.) Robert McClenon (talk) 20:07, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Cover Art Vs. Logo

I'm looking into what the most appropriate method is for uploading a podcast cover art. I was originally under the impression that when using WP:FUW that I should choose "This is the official cover art of a work." because a podcast has very comparable cover art to that of a music album, however, I recently came across Category:Podcast logos and now I'm wondering whether I should be choosing "This is a logo of an organization, company, brand, etc." instead. Which should I use?

Hi im aghnoo And i got on this website 11 days ago!

I'm also a little unclear what the ideal answers are to some of the fields in the Upload Wizard. For instance, when including a "Source" I recently found out it's best practice to include a URL, but not to have a direct link to the image. Is it best if that source is from the official website or from a secondary source like Google Podcasts or Apple Podcasts? TipsyElephant (talk) 00:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant official website works as the "source". Can you link the podcast? Elli (talk | contribs) 00:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Elli: I was referring to podcasts in general. I'm part of the Wikiproject and I intend to go through and add a cover for each of the podcasts, but I want to make sure I'm doing it correctly before I add any more covers. TipsyElephant (talk) 00:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant it really does not matter what you pick in this case. Probably Category:Podcast logos would be preferable. Elli (talk | contribs) 00:31, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant, the most important thing is that the upload complies with the policy on use of non-free images. In my view, "cover art" refers mostly to physical objects like books and music albums (although those are increasingly online). So, I would be inclined to check the logo box when uploading the image. Yes, the source should be from the official website of the podcast itself. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:50, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Elli: I think I'm confused, in part, because it appears that WP:LOGO and Logo seem to almost exclusively refer to companies, brands, and coat of arms (which is what I normally think of when using the word "logo"). When you google music logo you get music company logos like iTunes, but when you search music cover you get album arts. When you search podcast logo you get podcast company logos and generic logos related to podcasting, but when you search podcast cover you get tons of cover art for podcasts. I read a little more into this topic at WP:FUR and WP:NFC, but they don't provide many specifics related to logos versus cover art. A quick glance at WP:TAGS/FU seems to indicate that podcasts would make more sense under cover art, but podcasts don't have a template yet. Would it be worth looking into creating a template?

I'm also still confused about the different rationale templates. Should I be using Template:Non-free use rationale logo or Template:Non-free use rationale 2, and what about this redirect Template:Logo fur. All three are present within Category:Podcast logos. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:20, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant you can use whichever template you like. {{Non-free use rationale 2}} is made to be auto-filled by the upload wizard. Perhaps creating a template would be useful but I'm not sure that's necessary. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:40, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Elli: I decided to try both options with the upload wizard and it looks like the only difference is that cover art include "author" and "date" so I'll probably just stick with the cover art option because it's more thorough. I realized afterward that the license is obviously different, but I have to pick a specific option in the upload wizard because I actually ended up with {{Non-free symbol}} instead of {{Non-free logo}}.

Do you know what the rules and guidelines regarding edits of file pages? For instance, if a file doesn't contain enough useful information can I just add information? What if it doesn't have a listed source? Can I just list the official website even if I don't know exactly where the image came from? TipsyElephant (talk) 12:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant file pages can be edited like any other pages. You should list a page with the actual source image, though... Elli (talk | contribs) 23:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Elli: what exactly do you mean by source image? If the image uploaded to Wikipedia was originally downloaded from iTunes but I list the source as the official website of the podcast is that okay? They might look identical but they are likely different sizes and resolutions. TipsyElephant (talk) 01:55, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

TipsyElephant yes, that's OK, as long as the image is available there. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:58, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Do you understand what the "auto=yes" option for {{Non-free logo}} does? I removed it from to see what would happen and I don't see what changed. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:59, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

How do I autosign posts?

I'd like to be able to autosign posts like at the Teahouse (e.g. the text that shows up at the bottom of your post when you create one here). Is there a way for me to do this for all of my messages in talk pages, or to set this up in settings? Thanks in advance! Tyrone Madera (talk) 00:50, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Tyrone Madera: There are two ways to do this. Either:

1. Add four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment, or
2. With the cursor positioned at the end of your comment, click on the signature button located above the edit window.

This will automatically insert a signature with your username and the time you posted the comment. I copied this text from Template:Uw-tilde. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 00:56, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Also, if CharInsert is enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets, you get a helpful toolbar at the bottom of the edit window that inserts various characters for you (including signatures). ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Tyrone Madera, I think this thread structure gives the script trouble. Try replying to some other threads? If the problem persists, you'll need to more specifically describe what you're clicking and what you see after you do so. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 13:33, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Rotideypoc41352, Okay, will do. Tyrone Madera (talk) 19:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Rotideypoc41352, Hey, it just worked! Tyrone Madera (talk) 19:50, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty and Ganbaruby: Is there a way to do this withoutout clicking on any buttons at all? Like a setting I can create that puts four tildas at the bottom of any post I create without me having to do anything but write the rest of the post. That way I never have to worry about forgetting to click the button or sign. Tyrone Madera (talk) 01:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Tyrone Madera: If you're replying from mobile, it will automatically sign for you, but I don't recommend editing from mobile at all because a lot of the functionality is lost. If you're ok with a bot (User:SineBot) signing for you when you forget, place {{YesAutosign}} anywhere on your user page. I'm going to intentionally not sign to show you what that looks like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ganbaruby (talk • contribs) 01:15, March 9, 2021 (UTC)

It, uhhhh, doesn't seem to be working. Tyrone Madera (talk) 01:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Tyrone Madera: Yeah, that made me look stupid. Perhaps, just remember to sign? ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:26, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I've substituted the template in. That's what it would've looked like had it worked. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: Sometimes it works. Maybe Tyrone's response came too quickly for Signbot to add the signature? GoingBatty (talk) 01:31, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Is nine minutes too short? I've never intentionally not signed before. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby: Not sure - I don't see a time on SineBot's page. GoingBatty (talk) 01:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I've added the AutoSign. Let's see what happens. Tyrone Madera (talk) 05:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Tyrone Madera, the WP:REPLYLINK user script autosigns posts. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 01:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Rotideypoc41352: How do I use it? I followed the instructions and it doesn't seem to work. Tyrone Madera (talk) 02:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

It's having errors. Tyrone Madera (talk) 02:56, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Tyrone Madera, I'm using it right now. Do you have Javascript enabled on your browser? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

TenryuuYes, it's enabled. Tyrone Madera (talk) 04:21, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Citing unpublished source material

I am drafting an article on Gilbert Academy, a former Black prep school in New Orleans. One of my information sources is a two-page flyer I have titled A History of Gilbert Academy, New Orleans, with a bibliography, authored by Jeanne B. Green (Gilbert Academy Class of 1947, now deceased). Since this work is not published or posted on the web anywhere, I don't know how to cite it. Is there a place within Wikipedia to upload documents of worth? Or some other way for me to use some of the info from it? Queen Kitty Cat (talk) 01:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Queen Kitty Cat: Probably not - see WP:RSSELF. GoingBatty (talk) 02:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

One possible way forward, Queen Kitty Cat would be to try to get a local newspaper (preferably but not necessarily with a web edition) to take an interest and publish some or all of the flyer as part of a new article on the history of the academy. Then Wikipedia could use that source. Note that you will need several such WP:SECONDARY sources to pass Wikipedia's guidelines on schools, I wouldn't get too hung up on that one source: if you can't get the article accepted based on other sources, the information from the flyer may not help much anyway. Good luck. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

We want to delete the page that was published about us without our consent

How can we delete the page that was published without the company's consent? We cannot contact the administrator nor the author, the reason why we are stuck with this page with false information. Please help us fix this concern, asking for your quick solution on this. Thank you. 2001:4451:77C:B100:614E:FD61:D0A6:88CD (talk) 02:26, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia, not a vanity site or a directory. Your company's "consent" isn't needed for an article to be published about it here. Any information which can be reliably sourced may be included in the article about the company. If there is proprietary or incorrect information in the article, request the removal or correction of that information using the article's Talk page. Do not edit the article yourself; see WP:COI. General Ization ^Talk 02:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

If you continue to try to blank the article World Balance, you will be blocked from editing. Please see above. General Ization ^Talk 02:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Your ONLY recourse is to open a discussion on the Talk page of the article. There, state that you work for the company, the propose specific changes to the article. 'Specific' means stating desired additions - with references. If proposing content that has references be deleted, then references confirming that the parts to be deleted are in error are required. A non-involved editor will decide to incorporate proposed changes or deny the proposal. David notMD (talk) 07:06, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

By the way, World Balance people, this article is getting 100 views a day (https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?pages=World_Balance&project=en.wikipedia.org), that's a lot of exposure, are you sure you want to get rid of all that. Brunswicknic (talk) 07:15, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Well, a lot of those views could be worried company-people. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

New article

Once the article is draft do I need to do anything else 98.19.3.24 (talk) 03:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! I suggest you see Help:Your first article. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

YFA includes instructions on how to submit a draft. Given your subject, you also need to peruse Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. A reminder that no reliable source references means article failure. David notMD (talk) 07:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Meta-question, kinda

Do you have to be a host to answer a question on the Teahouse? 00the0 (talk) 04:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC) 00the0 (talk) 04:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@00the0: No. Anyone is welcome to answer questions here. RudolfRed (talk) 04:20, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

00the0, if you can answer questions accurately and in a friendly manner, then you are welcome to answer questions here at the Teahouse. But you only have ten edits so far, and on that basis, you are unlikely to have the necessary experience unless you had a previous account. If so, can you please reveal that old account? Optional question. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:51, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Good point, I should probably gain some more Wikipedia experience before answering any questions. :) 00the0 (talk) 06:03, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Usage of Template:Paid by another editor

Hello, is it okay to help another editor disclose their paid status by placing Template:Paid on their UP? Firestar464 (talk) 04:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Firestar464: If the other editor indicated that they want to but don't know how, then sure, help them out. If you only suspect that there's a paid relationship without proof, then no. You may instead ask them to make the declaration with Template:Uw-coi. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 05:42, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Ganbaruby, they have responded confirming their paid relationship. Is it then okay? Firestar464 (talk) 05:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Firestar464: You can put up Template:Connected contributor (paid) on the article talk page. Since editing other people's user pages is frowned upon, just let them know that they should put Template:Paid on their userpage, but don't do it for them. You could also provide an example of the wikimarkup using the code html block like so: {{paid|employer=xyz}} . ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 05:51, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ganbaruby:. For the purpose of asking a user to comply with mandatory paid editing declaration, I recommend the template series starting at {{uw-paid1}} and escalating ({{uw-paid2}}, etc.), as more tailored to the purpose.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:56, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Thankful!

Thankful for this opportunity to be part of such a cool and smart community! Rhinomoves (talk) 07:00, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Same here!! SenatorLEVI 07:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

But Rhinomoves, while smartness is helpful, coolness is of no importance. (You can even wear brown shoes.) One thing that does matter is that an editor who adds material to an article should provide the (reliable, independent, published) sources for this material. -- Hoary (talk) 08:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hang on, are you saying my slicked back hair and aviators are optional? I feel so deceived! Nosebagbear (talk)

Haha, love it! Yes, sources for everything, it's a way of life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhinomoves (talk • contribs) 18:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi! I am Koton Koala! The intelligent koala!

um, hi! I am Koton! ehh, I am new so yeah am nervous

( Koton Koala (talk) 10:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. You may like to peer-review the article on Koala or anthropomorphic as a start but feel free to edit anywhere where you have the competence to do so. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:44, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Koton Koala So far, all article edits you made were vandalism. Continue down that path and next step will be indefinitely blocked. David notMD (talk) 14:14, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Oleksii Zhmerenetskyi — an article about member of Ukrainian Parliament in draft space

Two years ago I have created an article about a Ukrainian politician, member of the Ukrainian Parliament uk:Жмеренецький Олексій Сергійович.

This year I have created Oleksii Zhmerenetskyi article wich was immediately moved to Draft:Oleksii Zhmerenetskyi without leaving a redirect as «Not ready for mainspace».

After that I added a dozen of references to the article, submitted it for review, but the submission declined with the explanation «This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject»

I am not sure if I am able to add anything to the article now. And as far as I understand, the new article on Wikipedia should not be perfect in the very beginning of it's creation. Me or another people will come later and make it better.

Please help me to improve the article so that it can be moved to the mainspace. Perohanych (talk) 10:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jenyire2: reviewer.

This would seem to be a relatively rare case where political notability is clearly satisfied, but general sourced notability is not (clearly). I personally would have sent it through to the Community who could then decide if it warranted retention, but the reviewer is looking for a non-primary source (newspapers, books, etc). I've found a couple of interviews, but struggling to locate anything that is about (as opposed to by) the subject. As a native language speaker, perhaps you can help? Nosebagbear (talk) 11:05, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

There is an article about him at the Parliament's web site: https://itd.rada.gov.ua/mps/info/page/15304 --Perohanych (talk) 11:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Just added three more published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject that show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject [1] Is that enough? --Perohanych (talk) 11:20, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles on a government site are inherently non-secondary and unlikely to be independent, though there certainly is enough depth. The 1st and 2nd sources you added may just be enough. I'm going to allow the draft into Mainspace and have a new page patroller take a look for a second opinion, or any other member of the Community for that matter. Published media, or coverage in a book, or, less likely, an academic review, are the types of sources most likely to prove successful. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:33, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Nosebagbear, I added also some news-related sources. It is worth mentioning that Zhmerenetskyi was ranked 28th in the ranking of TOP-100 promising Ukrainian politicians in 2021. So the article is also promising :) --Perohanych (talk) 11:49, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Is it acceptable to cite biographical material found on family history websites such as Ancestry?

Hello - in a biography, is it acceptable to cite as a source of information documents from Ancestry such as census information, baptism and burial records? Is it acceptable to cite a family tree on Ancestry - these are trees which have been created by a member of the public and which are accessible to anyone with a subscription to Ancestry? Ruthhenrietta (talk) 12:35, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Ancestry.com is a genealogy site that hosts a database of primary source documents including marriage and census records. Some of these sources may be usable under WP:BLPPRIMARY, but secondary sources, where available, are usually preferred. Ancestry.com also hosts user-generated content, which is unreliable. More here [2] Theroadislong (talk) 12:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Ruthhenrietta, Read WP:ANCESTRY.COM βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 13:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Theroadislong Bop34 Thank you - really helpful

Help me I improved my article.

Hi, I have improved my article in an effort to meet Wikipedia's standards and hoped someone can review it for me and tell me if it qualifies. Thanks a lot in advance! Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Grant_Proposal_Video Videos4world (talk) 12:51, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Videos4world Your draft Draft:Grant Proposal Video was rejected, this means it will not be considered further. Theroadislong (talk) 13:08, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

It was a how-to guide, and it was rejected (not merely declined) for being a how-to guide. However, it's no longer a how-to guide. Well, that's an improvement. However ... it starts off with the noun phrase A grant proposal videos (singular? plural?), which, it says, utilizes multimedia communication capabilities, whose meaning eludes me. (I think of a video I know pretty well -- Monty Python's Life of Brian -- and ask myself if this utilizes multimedia communication capabilities, and decide that in a way of course it does; it could hardly not do so, and therefore some other meaning must have been intended -- but which meaning, I have no idea.) And there are other confusions. So I think a lot more work needs to be done on this draft (if the subject is promising). -- Hoary (talk) 13:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I have made the improvementsVideos4world (talk) 13:35, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Still "No." Your first three refs are to Doran et al, (2014) who propose that grants for science research include electronic media rather than just print. No mention of whether this change has become accepted protocol. The 4th ref is about crowdfunding requests. There is not enough here to suggest that you can succeed in making an article out of this. David notMD (talk) 14:23, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your feedback. Videos4world (talk) 14:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

what are the benefits of logging in to wikipedia?

{Question}

Do you really need a account to enjoy wikipedia? I'm just wondering if you need it.

\\ }} 65.217.205.66 (talk) 13:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor, and welcome to the Teahouse. No, you don't need an account to use or edit Wikipedia. But WP:Why create an account? should answer your question. --ColinFine (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Status of an article submission (new to WikiPedia and I am not sure that I did everything correctly)

Dear WikiPedia Team,

I hope you are doing well. I have a question regarding an article SpinaliS chair that I published on 1 January 2021 and I am not sure what is happening with it. It was first declined on 14 December 2020, because it was not adequately supported by reliable sources. I added many sources later and re-submitted article for approval on 1 January 2021.

I am new to WikiPedia and I am not sure if I did everything correctly - I only see Review waiting, please be patient. message. Could you please check if article is submitted correctly? I would really appreciate your help.

Below is link of the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:SpinaliS_chair

Thank you.

Kind regards, Luka SPwiki15 (talk) 13:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Due to the large number of drafts submitted for review, it can be days, weeks, or (sadly) months before a review is conducted. Meanwhile, your refs #4 and #7 are to the SpinaliS website, which is not allowed. Either replace the refs with an independent reliable source ref or delete the content. Health claims require that refs be WP:MEDRS. That means a review article of multiple clinical trials, not the opinions of doctors paid by SpinaliS. 14:31, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Kinda afraid to edit now

Well, since I've been subject to some criticism, mostly to top members of Wikipedia, I am slowly turning away from Wikipedia again. Any help on learning to edit? Blue Jay (talk) 15:03, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

• @The great Jay: Being a new editor means you will make a lot of mistakes. That is OK. It also means that other editors ("top members" or not) will point out these mistakes, with a more or less diplomatic tone. Learn from that and keep editing, even if it means making new mistakes. (If you do the same mistakes again and again because you cannot or you do not want to improve, that is another story, of course.)

If you are talking about this, I understand how you might feel like a child caught out doing something bad by the parents, but frankly that is absolutely not a big deal, and for the editor who left the message it was probably just another Tuesday. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

The great Jay, I suggest starting small, like making less controversial edits like spelling and grammar changes. Wikipedia tends to have a steep learning curve, so take your time reading links that other editors are giving you. Many editors who have been here a while have seen this many times, so they tend to do away with the niceties. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Notes

sources

Is it okay to have one source used multiple times. I mean this like I have one reliable website on a topic. It has multiple pages all focusing on different parts of the subject. Is that ok? I do have other sources besides the one site. If you want to check it out at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Antarctica_in_World_War_II. Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 15:46, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Gandalf the Groovy: - yes, it's OK. Your draft looks pretty good to me. You might want to ask for further opinions at WT:MILHIST, where a lot of knowledgable editors hang out. Mjroots (talk) 15:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Gandalf the Groovy: For some guidelines on using a reference multiple times in an article, follow the links at WP:IBID. (Myself, I've used the inline {{rp}} template for specifying page numbers in a ref that's used quite a few times, but many people prefer to use the short-citation style throughout an article.) Deor (talk) 15:19, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Add song cover

Hello! Can anyone here add the artworks to Cher Lloyds singles "M.I.A" and "One Drink Away" it would mean a lot! thank you! FarisLloyd (talk) 15:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@FarisLloyd: Welcome to the Teahouse! It appears you uploaded File:OneDrinkAwayCherLloydCover.jpg and successfully added it to the One Drink Away (Cher Lloyd song) article. M.I.A (Cher Lloyd song) is a redirect, so there's no need for the artwork. I suggest you disclose your relationship with Cher Lloyd's management team on your user page, and submit edit requests on the article talk pages with the {{request edit}} instead of editing the articles directly. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 20:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Is It Me Or Did I Mess Up My User Page

I Cannot even open and close the tabs! Hurricanestudier123 (talk) 15:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Hurricanestudier123. I've done a few things to fix your userpage, some of which is noted in the edit summary of the diff. Note that I closed a table by adding an ending "|}" and fixed a variety of template calls that only started with one curly brace ("{" instead of "{{"). Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Please note, Hurricanestudier123, that a user tagged you page for speedy deletion under CSD U5, which is directed at "misuse of Wikipedia as a webhost". I have declined that nomination, as I did not find your userpage to be a blatant example. Moreover, as I should have noted in the edit summary (mea culpa), I would not characterize you as someone who has made "few or no edits outside of user pages", so the criterion was inapplicable on its face. But I would say that your userpage does go a bit "afield" as I put it in the decline, of WP:UPYES, i.e., as noted at the companion policy section of the user page guideline at WP:UPNO, "[g]enerally, you should avoid substantial content on your user page that is unrelated to Wikipedia." Please keep this in mind. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)

That was me that tagged it. I do think that you are right overall, but the majority of this user's edits were to their userspace. I left a recommendation on their talk page though. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 18:17, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hey Bop34. The CSD are generally strictly construed as to their inapplicability (I say this despite that I am among those who will perform a speedy deletion under IAR, on the infrequent occasions doing so is protective, or avoids pure process for processes' sake). Putting aside whether this was a blatant example or not, I'd just note that the fact that a "majority" of a user's edits are to user pages is not equivalent to having only a "few" edits outside of to user pages – which distinction I think is made conclusive by observing that this user has approximately 100 edits outside of user pages, which simply could not accurately be described as a "few". Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:50, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Fuhghettaboutit, Yeah I agree with you now that it doesn't meet U5, but I still think it seems like a spam page quite a bit, with parts such as the list of Wikipedia ads. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 20:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't disagree. I gave a heads up above, and your talk page post is good.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 20:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Need Suggestions & Help to Improve My Article Draft

Hi All,

I have created a Wiki page on a renowned personality in the pharmaceuticals industry Dr. Saurabh Arora, who has helped in the betterment of the pharmaceuticals industry for the past few years. I have tried my level best to citing reliable sources and now seeking further help from experienced editors to improve my article draft.

Please share your useful thoughts to improve this information further. Here is the page draft for your kind reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dr._Saurabh_Arora

Thanks in advance! Rwadhaawa (talk) 16:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

None of those three references establish his notability. David notMD (talk) 17:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Rwadhaawa, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm sorry, but if that is your level best, then Arora does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Judging from your comments above, it sounds as if your thought processes are "Dr Arora is a wonderful person and has done wonderful things, so he deserves a Wikipedia article". I'm afraid that it doesn't work like that. Wikipedia doesn't care whether a subject is wonderful or not - we have articles on serial killers, murderous dictators, killer diseases, great tragedies, as well as on philanthropists, scientific progress and sublime works of art - and nothing and nobody in the entire universe "deserves" a Wikipedia article because nothing and nobody has a Wikipedia article: Wikipedia has articles about people and things, but these are not for the subject, (or against it), but only about it. Pretty well the only thing Wikipedia cares about in deciding what to have articles on is what has been independently published about the subject, because almost the only thing that can go into an article is what independent published sources have said about the subject. You need to find sources which are not written, edited, based on the words of, or published by, Arora or his company or associates, and contain substantial material about Arora, (not just about his company). Your first source is based on an interview or press release, and so does not contribute to notability. Your second is by Arora, and so does not contribute to notability. Your third source hardly mentions Arora, and quotes from him, so that does not contribute to notability. As I say, if those are the best you can find, then I'm afraid he is not notable in Wikipedia's sense. --ColinFine (talk) 17:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia

Hello my name is Ima Jewels I'm new to Wikipedia how does this app work Ima Jewels (talk) 16:11, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Ima Jewels, Checkout WP:Help βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 17:25, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Ima Jewels, welcome to Wikipedia ! I left you a message with several helpful links to study on your talk page - once again, welcome and happy Editing! CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:46, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

help with citing errors

Hi, I recently added a few paragraphs to a stub article, and I also added various references, There's a reference error that shows up on 3 citings repeatedly even though I changed and corrected them according to the Citing help pages. Did I miss something? please assist me. I edited this page: Michael Kindo G0d0 2019 (talk) 16:30, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

You just need to define each ref once and then re-use it by adding <ref name="whatever"/> whenever it is needed again.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   16:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@G0d0 2019: While Velella responded here, I have yust fixed the red error messages for you. There are still some error messages with regards to param values in the {{cite web}} template, but I think you manage those. Feel free to ask if not. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:44, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

thankyou so much Velella and Victor Schmidt <3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by G0d0 2019 (talk • contribs) 16:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Help with Draft

Hello, I have recently created a draft Draft: Nouveau Shamanic I’m hoping someone could help me With the next steps to turning this into a live article!  Thanks Elvisisalive95 (talk) 17:28, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

You seem to have taken my suggestions from earlier and I've now expanded one of the URL references to include author and work. We like to give full credits where possible. I think you can go ahead and submit this for review now. That will trigger a more experienced editor to consider, and maybe accept, it. To prompt the review add {{subst:Submit}} at the very top. Good luck Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:41, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Michael D. Turnbull Thank you very much, Michael! I’ll keep you updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elvisisalive95 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I have a question.

My Question.

how do you make your own article? i wan't to make one about my school. so can anyone tell me how? thank you! :D Rag8minos (talk) 17:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Rag8minos: It's very hard to write articles, even if the subject is notable. Check out WP:YFA. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:17, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Rag8minos: Also please see Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. GoingBatty (talk) 20:42, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Look at articles about schools in places near you. Those are your models. Using WP:YFA, you can model a draft about your school on what those other articles contain. Don't submit until you have references in place. Oh, and "Publish" at the bottom means Save, not Publish. David notMD (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Google book refs

Hello, just want to confirm the process for shortening Google book ref urls--one can lop off everything after the, for example, PA224 part? As in, starting with the "&lpg=PA224&dq= etc..." part? Hope that's clear! Thank you. Caro7200 (talk) 17:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't know the answer but while you're waiting you might be interested to read Wikipedia:Google Books and Wikipedia.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:06, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Welcome to the Teahouse Caro7200. Using Google books is very versatile and it depends what you want the link to do. For example, today I added on the "Further reading" for Vinervine using the URL https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KBmGUvmCOU8C&q=Vinervine&pg=PA1&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=Vinervine&f=false. That has the effect of highlighting the word "vinervine" in the snippet that Google shows when using the link. Hence readers could confirm that the book might be worth looking at, although my intention was that the book be used for much more than just this specific item. So, I suggest you use whichever version of the URL you find does what is most useful and check it by Previewing and trying out the actual link first before "Publishing". In the case here, truncating everything after "COU8C" would have reached the book, as you implied in your question. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you both, I appreciate it. Caro7200 (talk) 18:36, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Caro7200: I recommend this great tool Wikipedia citation tool for Google Books. It shortens the URL from all parameters except for page number. It also fills in most details about the book for you. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:56, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Caro7200, Finnusertop: Seconding the recommendation above (I have used that tool a lot; a wonderful time saver [though I always tweak its output]), I would add that very recently, Google switched to a new format, but always provides as a link: "Back to classic Google Books". The URLs provided in the new view do not work with the above tool (to my great annoyance), and you must access the classic view.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:22, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Park Chanyeol Page Songwriting Credit Addition: XOXO (Repackage 'Growl') - Lucky

Hi! I just wanted to mention that because I am a new user, I can't edit this page, but it'd be great if someone who can could fix the discrepancy on Chanyeol's songwriting credits. Both he and his fellow EXO member, Baekhyun wrote the lyric for the song 'Lucky' for the album Growl, but it is not listed in the credits. I fixed that for the page for the XOXO album, but this page is protected. It'd be nice if someone could fix this! If not, I'll end up fixing it at some point when I can. Thank you! Berry6104 (talk) 17:56, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Berry6104, You might want to look into edit requests. You can add a certain template to the talk page of the article and other users looking at the article can see it and help you out, as the Teahouse is not the place to do this. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 18:22, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Bop34, thank you for your help!

Where is the best place to ask for formatting help

Where is the best place to ask for other editors to help with formatting for a draft article? If this is the best place, then here is the draft. I am struggling to think of new sections to create and if the current sections should be split or formatted differently. Thanks for help in advance! Elijahandskip (talk) 18:02, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Elijahandskip. I would recommend starting with reading Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section (shortcut: WP:LEAD). The lead section is an overview of the topic, that introduces it, and summarizes what's already in the body, in more detail (essentially, there should be nothing in the lead that isn't in the body). Here, the lead is not functioning as one. I think if you focused on that, the draft's "formatting" would be improved. Seeing an example for a similarly situated topic often helps; maybe take a look at method acting, which you linked in the draft. See how its first two paragraphs function as an overview of what's written later?

By the way, the draft has an essay-like, original research quality to it, with what reads as improper evaluation in Wikipedia's voice, e.g., "...is a wonderful display of how his method transcribes to the screen..." A Wikipedia encyclopedia article could quote someone saying that. It would never convey such an evaluative gloss itself. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:12, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the tips Fuhghettaboutit. I am slightly confused why you said I linked the method acting article to the draft as it isn't. Also, could you maybe leave me a tip here or on my talk page on why it sounds like original research. Every part of it is sourced with a news article and at least to me, it reads similar to how the other articles I started sounded. Granit, most of the stubs I had started were current events that had little information, but it is similar to them in this case as the robbers haven't been caught and there isn't much info on it (Which is why it is a draft article at the moment). So any tips you have is greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the tips! Elijahandskip (talk) 21:34, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

This appears to be about your draft Draft:Piggy Bank Bandit & Back Again Bandit. I don't see how "team" applies, as your first ref states that there were/are three bank robbers, each acting alone, one already arrested. The other refs are about the PBB. Nicknames or no, I do not see how any of this rises to notability. David notMD (talk) 22:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@David notMD:, I just moved the draft to Draft:Piggy Bank Bandit so it is just about the PBB. Also, notability hasn't been fully established yet, hence why it is a draft. Another editor recommend I keep it in draft space until I can firmly say notability is established. Elijahandskip (talk) 22:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Elijahandskip: Jeeze. Okay, so, I opened up the wrong draft. Don't ask me how I did that (certainly having too many tabs open is involved), but it's from a post higher on this page, at #Help with Draft, by Elvisisalive95. Everything I wrote above regards my viewing of that draft, thinking your post was about it. . Maybe I didn't get enough sleep last night?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:25, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah. Lol. When a major current event happens, for example like a big tornado event, and I am the one creating the article that I know will end up being ITN in a day or 2, I have dozens of tabs open to Wikipedia articles, the editing article, and news articles. I know the feeling. Elijahandskip (talk) 22:32, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

User:Fuhghettaboutit 1. You have the best name on Wikipedia, *In Tony Soprano Voice* OHHHH Vinny Bagadonuts. 2. I sincerely appreciate your indirect yet very useful help in this matter! Take it EAS! Elvisisalive95 (talk) 23:26, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Minor Edits

When creating Minor Edits to a page, what exactly falls under the category of a minor edit? King_Coda (talk) 19:15, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@King-Coda-Scratch: This should help Help:Minor edit. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@TimTempleton Thanks! -King_Coda — Preceding unsigned comment added by King-Coda-Scratch (talk • contribs) 19:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help

An IP has been removing a section from Gentoo Linux, without proper reasoning. First, they say it's "too narrow, nothing to do with the distro itself". Then, after being reverted by DoebLoggs, they remove it again with the same edit summary, but adding "genkernel has never been the main feature, so nothing to do on the top of the page". I told them they were trying to edit war, unsure if that was the right move. Next, "no historical value for the distro itself", I asked them why it has none, and got no response. Another revert by different IP but same guy, got reverted by JPxG, and the IP reverted again, saying that genkernel has it's own article, but I'm sure a redirect doesn't count. Neither of us happened to break WP:3RR. CanadianOtaku ^{Talk Page} 20:57, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Answering questions

Is anyone allowed to answer peoples questions in the Teahouse if they know or does it having to be certified users? Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 21:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Anyone is allowed to, unless they're blocked of course. CanadianOtaku ^{Talk Page} 21:07, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Gandalf the Groovy:(edit conflict) No, you don't need to be certified in some way, you don't even need to be a registered user, though, you should have a greater amount of experience on how things go here. For example, it will not help you when somebody aks about corp notability If you don't know how the rules are for that. Victor Schmidt (talk) 21:08, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Anyone is allowed to but it is best only to do so if you feel confident that you have a very strong answer with no incorrect information (though we all make mistakes!), as someone else will always get around to answering if you don't. You could always look at a question, think of an answer but not post it, and see what somebody else says first before adding to it if you have something new to say. — Bilorv (talk) 23:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

How do I make an article?

~question~

How can I make an article? I would be very grateful if someone told me! :D

found out how to! :D

}} Kevspez (talk) 21:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

You can make an article by creating a draft by going here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Drafts#Creating_and_editing_drafts. Type in the name of your draft and get started on editing! Here is a helpful link, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Your_first_article. Make sure your topic is notable and has enough reliable sources, online.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources. Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 21:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Kevspez Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Successfully creating a new article is the absolute hardest thing one can do here on Wikipedia. It takes much time, effort, and practice, and many people fail in their first attempts. Often, they become frustrated and get hurt feelings as they are attempting something that they don't understand and see their work mercilessly edited and deleted by others. I don't want you to have bad feelings, so I would suggest that you first spend time editing existing articles in areas that interest you, to get a feel for how Wikipedia operates and what is expected of article content. If you get some experience under your belt, you will be better equipped to take the bigger step of creating an article. It would be a great idea for you to use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia.

If you still want to attempt to create a new article, you should read Your First Article, and then use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review by another editor who can determine if it can be formally placed in the encyclopedia. It's better to get someone to look at it first, instead of afterwards when it will be treated more harshly. Good luck, either way. 331dot (talk) 21:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Rejected article: "Revenge Partying"

Hi CommanderWaterford! Thanks for your feedback on my submission for "Revenge Partying". I'd like to know if the article has any potential to be published if I work on the draft. It is not dissimilar to the Wikipedia article on "Revenge Bedtime Procrastination". I'd also like to reference this FT article on partying after covid lockdown, which references "revenge spending" in the text: https://www.ft.com/content/548e151d-39ae-4c6d-9241-b36c3de687b0 Thanks! Jofukilla (talk) 21:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

(Pinging CommanderWaterford as I believe the user has arrived here from a message left by this user when declining a draft.) — Bilorv (talk) 22:15, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Bilorv, thanks for the ping although perhaps better ping Ashleyyoursmile as she tagged Draft:Revenge_Partying as a blatant hoax for speedy deletion. CommanderWaterford (talk) 22:18, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I wish it were a hoax, but alas there seem to be no limits to Covid-related stupidity and no it is not a hoax, as Google (or your preferred alternative) shows. I have therefore removed the speedy deletion template. Jofukilla, the draft should not be about the term but instead should be about the phenomenon for which this term is (and probably others are) used. What you've written so far looks like no more than a description of what happened to be at the top of your head before you started reading up on the matter. If you'd like to read up worthwhile descriptions of and commentary on it, and to summarize and cite these, then as I see it you're welcome to augment and improve your draft. -- Hoary (talk) 01:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

It's not obvious to me that this, even after augmentation and other improvement, should be an independent article. It might be better as an addition to one of the many articles that already exist about Covid-19 (perhaps Pandemic fatigue). -- Hoary (talk) 03:40, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hoary, thanks for removing the speedy template. I did a Google search which did not turn up anything which explains the tagging. Ashleyyoursmile! 06:06, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your thoughtful input, Hoary. I’ll admit the writeup was a top of my head kind of situation and my publishing it/putting it up for official review was a result of overenthusiasm + lack of wikipedia know-how (couldn’t find a “save draft” button). I don’t mean to undermine the effort required to create a successful wiki article and I don’t intend to spread hoaxes (thanks for backing me on the legitimacy of covid “revenge [activity]”.) Having read your thoughts, I agree that “Revenge Partying” might exist better as a sub-section of “Pandemic fatigue” page… it’s just that I see independent articles like “Wrap rage” and “Broken escalator phenomenon” and I feel a little bit bitter. I also keep seeing revenge partying memes, which you can’t find via typing in the words on google, and who’s to say memes are less credible sources of contemporary culture than articles are these days? Could I not just start the page and then have other ppl contribute to it with more research? Thanks as always.  Jofukilla (talk) 06:56, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jofukilla, firstly I would like to apologise for tagging your draft as a hoax. I searched up Google which didn't turn up any articles or sources and hence I went ahead and tagged the draft. Regarding the articles you've linked above, if you observe the information has been backed up by reliable, secondary, and independent sources that discuss the topic in-depth. For instance, the "Wrap rage" topic is the main focus of BBC News and similar reliable sources. So once you've gathered such sources which can establish that the topic "Revenge partying" is notable to be included as a standalone article on Wikipedia, you are welcome to submit your draft through Articles for creation and get it published. You can go through WP:FIRST to understand the guidelines. I hope this explains, if you still have any questions please do not hesitate to ask. Ashleyyoursmile! 07:16, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Jofukilla, it is indeed confusing, when in order to save a draft you have to "Publish" it (clicking which doesn't publish the draft as most people would understand "publish"). I'm not saying that your draft is crap -- it's a mere draft, after all -- or that the article Wrap rage is crap (I haven't read it), but a lot of crap certainly exists in Wikipedia, yet it's never a justification for adding to the mountain of crap: see WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. As somebody who's unusually interested in revenge partying, you ought to be able to use (and of course scrupulously cite) interesting stuff from the FT (to which I don't have access) or wherever. What you hope to be promoted from mere draft to article certainly doesn't have to meet the standards for a good article, but it should be worth clicking on and reading: good enough to inspire others to work on it and improve it, perhaps in ways that you can't now even imagine. Incidentally, when I see news stories such as this one about "'It is now time to open Texas 100%,' a maskless Abbott declared to cheers at a crowded restaurant in the city of Lubbock", I wonder if there might be an article on "Denial of COVID-19 reality" or similar, to which material about revenge partying could be added. And if you don't feel up to creating an article (or even a substantial paragraph), there's much else you could do. (My own latest edit is this one: minor, but I think constructive all the same.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:50, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Appearance

After how many days my article will appear on wikipedia? Kazorel (talk) 21:50, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Kazorel Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You edited your user page, which is not article space, and not searchable by outside search engines. That is a place for you to tell about yourself as a Wikipedia user. You may submit drafts using Articles for creation. 331dot (talk) 21:53, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Kazorel Quickly copy all that content you put on your User page to a document on your computer, and then delete it from your User page. You can try again to create a draft by following the instructions at WP:YFA. Drafts are submitted to be reviewed via the Articles for creation mentioned by 331dot. There is a backlog of drafts, so it can be months from submitting a draft to it being reviewed. ALL THAT DOES NOT MATTER YET, because the content you created will not be accepted as an article. Wikipedia requires notability supported by what is written about a person, not by a person. The University of Warsaw article has a list of Professors for whom articles exist. Use those as models for what you want to create. David notMD (talk) 22:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kazorel: I've improved the formatting of the page with wikicode e.g. ==Heading== creates a (main level) heading titled "Heading". Hope this is alright! Let me know if you have any formatting questions on my talk page. Otherwise I agree with what users have said above about how to submit a draft, and what to do before that—see WP:GNG and WP:NACADEMIC for notability guidelines we have on these topics. — Bilorv (talk) 22:42, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy: Now at Draft:Ryszard Zięba. David notMD (talk) 18:31, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Would someone check my first edit

Hi as stated I just made my first edit, I removed a statement that's source was just a headline, which when you read the article is contradictory to the headline

• Was this the right thing to do or should I have amended to reflect the actual article text
• Should I have looked for an edit to revert instead ? I realize now there's an external site to search for these things

Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GB_News

Thanks, CommanderDallas (talk) 22:06, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Good question, CommanderDallas. Funnily enough I was just reading about GB News. We encourage people to be bold and so I'd definitely see your edit as worth making even if somebody were to later undo it (which would give you information about what to do or not to do). I don't like the removal of a source because that's useful information that someone could use to expand the article further. You've noted that Iman is named later but it's better to mention her in prose as well as in the list. Prose is good for going into detail and the list serves as just a summary.

As for the description, I'm not quite sure if you're misreading the headline ("opponent of ostensible 'wokeness'" is the meaning I interpret) or what it is in the article itself that would give the contradiction, but you've asked a good question: always go with the body of a source rather than its headline. I've just described Iman as a 24-year-old journalist (she's probably overdue for a biographical article about her at this point but I haven't checked) but we definitely could include something that i says about her claims that structural racism is "almost totally eradicated" or opposition to identity as the "primary organising principle of society". This is more specific and hence better than "woke opponent". And it's relevant to the topic at hand as she'll be a political commentator in this GB News role. — Bilorv (talk) 22:29, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Forgot to add: you're always fine to change things directly rather than reverting (though reverting someone if you're specifically undoing one recent edit notifies them so they could discuss it further with you). The page history (in this case, [3]) is not quite an "external site"—it's part of Wikipedia and only a click away from the article ("View history"). Also, you can link to a page within Wikipedia with square brackets, so that [[GB News]] produces GB News. — Bilorv (talk) 22:33, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah I think I misinterpreted the headline as stating that Iman was the "woke opponent" to the others on the channel and not that she was an opponent of the woke, I suppose if something like that isn't clear it's better to describe the person in question as you have done instead of stating a headline, I'll bare in mind going forward that cleaning up a misleading statement from a source is better than removing it, but I assume if something is clearly misleading removing it and then handling re-writing after is okay if you're short on time? Thanks for the feedback I really appreciate it, it's all super useful info I'll be sure to bookmark this convo :) — CommanderDallas (talk) 13:12, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Requesting changes for neutrality correction

Hello editors,

I have a conflict of interest with Jorge Hank Rhon and am requesting to add more details to the lead paragraph of his page - Jorge Hank Rhon. The accusations against him are not neutrally placed giving only one side of the story. I have noted that a newly registered editor - Thewintermen - constantly keeps adding the information incorrectly without presenting all facts neutrally and it can be a possible vandalism. The editor is conflating Jorge Hank Rhon with other members of his family.

The last line of the lead paragraph can be changed from: He has been involved in drug trafficking, money laundering, corruption, and has been accused of murder. to: His family was alleged to have been involved in drug trafficking based on a report by the National Drug Intelligence Center, but former Attorney General Janet Reno said the report “was beyond the substantive expertise and area of responsibility of the NDIC.” Rhon was also accused of money laundering, corruption and murder, but the judge threw out the charges in a June 2011 verdict.

Please understand that I am not asking for the removal of that information, I am just asking for the line to written as per WP:NPV which states that 'articles must not take sides, but should explain the sides, fairly and without editorial bias.' Grateful for the consideration. 69.121.153.151 (talk) 22:56, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

References

Hi, your edit should be made at Talk:Jorge Hank Rhon with the code {{edit request}} at the top so a volunteer can assess it properly. If you struggle to do this then let me know at my talk page. Thanks! — Bilorv (talk) 23:06, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I think that the references you have given here will be sufficient to back up the changes you suggest, IP user. As Bilory says, you need to copy-paste your exact text from here into Talk:Jorge Hank Rhon, with the code {{edit request}} at the very top. There is a backlog of such requests across Wikipedia (over 200 today) but it won't be ignored. I would make the changes to the article myself but am not sufficiently familiar with policies on biographies of living people to do so. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:01, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice, I have done the needful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.153.151 (talk) 23:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Biased Page?

Well, the Gamergate page is so biased that even Jimbo Wales mocked it, it is clearly from biased sources and gamer gate is not a negative thing like Wikipedia makes it out to be. Could you explain why this is the case.--2600:1004:B098:98FB:81FE:F476:B973:EC8D (talk) 22:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Concerns about any article should be discussed on its article talk page. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources state; any bias in sources will be reflected in Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not claim to be free of bias. The sources are presented to readers so they can evaluate and judge them for themselves as to bias. 331dot (talk) 23:03, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

You can make a specific suggestion of a concrete change at Talk:Gamergate controversy but you'll want to present high-quality reliable sources in support of your change and read the FAQ first. The page reads as it does due to the collaboration of hundreds of volunteers like you and me. — Bilorv (talk) 23:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Ferdinand Feldhofer

Need a bit of help, am new! Hey guys, just a quick question I hope you could help me, after having troubles fixing the size of the image (which I managed now) I would need help on the English Wikipedia page of "Ferdinand Feldhofer", the picture is there and its the right size but I need help removing the bit of text below the picture (I used it from wikimedia commons) could anyone help me?

Sincerely, a new wikipedia user Atomanlage (talk) 23:21, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@Atomanlage: It's been fixed by Njd-de now. When putting an image in the infobox, you just put the file's name, like File:xyz. Leave all the brackets and other syntax out. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 00:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Re: Noteriety

Hey so I wrote an article about a musician (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hero_(music_producer) ) who's been signed to a well known record label Fools Gold Records and whose music has also been featured on the notable tv show Insecure. The song (Hero - The Juice) was even listed in the show's official soundtrack on apple music https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-juice/1272363103?i=1272363120 . I have multiple sources to prove the television show placement and the artist is still listed on the fool's gold website so wouldn't these sources be enough to prove that they are notable by satisfying musician bio criteria 5 and 10? Those seem like pretty concrete sources but I could be missing something so I would appreciate any feedback on this, thank you :). IronThumb3000 (talk) 23:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

@IronThumb3000: I took a brief look at it, and I think your draft is pretty close to be published. I'm not an AfC reviewer though, so I suggest reaching out to AngusWOOF and ask what specifically they would like to se improved. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 00:25, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi IronThumb3000. Just for reference, Wikipedia:Notability is the term used when assessing whether a stand-alone article can be written about a subject. Most experienced editors will probably get what you mean, but it's probably best to use "notability" when participating in any discussion about this kind of thing just to avoid any confusion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

An insert song for an episode isn't enough to satisfy MUSICBIO #10. It would have to be something major like the series' main theme song. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 04:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Time zone front page

What time zone does the date change "On this day" on the front page? Hgh1985 (talk) 00:04, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Hgh1985: Wikipedia works on Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), so the Main Page updates every new day in UTC. Also, if you go to any page's "View history" tab, all the times you see there are in UTC as well. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 00:15, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Hgh1985: You can set your time zone at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering to affect times displayed in page histories and many other places but it does not affect Main Page, article content or signatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:38, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Administerinf

How do you administer by yourself? Gkalsi23546789 (talk) 04:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Gkalsi23546789: By carefully following the guidance at Wikipedia:Administrators and related pages. GoingBatty (talk) 04:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Gkalsi23546789. If you're asking how an editor becomes a Wikipedia administrator, you'll find that information on page mentioned above by GoingBatty. If, however, you want to know how you can do the things that an administrator can do, then whether you can depends on what you actually want to do. Regular editors can do most of the things that an administrator can, but some things require special user rights that need to be requested. You can find out more about these "special user rights" at Wikipedia:User access levels. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:11, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons

It is not letting me add a file in Wikimedia Commons. What should I do? Gkalsi23546789 (talk) 04:27, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Gkalsi23546789: Welcome to the Teahouse! I suggest you post on the Commons help desk with a more detailed description of the issue you're experiencing. There's more information at commons:User talk:Gkalsi23546789. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 04:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Gkalsi23546789. It's not clear what you're asking. Are you having problems adding a file found on Wikipedia Commons to a Wikipedia page or are you having problems uploading a file to Commons? If it's the former, please provide the name of the file you want to add and also the name of the Wikipedia page you want to add it to. If it's the latter, you should (as suggested by GoingBatty above) seek assistance at c:Commons:Help desk. Even though Wikipdia and Commons are sister projects, they are separate projects with their own policies and guidelines as well as their own community of editors; so. problems with Commons generally need to be resolved on Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:03, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Help with References

I need to fix references 3, 4 cited at the end in the wiki article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rios-Caledonia_Adobe . The 'brochure' does not exist anymore and I need to instead link to the official website which has a self guided tour published in one of the pages of the website https://www.historic-rios-caledonia.org/museum-highlights.

Please help update. Thanks Schalkv (talk) 05:59, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Schalkv, welcome to the Teahouse! It appears that editor SenatorLEVI has taken care of it. I checked the article and the source, it seems to work fine now. If you still have any questions or need any help, please feel free to ask here. Happy editing! Ashleyyoursmile! 07:26, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

How do I return back the original Wikipedia

I regret trying the new-style version of Wikipedia, as my search engines seem somewhat confused by the changeover. How do I totally and utterly leave the new-style product and return to the tried and tested version?

Xenophon Philosopher (talk) 08:14, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Xenophon Philosopher: in Special:Preferences -> "Appearence" -> "Skin preferences" select the option "Use legacy vector". Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:57, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

If that doesn't help then please clarify what you mean by new-style version of Wikipedia and what it has to do with search engines. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

What does a client-side preference have to do with how search engines interact with Wikipedia? —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 03:35, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Clean up bare URLs

The following pages also have bare URL, Please assist in checking and repairing them, I'm not going to tag it template one by one:

Thanks.--Alcremie (talk) 09:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I have linked the pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:26, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Alcremie, PrimeHunter, and all of them seem to be having one source which is a dead link ..... CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:42, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Alcremie and PrimeHunter:  Done. I copied the source, correctly formatted, into 44 articles in place of the bare URL. —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 02:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Naddruf: It's used as an inline reference so it should support the article content. Your archive link doesn't do that in any of the cases I examined. For example, in [4] it's a reference for "At this latitude the sun is visible for 13 hours, 9 minutes during the summer solstice and 11 hours, 7 minutes during the winter solstice". The page [5] doesn't give any times but has boxes where you can enter coordinates. If I enter 17 degrees north or anything else then I get no result. The original dead link presumably gave the stated times when coordinates were entered. Your access-date=2021-03-10 falsely indicates that it worked on that date. Or do you have a method to get the times from the archive? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:38, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: I think you're right, the php page, if you enter a latitude, leads to a GET request which is not archived, so it no longer works. I'm not sure what one should do in this case; maybe a new reference is needed. —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 02:45, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

enquiry

How to become a recent changes patroller and vandalism fighter? Wikiaddictcommo (talk) 10:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Wikiaddictcommo: thank you for your interest. A good intro guide is at Wikipedia:Recent changes patrol - you can do both of those by going to the Recent Changes list (link on left of the screen) and just looking at edits and undoing vandalism. It is worth spending a few minutes on the page I linked that notes what is and isn't vandalism. When you've had some experience (and I'd also suggest making some content edits, just to get an idea of the other side of the fence - Help:Introduction for good tutorial) then you could apply to the Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit/Academy which will give a detailed grounding and work you towards using more powerful tools to combat vandalism and similar more effectively. Nosebagbear (talk) 11:36, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

New article creation guide

I want a guide on how should I go on and publish my new article on the wikipedia without getting it banned so can any one help me out with this

P.s I have my article in place if you check it out before I publish it it would be great so that it would not get banned Jay dhandhukiya (talk) 10:49, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Jay dhandhukiya: you won't get banned, I'm 99% sure, most is just a reminder. I recommend looking at article wizard before and also look at what qualifies for deletion so cheers ~ Lovin'Politics (talk) 11:22, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

As far as I can see, the only edit your account has made has been here to the Teahouse, Jay dhandhukiya. Loads of advice has now been added to your Talk Page. Spend time to read some of that and you shouldn't go far wrong. Good luck. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Edit for tone

is it possible to ask for help for editing for tone? I have a wikipedia page that I need to submit for review but the draft needs an edit for tone Cheynoel (talk) 11:39, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Cheynoe. No problem in asking but it would help us to know which draft you mean, as you seem to have been working on several recently. Also, the main hurdle in getting any article accepted will be to show the WP:NOTABILITY of the subject. People can work to improve the tone later, if that aspect seems poor to the reviewer.Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:42, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Michael D. Turnbull, they are referring to Draft:Houndstooth Records which currently is in AfC Review Process. CommanderWaterford (talk) 13:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Super straight (sexual orientation) - how to make the corrections to the draft?

This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Super_straight_(sexual_orientation)

Good day. I tried to make an article but it was sent back to make it better before submission

How can it be improved? Thank you for help — Preceding unsigned comment added by UkraineQueer (talk • contribs) 13:40, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

UkraineQueer, hello, friend. I responded to your question at the Help Desk. Make sure you only ask your question in one place to avoid confusion. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 14:12, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Theatro Technis

 Courtesy link: Draft:Theatro Technis

to : Thank you for the Invitation. I have prepared a Draft: Theatro Technis . User:BereanHunter has imposed an administrators block on Drafts on Theatro Technis but he seems to be missing from Wikipedia practice since 1st October 2020, so I cannot ask him to review my draft. So I am asking you to help me ? Thank you {Panayotmarkou (talk) 13:59, 10 March 2021 (UTC)}

Extended content

Draft:Theatro Technis Theatro Technis is an independent multi-cultural arts centre with a 120 -seat theatre located in the heart of London Borough of Camden. It contributes in general and specific ways to the cultural and social life of the people of London . General contribution to the cultural diversity of London: providing in-house productions of ancient Greek Drama in the English language and for which it is noted, 1) a performance space for innovative interpretations of classics , e.g. Shakespeare, Chekov , and Dostoyevski by next generation directors 2) a venue for foreign language productions, 3) a platform for political theatre , most notably “The Madness of George Dubya” ` which had been rejected by almost all of London venues. Michael Billington of the Guardian remarked “The most cheering aspect of the year was the varied and rapid response to the Iraq crisis. At Theatro Technis, Justin Butcher wrote and directed The Madness of George Dubya - ignored by most critics until it transferred to the West End “ Specific and Historical contribution: 1) to serve the “educational and cultural needs” of the Cypriot Greek and Greek communities of the UK, and which was the original raison d`etre by its founder George Eugeniou , and a group of fellow actors and creatives: staging dramas that explored the socio-economic , immigration and refugee concerns that impact this community , revealing the trauma of the Turkish invasion of Cyprus , the ethnic cleansing that ensued and its tragic aftermath. 2) organizing the annual community festival of “Cyprus Week”. 3) hosting the London Greek Film Festival in conjunction with ERT TV and the Thessaloniki Film Festival, History Originally founded in 1957 by George Eugeniou and a group of actors five decades ago Theatro Technis first started its work in an old unused warehouse located in the backyard of King`s Cross . Then after a monumental struggle and continued threats to its existence it finally found its permanent home in an old Church building where it has flourished into a centre of multi-faceted and multi-cultural activities . Selection of Productions Sophocles Oedipus King Prometheus Bound Medea (play) Lysistrata [The Persians]] Antigone King Lear Midsummer`s Night Dream Macbeth The Three Sisters The Idiot “Le Petit Prince” in French “La Casa de Bernad a Alba “ in Spanish “Kato Apo tis Keratsies” by Stavros Lilitos in Greek Griselda Gambaro `s 'Siamese Twins' “The Madness of George Dubya” by Justin Butcher Dowry with Two White Doves Afrodite Unbound The National Engagement' A Revolutionary Nicknamed Roosevelt The Best of Tofias Contract Hands Tied, Tied Hand Gringland Searching for the Lemons The Fire Burns where it Falls ,and Two Lives” “Cyprus Trilogy “The Hole” Educational schemes “The Tasty Plays” by Scene & Heard, `a unique mentoring project that sees local kids join forces with volunteer actors, writers and directors to create theatre.` Theatro Technis also offers one year free internships in theatre practice for aspiring young directors ,supervised by George Eugeniou . The Humanitarian Arm of Theatro Technis Theatro Technis runs a citizens advisory service for the local Greek Cypriot community as well as the Camden community References

@Panayotmarkou: Welcome to the Teahouse! I suggest you post at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for reduction in protection level. Don't post your whole draft there - you can ask them to view your draft on your user page or user talk page. GoingBatty (talk) 14:21, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Inserting text not for display

How do I add a note in the text to other editors that clarifies or draws attention a point in the accompanying text? I have seen it some articles but cannot remember what symbols to use in marking out the message. Thanks. 94.119.64.1 (talk) 14:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, friend! I believe you're talking about leaving a comment in the code, which can be done like this: <!-- COMMENT --> The comment will be invisible to viewers but can be seen by anyone trying to edit in the source editor. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 14:16, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

EDG 543, People using the visual editor can also see it. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 14:22, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Bop34, oh, I forgot! Thank you for the reminder. I don't have much experience in the visual editor. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 14:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Sunil Shukre

Respected Wikipedia team, Please guide me regarding the following draft.

Draft:Sunil Shukre

Please let me know if this draft is correct or which needs some changes.

Thank you in advance ! Cancersign (talk) 14:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Cancersign: Welcome to the Teahouse! I added some comments about incline citations when I declined Draft:Sunil Shukre. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 15:12, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Removing "Your edit was saved" dialogue

Your edit was saved  X"

pops up each time I save an edit. Just a minor nit, but I'd like to remove this feature. Anyone know if there's a way to do so? Maybe something added to my to my common.js? Thanks in advance for even looking. If no one knows, I suppose I'll go to VPT.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:31, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Ah, found it. Nevermind.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

About The Draft:Rishikesh Shukre

Please let me know if this draft is correct or it needs some changes. And how to make it better? Please guide me on this question.

Thank you! Cancersign (talk) 15:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Cancersign, in my opinion I don't see this article being accepted. I'd ask you to go through WP:N and WP:RS to structure and article as well as WP:YFA. In this case you should go through WP:BLP to know what to do here. Additionally if the person here isn't covered by enough WP:RSes an article about them shouldn't exist, go through WP:NOT. You shouldn't be discouraged from editing due to this since it is only your first article. Cheers. SenatorLEVI 16:02, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

None of the refs are about him. His name being listed as an actor in these films does not count. Unless there is published content about Shukre, notability is not established. David notMD (talk) 17:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Advice on potential CoI and how handle these constructively

Hi! I am trying to deal constructively with a potential CoI that happened in this edit, but my comments and actions just appear hostile to the contributor. Can someone experienced with CoIs have a look and give some feedback? – egaudrain (talk) 16:09, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Egaudrain, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard is dealing with those kind of issues. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:57, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! – egaudrain (talk) 21:01, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello

 Edd Acevedo (talk) 16:10, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello,Do you have a question about anything Wikipedia related? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gandalf the Groovy (talk • contribs) 16:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Help regarding an article

Hello! I have been trying to write about a company for a while now. I think it is a very valuable company that can help many people, mostly small business owner. The information that I am including in the article is not promoting the company, I am simply just explaining what the company does. I read the Wikipedia page for Microsoft and tried to copy the style that article was written in order to get my article approved. But again, I was declined. I really do not understand why I am getting declined for the article US Federal Contractor Registration. I can see the reason stated why I am getting declined but I dont understand how they see it as me promoting the company. Like mentioned above, I tried to write it just as microsoft's article was written. So why did Microsoft get approved? Please help me understand what part of the article is getting declined, HOW am i promoting the company? Gazellestpete (talk) 17:16, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:US Federal Contractor Registration was deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, you cannot copy and paste content like that. Theroadislong (talk) 17:24, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Gazellestpete, the Microsoft article is based largely on what independent, reliable sources have said about the company, which is what is expected of all Wikipedia articles. Your draft appears to have been based on USFCR's own account of itself, and cited no sources at all. It read like an advert, with sentences such as "USFCR is the largest and most trusted System for Award Management (SAM) registration and renewal services company" and "If you answer yes to any of the questions below, the Vendor Management Program can benefit your business"; that's nothing like the Microsoft article. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:42, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Gazellestpete. I'm afraid that, like many people, you have some misunderstandings about what Wikipedia. Wikipedia does not care whether it is "a valuable company that can help many people": it could be that, or a cynical scam, or anything in between: we have articles on companies everywhere on that spectrum. What Wikipedia cares about is whether there has been enough material published about it completely and utterly independent of it, because that is pretty well the only kind of information which can go into an article. When you say you copied the style of the article Microsoft, that is like saying "I wanted to build a house, so I copied the design of that one there": that's fine, as long as you also surveyed the ground to make sure that it wass fit to build on; otherwise your house will fall down. The difference between the Microsoft article and the thousands and thousands of deleted articles and rejected drafts about companies is not in the way they were written, but in the fact that the writers did not build them on solid ground, in the form of choosing a notable company (in Wikipedia's special sense) to write about. The layout and style of an article is important, of course, but irrelevant if the subject is not notable.

As for "written like an advertisement": I can't see the deleted draft, as I am not an admin. But usually this means that the draft contains what the subject says or wants to say about it: that will inevitably make it promotional. Wikipedia, as I said above, is only interested in what people who have no connection at all with the subject have chosen to publish about it. --ColinFine (talk) 17:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@ColinFine: (You can get a good idea of its content, since it was a copyright violation of here, and about as faithful an infringement as we get; unmodified, word-for-word copying and pasting of the entirety, formatted to make it look as much as possible like the original.)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:15, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Is there any reasons for a wikipedia article to become a protected page?

So, Is there any reasons for a wikipedia article to become a protected page? I know how it becomes a good article or featured, but I would like to know how it becomes protected. Give me at least 3 reasons. Thank you ! Joshua's Number9 (talk) 18:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Joshua's Number9. Three common reasons for protection are persistent vandalism, edit warring, or repeated attempts to create the same inappropriate article. Please read Wikipedia:Protection policy for all the details. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:48, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Joshua's Number9, if you would like to request that an article receive some protection, you can do so here. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 18:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Ok thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshua's Number9 (talk • contribs) 19:07, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Cited for COI but trying to correct false information about something I was directly involved in.

I had updated information that had been falsely written. Someone reported me stating I had a conflict of interest. (I apologize for being new to making any changes) I have direct knowledge of this subject and only 3 people on earth know the true facts. So how would someone correct false stories and descriptions on Wikipedia? I never have really used or looked at Wikipedia before but thought it was factual information. But maybe it is not? I really appreciate any direction to help correct the information. I do understand that wiki is huge and this is just one company but it is an important company. thank you ShubhoBanerjee1957 (talk) 18:49, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

ShubhoBanerjee1957, a conflict of interest occurs when you as an editor is closely related to the topic (e.g. you work for a company the article's about, you are brothers with the subject of the article, you are paid to edit the article, etc.) When this happens, you must disclose that you have a conflict of interest. The reason your edits were removed is that you didn't include reliable references to prove what you said. If only three people on earth know the true facts as you claim, then there is no way for us to know if you are telling the truth or completely making it up. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 18:56, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, ShubhoBanerjee1957. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that summarizes what is published in reliable sources. We do not accept unpublished inside information known to only three people, because it cannot be verified. Please read Verifiability which is a core content policy. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Understood. Saying only 3 people know the truth probably sounds obnoxious and not meant to be. I apologize for that. I was trying to show that most of the stories or versions I have seen, seem to be from people on the outside? and wondering where they got this information that would be considered true? Just curious .. but if (this is just an example so I can understand how this works) but if I had a wiki page and someone said something about me that wasn't true or out in left field .. it sounds like I could not correct that? how would that be corrected? I would know me better than anyone else? thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShubhoBanerjee1957 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia writes from an academic point of view, which is inherently from the perspective of a neutral observer. We use secondary sources, which are inherently "from the outside". We generally do not use primary sources (sources made by people who were directly involved in an event) as they often have a biased view of events, and lack context. We say what is said in reliable sources. If something doesn't have a reliable source, it can usually be removed. If something is from a reliable source, it can usually be added. AdmiralEek (talk) 19:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

ShubhoBanerjee1957, the subjects of Wikipedia biographies are welcome to suggest corrections and improvements on the article talk page, using the edit request process, but they will be expected to furnish reliable sources, and in some cases, to verify their identity. Let's say that a biography says a person was born in Boston because some newspaper says so. And someone claiming to be that person says on the talk page that they were actually born in Austin, and the reporter misunderstood. Well, if there are three other articles that say Austin, the correction will be made promptly. If the matter is in dispute, removing the birth city may be the best outcome. Each case is different. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:08, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you all for your education. I will keep learning here how to correct facts inline with Wikipedia rules.

Talk Page Archives

I'm trying to review archived talk page entries on the Rocky Flats Plant article. I've used the search tool to find such archives for other topics (Medicaid, Elvis Presley just for examples) but it doesn't seem to work for Rocky Flats. Here's what I'm searching on: prefix:Talk:Rocky Flats Plant

Help! Howbeit (talk) 19:17, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Howbeit, hello, friend! There are no archived talk page entries for Rocky Flats Plant. There hasn't been much discussion, so everything that has been typed is still right there on the article. Hope that helps. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 19:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Academics

Reliable secondary resources for notability of academics

• Can we use official website of a leading university in a country as a reliable secondary source to establish the notability of its faculty?
• Is director of a particular department in a University considered as - named chair appointment or distinguished professor as cited Wikipedia:Notability (academics)? Wisdomwiki 40 (talk) 19:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

On your second question, Wisdomwiki 40, a named chair (and a distinguished professorship) is different to being a head of department. A head of department might not even be a full professor in some cases. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Cordless Larry appreciate your care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisdomwiki 40 (talk • contribs) 05:40, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Question about article review

Hello, I tried to create an english language page of a swedish one. It has been rejected two times.

My draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Malm%C3%B6_Amateur_Forum

Swedish page: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malm%C3%B6_Amat%C3%B6rteaterForum

Compare this to this page that has no primary sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Union_for_Performing_Arts_and_Film

There are no independent sources that I know of, besides maybe news in Swedish. Would this make the article accepted? I only intended to provide an english language article (compare it to the swedish language one). Trommelnindernacht (talk) 20:12, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Trommelnindernacht, It looks like it was declined twice for notability. You have to find reliable, independent, sources about the topic. Try reading WP:GNG for more. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 20:30, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

And as for Swedish Union for Performing Arts and Film, Trommelnindernacht, if we took inadequate articles as models, we would have a race to the bottom: see Other stuff exists. Ideally, somebody will either find the necessary secondary references, or nominate that article for deletion; but Wikipedia is a volunteer project, and people work on what they want to. Whoever wrote that article has (as many new editors try to do now) done the easy bit - writing the article - and ignored the difficult and much more important bit of finding the sources. So for anybody to regularise things is likely to take more effort than went in to writing the article in the first place. That is why an article like this would probably not get past review/new pages patrol today. --ColinFine (talk) 21:36, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

AN vs ANI

What's the difference between WP:AN and WP:ANI? When should each be used? —Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 21:21, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Naddruf, hello, friend! From what I have read just now, WP:AN is simply for posting "information and issues of interest to administrators" while WP:ANI is for "discussion of urgent incidents and chronic, intractable behavioral problems." Inexperienced editors typically shouldn't have any reason to use AN, and should stick to ANI. Hope that helps. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 21:35, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Naddruf: The comparison I use in my guide is that Administrators Noticeboard/Incidents is like the front room for the security office where incidents can be brought to administrator attention, while Administrators Noticeboard is like the back office where the admins sort out admin matters. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:49, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I am an administrator and I agree with the explanations above. I do want to add that non-administrators are free to make comments and assessments at AN, as long as they are in good faith. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:18, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Article Submitted for Speedy Deletion, but it followed an already published format. Why?

Hello All. I created a wiki article that was put up for speedy deletion. Part of the reasoning said that it sounded "soapbox" or "promotional". My issue with that is I followed the format of an article that was already posted, of similar content, with references as well. It was deleted so fast that I wasn't even able to retrieve the content for the article (from wiki- luckily I had a backup). My ultimate thought is its because of my proximity to the subject, but I acknowledged that in the beginning of creating the article. Would anyone be able/willing to help me edit this content to make it suitable for the wiki community please? I'm very new to this but I don't want to violate any rules. Mr.orlandojonesjr (talk) 21:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Orlandojonesjr: "Format" has nothing to do with whether or not we accept articles. All articles are a summary of independent reliable sources, written in a neutral tone. I'll leave more specific instructions on your user talk page. Ian.thomson (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@Mr.orlandojonesjr: Also see WP:OTHERSTUFF. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 00:08, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

ian.thomson Thank you for your input! In hindsight, I've realized that I made a very significant flaw with my article submission by not actually citing the list of sources that I have. I look forward to reading more of your input.Mr.orlandojonesjr (talk) 02:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Ganbaruby Thank you very much. I will most certainly check that out for more help. Mr.orlandojonesjr (talk) 02:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Stubs

How many sources are needed to make a stub? And is a stub with good sources likely to be accepted? Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 21:29, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I'd generally assume that any page in articlespace needs at least three sources, though I'd personally let some stubs with clear plans for expansion slide by with two diverse sources if they were exceptionally strong proof that further sourcing would be readily available (for example, a stub citing multipage entries in both an automotive engineering encyclopedia and a theology encyclopedia without WP:SYNTH is probably a topic with room for expansion). Ian.thomson (talk) 21:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Gandalf the Groovy, there is no magic number of sources. Typically you just need multiple reliable independent sources, as many as necessary to establish notability. A stub is no exception. To quote WP:STUB, "A stub should contain enough information for other editors to expand upon it. The key is to provide adequate context." If you can do that, then the stub is likely to be accepted. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 21:43, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

What did I get wrong?

Hi guys,

I created my first ever Wikipedia article (I have only been editing on here since I opened an account). Well, a few seconds after my article going live, BOOM! A speedy deletion flag pops up! Some of you here are very experienced in this. Kindly check it out and advise me on what I could have done wrong so that I don't repeat. Thank you. (FYI, I contested the Speedy deletion)

LINK TO ARTICLE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Wabwire Jkb2017 (talk) 21:37, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

(Thank you for your feedback. Guidance noted and appreciated.)

Hello Jkb2017, an editor has added a speedy deletion tag to the page because they believed it was unambiguous promotion (see the criteria it has been tagged under (G11)). Articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and some parts of the article need rephrasing to comply with this. The current contest to the speedy deletion does not appear valid since it does not address concerns about promotion - I would suggest working to improve the article as soon as possible. New editors are encouraged to submit drafts via WP:AFC instead of moving pages directly to mainspace, as it can be hard to understand the various policies we have. Thanks, Pahunkat (talk) 21:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Jkb2017! As Panhunkat kindly mentioned, in the future, since you are a fairly new editor, I would recommend creating a draft, as this would allow you to submit it for review so that a more experienced editor can give it a looksy and give you any necessary feedback with less chance of deletion while you are still working on it. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 21:51, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

All content needs to be verified by citations. The great majority of this article is not referenced. And the great majority of the details have nothing to do with anything that would make him notable. I shortened part as an example, but of what's left... David notMD (talk) 00:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Also, it is clear that you know huge amounts of unpublished information about Wabwire. What is your connection? David notMD (talk) 01:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

trying to create my first article!

 Five Goldfish Swimming (talk) 23:24, 10 March 2021 (UTC) Hi there I created (or thought i did) a page/article and it hasn't come up? What have i done wrong?

Please help!! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Five Goldfish Swimming (talk • contribs) 23:25, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

You have created User:Five Goldfish Swimming/sandbox. Its content reads like a corporate PR release, not like an article. How are you related to RocketRemit? -- Hoary (talk) 23:45, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Secondly, what you have is an unsubmitted draft. David notMD (talk) 01:08, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I should have pointed that out too. When you think it looks like an article, you can move it to Draft:RocketRemit and add "{{AfC submission/draft}}" at its top. And when you think it's good enough to be an article, you can "submit" it: instructions for doing so will be in the template that you'll have added. For the submission to work, the content will have to be sourced to independent, reliable sources, not to PR and similar material. -- Hoary (talk) 01:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Best approach to requesting consideration for establishing a business page when you have a COI

If you believe that a large company which: a) is referenced in multiple Wikipedia pages; b) has a CEO with his own established page; c) employs thousands of people and has billions in revenue; and d) has been reported on in hundreds of news articles in the last four years ... is deserving of inclusion, what is the best way to encourage consideration without running afoul of Conflict of Interest restrictions? I know you can submit a basic request here (Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and economics/Companies), but are there better ways to approach the issue if willing to take the time to collect and share with relevant editors the necessary reliable, independent, third-party sources that attest to notability, etc? Thank you, and thank you for everything that all of you do to maintain Wikipedia. Brianbiggers (talk) 00:11, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Brianbiggers (copied from response to posting as an IP) In terms of merely suggesting that an article be written, there is no other avenue to do so other than the link you provided(which I fixed to a proper internal link, the whole web address is not necessary). If the company truly meets the Wikipedia definition of a notable company, someone will eventually write about it. Keep in mind that a Wikipedia article about your company is not necessarily a good thing.

If you make the required paid editing declaration, you could submit a draft about your company using Articles for Creation- but to be frank most people in your position fail in their efforts if they do not take the time to learn more about the process and what goes into an article. Usually company representatives get it wrong and become frustrated with attempts to correct them, which are usually incompatible with the goals of someone writing about their own company. My suggestion is that you simply allow your company to be noticed and written about naturally- which is usually an indicator of notability. 331dot (talk) 00:08, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Brianbiggers, and welcome to the Teahouse. I think part of your difficulty is that, like many people, you think that Wikipedia can contain something called a "business page", which is presumably in some way for the benefit of the business, or for the business to tell the world about itself. None of these things is true. Wikipedia has articles about notable subjects, many of them businesses. If at some point we have an article about your company, the article will not belong to your company, will not be controlled by you or your company, will not necessarily contain what you would like it to contain (or, more to the point, may contain material that you definitely do not want it to contain, if such material has been reliably published elsewhere), and should not be based at all on what the company says or wants to say, but solely on what people unconnected with the company have chosen to publish about it. --ColinFine (talk) 11:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I wanna know if its bad to copy Wikipedia articles form Spanish to English Wikipedia?

I wanna know if its bad to copy Wikipedia articles form Spanish to English Wikipedia like NBC on Spanish Wikipedia? ItsJustdancefan (talk) 01:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

ItsJustdancefan, hello, friend! It is A-OK to copy text from one Wikipedia to another. However, you must be careful to give proper credit. You should, for your edit summary, include an interlanguage link to the original article. Where applicable, the {{Translated page}} tag may also be placed on the talk page to supplement copyright attribution. Here is an example of a proper edit summary: Content in this edit is translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at [[:fr:Exact name of French article]]; see its history for attribution. For more information, see WP:TFOLWP. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 01:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

It's A-OK to translate into English the text in Spanish-language Wikipedia, if you do what EDG 543 says and if the material meets the standards for English-language Wikipedia. I'm more used to Japanese-language Wikipedia, many of whose "articles" are little more than series of long and unreferenced chronologies and other lists: I could dutifully translate one of these "articles", observing the copyright requirements, and the result would still be crap. So choose your source article wisely. -- Hoary (talk) 01:32, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Is this article good for simple English Wikipedia?

Is this article good for simple English Wikipedia? https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univision_Communications ItsJustdancefan (talk) 01:48, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@ItsJustdancefan: It would be better to ask that at that Wikipedia: [6]. RudolfRed (talk) 01:50, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

ok — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItsJustdancefan (talk • contribs) 01:51, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Reliablility

Would WWF and HISTORY be good or reliable sources? Blue Jay (talk) 01:49, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't understand your question. Are you talking about some book, or TV program, or database, or something else titled "WWF" or "History"? -- Hoary (talk) 01:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

No, Im talking about the websites WWF and HISTORY. Are they good sources? Blue Jay (talk) 01:55, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I googled for "WWF". Google served up a variety of websites. I therefore gave up and didn't bother with "History". Please provide a link to each of the websites that you have in mind. -- Hoary (talk) 02:23, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

World Wildlife Fund and (https://www.history.com/) are what Im talkin about. Blue Jay (talk) 02:25, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Blue Jay: No, per WP:RSPSOURCES. GoingBatty (talk) 02:40, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

So both are unreliable? Blue Jay (talk) 02:44, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Blue Jay: I don't see a discussion at the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard about the World Wildlife Fund. GoingBatty (talk) 03:06, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

The World Wide Fund for Nature doesn't seem to have figured in discussions about sources and history.com is owned by Sky News, who are a perfectly reputable news organisation. So I think either would be OK as a source. As always, it depends what you want to use them for, The great Jay, so my advice would be to make whatever edit you had in mind and see what others interested in the article you are editing say: that's the usual WP:BRD process. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Adding picture

Can someone help me understand which pictures are allowed to be added to an article? If I take a picture with my phone, I can add it to the Creative Commons area and embed, correct? If it’s a picture somewhere else online (like embedded in an article) it’s not allowed to be used? Can be used with attribution? I just don’t know the rules. Thank you Nweil (talk) 02:05, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Nweil generally, if you take a picture, and it's a picture of something not under copyright (you couldn't take a picture of a recent painting since that still has copyright), then you can upload it and use it. Also, non-free images can be uploaded to Wikipedia provided they comply with the strict Non-free content criteria. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:07, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Nweil The policies are quite complex and can be confusing. If you're not sure about a particular image use in a prticular article, if you drop a note on my talkpage I'll let you know if it's OK or not. Black Kite (talk) 16:43, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Content Box

On pages such as ‘Scottish Young Labour’ I’d like to add a separate section for the Chair and Vice Chair rather than having them both in the same box. How would I do this? Sylperson (talk) 02:45, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Sylperson:  Fixed - although the documentation at Template:Infobox political youth organization needs to be updated. GoingBatty (talk) 03:16, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Does WP:SPOILERS apply for yet-to-air TV show episodes whose existence has not even been acknowledged by the production company if an unauthorized version of the episode exists on Dailymotion? (Hypothetical question since anyways whoever is adding the yet-to-air episodes didn't add reliable sources twice)

I was informed a while back that it is wrong to delete a TV show episode's plot summary simply because the episode is still not available on the show's YouTube channel (which means that its existence has not been explicitly acknowledged by the TV show production company). However, I was wondering about this: I have noticed that the TV show's company was also proactively blocking unauthorized videos of future episodes on YouTube on copyright grounds (presumably leaked just like how many famous movies get leaked on piracy sites before they are actually released), but there are unverified videos of future episodes on Dailymotion uploaded by some random people. So, should the plots be removed because the production company hasn't said that the episode is finalised, or retained because unauthorized versions do exist?

PS - can someone have a look at Q 125 of Archive 1098 in the Teahouse (about attribution to Fandom) (I don't know how to directly insert a link to it)? I asked it and it went unanswered, but on second thoughts I want to know if the copied text can be removed if no one bothers to fix it (and I have almost no idea how to go about fixing it).
 45.251.33.14 (talk) 02:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

PPS - Apparently, Dailymotion has been found guilty of multiple copyright infringements so it may be wrong to cite the unauthorized videos. 45.251.33.14 (talk) 02:56, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

At Wikipedia we depend on reliable sources. When the episode airs, the episode itself is a reliable source. Anything released illegally before it officially airs shouldn't be considered reliable.

Here's a link to Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1098#Follow up to an archived question at WP:HELP DESK, as requested. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:33, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia editors should never use a specific webpage known as or likely to be a copyright violation as a reference, and any such content should be removed on sight. So-called spoilers are perfectly OK if properly referenced to truly reliable sources. A legitimate version of a creative work is an acceptable reference for a plot summary, but not a pirated copy, for many reasons. As for Fandom, it is a website that hosts user generated content, so that content cannot be considered reliable itself, but may well provide clues for finding better sources. Fandom should never be used as a reference for anything except non-self serving statements about itself, such a change in top executives or headquarters location. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:49, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

So am I right in understanding that:

1. If the TV show production company hasn't announced the episode on any reliable websites, then the episode should not be mentioned on Wikipedia? And
2. If no one fixes the attribution issue involving Fandom mentioned in the archived question (and I myself am not in a position to do it myself), then should the copied text be removed after a while (2 or so weeks) or retained with a copyvio tag till anyone fixes it?

45.251.33.14 (talk) 03:59, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

If the show hasn't aired and there are no reliable sources, then the episode title and details should not be included in the Wikipedia article. Someone should respond to the copyvio tag on List of Talking Tom and Friends (TV series) episodes. GoingBatty (talk) 04:11, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

too many primary sources

"this article relies too much on references to primary sources" What is wrong with having to many primary sources on a wiki page? If only containing primary sources, how would adding secondary and/or tertiary sources to an article improve it? example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_Secession_Ordinance 96.19.47.144 (talk) 03:30, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! The primary sources just state something exists. The secondary sources help us determine whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, called "notability". See Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 03:36, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Primary sources are often what an organization writes about itself (press releases, etc.). Wikipedia calls for information about the topic from other sources. For the example you mentioned, the first has a one-sentence mention about the authoring of the Ordinance, buried in a National Register description of a house. The second did not connect to a source of the text of the Ordinance, so useless. Surely there are better refs. David notMD (talk) 11:12, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

What is our protection from false and damaging information?

Hi! May we ask what's our protection if people can just write anything in the page that is not true? Not every truth has some source of article or information printed on the internet. We are a private company and not many people know the true story or our brand and our origins. The article has some truths but a lot of false and damaging information. We just want to share to the world what's the truth and nobody knows that well besides us ourselves. How can we share that to the world through Wikipedia? The problem is that Wikipedia is being seen by the public as a source of truth/research for most subjects. Anything written there is perceived as facts. But how can we prevent falsehood and misinformation in the page. And most importantly, how can we share our true story to the world through Wikipedia. Hoping we can work with your team on this aspect. 2001:4451:721:600:AC06:1E9A:45D6:38C3 (talk) 07:34, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Our protection is verification, and the army of volunteer editors who ensure that an incorrect edit does not stay on the page for long. Britmax (talk) 07:36, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

You don't. We're not interested in your efforts to promote your company or "correct the record"; we're more interested in what third-party sources with competent editorial oversight and no connexion to you have written about you. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Takes a strong man to deny...} 07:38, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a source of truth and does not claim to be, so spread the word. Wikipedia is a source for things that can be verified. Wikipedia, however, is not a place for businesses to tell the world about themselves, you should do that on your company website and social media accounts(where you can also encourage people interested in your company to see those places for what you deem correct information). If there is incorrect information in the article about your company, we want to know what it is, but please understand that Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state. If those sources are summarized accurately, but give what you say is incorrect information, you will need to take that up with the sources of the information, or offer independent sources with the correct information. We aren't interested in what companies say about themselves. 331dot (talk) 09:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Your request at Talk:World Balance, with proposed reference, is the proper method of proposing corrections to an existing article when a COI exists. Advice you got there is to break the massive amount of information into several sections, so that non-involved editors can evaluate each request separately. David notMD (talk) 11:27, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I've made some edits to World Balance to improve neutrality and remove unreferenced gossipy content. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:07, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Live article

 196.191.128.27 (talk) 08:37, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Why is my article not live?

I have moved my article from draftspace to mainspace but it is still not live.

Castling D (talk) 08:45, 11 March 2021 (UTC)Castling D Castling D (talk) 08:45, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Castling D If your article is in mainspace, it is formally part of the encyclopedia and "live". If you are referring to search engines, it takes time for them to index new articles. 331dot (talk) 09:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Your article exists as Kwadjo Asante. Before it can be found via a search at Google or other search engine, it needs to be seen and approved by New Pages Patrol, or if not acted on by NPP, then at 90 days. David notMD (talk) 11:32, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

The article in question is Odeneho Oppong Prince. Can you check that out and comment for me? The article Kwadjo Asante is okay with how its turned out for me...Thank you... Castling D (talk) 16:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)Castling D

How do I start editing

so how can I help with this wiki? BoggieBoggieBoggie (talk) 08:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@BoggieBoggieBoggie: you can edit most pages with the exception of some with really high vandalism rates. just edit anything you want to and make sure you properly cite your sources. leave a message in my talk page if you want some help. also, i think i introduced you here with an edit from hamilton county, so you could do similar edits like those. cheers! Lovin'Politics (talk) 08:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

micro oven can book under furniture and fixtures

 88.201.33.136 (talk) 08:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@88.201.33.136: anything i could help with? Lovin'Politics (talk) 08:55, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

What to do with Category:Dissident Roman Catholic theologians?

I found out this category, and it seems to me that those kind of categories were removed for they were subjective, if I remember correctly. What do you say? Veverve (talk) 08:56, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

About Google books Citation (references)

Can we take Google Books in article (Bibliography) as a reference?(citations)  Cancersign (talk) 10:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Cancersign. A reference to a book consists of bibliographic information about it: author, title, date, publisher, page number if appropriate, etc. If the text is available online (eg at Project Gutenberg, Wikisource or Google books, then it is helpful to the reader to include a link to it, but that is a convenience, not an essential part of the citation. Templates like {{cite book}} are useful for formatting citations. --ColinFine (talk) 11:27, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

How to create page and improve ?

 Abelpurv (talk) 11:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

When you see material in an article that you can improve, click "edit", improve it, provide reliable, independent, published references, preview it, and if you like what you see then "publish" it. After you've done this a few dozen times, consider creating an article. -- Hoary (talk) 12:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Abelpurv, well your first draft Draft:Ente Kadha Paranju contained almost no text at all so it was declined. Please have a look at WP:YFA of help might also Help:Referencing for beginners. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:34, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

New Article about Uli Hoffmeier

Hello, I wrote my first article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rane_Rosen/sandbox/Uli_Hoffmeier and don't know how to publish it so that everybody can see it? Or whether it is regarded as lacking notability - if so, who would decide this? Thanks for your help! Rane Rosen (talk) 12:55, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

You've written it in German, so it wouldn't be acceptable for the English Wikipedia. Perhaps you were looking for the German Wikipedia? David Biddulph (talk) 12:57, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons Images

I working on the WP:PODCASTING Wikiproject and I was going through the categories. I found Category:Podcast logos and thought I would create other categories for files related to the Wikiproject. So I thought I would start with a category for images of podcasters, but when I went to create the category I ran into some problems. I figured I would start with Adam Curry so I went to the image location File:Adam Curry 2016.jpg and realized I can't edit the file on Wikipedia because the file is free and available on Wikimedia Commons. Is it possible to create a Wikipedia category that includes files on Wikimedia Commons? If so, how? And if not, why? TipsyElephant (talk) 13:16, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I also ran into the same issue with free podcast cover art. I can't or don't know how to add File:99pi.svg and File:All Songs Considered.jpg to Category:Podcast logos. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

For part of the answer, if you go to the page Adam Curry, you'll see at the bottom part (in the source editor) it already contains {{commons category|Adam Curry}} which means that the cross-wiki category is already there. When viewing the page normally, you can see a bit of text that says "Wikimedia Commons has media related to Adam Curry." Hence it is that type of link you should be adding in this situation Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:28, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

[EC] It seems rather pointless. Most images are hosted at Commons; Commons has its own categories; if you're not satisfied with Commons' categorizing of images of podcasters then you can improve it. (Most logos are neither PD nor copyleft, so are hosted here and categorized here.) -- Hoary (talk) 13:31, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia Search Bar

Hi! I just had a question regarding the search bar in Wikipedia, though it's kind of complicated to ask-- How do you adjust suggestions in the search bar for an article, particularly a new article? As an established example, you can type "John F. Kennedy, John Kennedy, john kennedy, john... john k..., etc and you will eventually get a suggestion for the page for John F. Kennedy. However, for a new article that I started a while back, you have to type the phrase exactly verbatim for it to show up at all in the search bar. Does my question make sense, or do I need to elaborate more? TNstingray (talk) 14:06, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

AFAIK you can't. Its an algorithm that creates these suggestions, a bit like the YouTube algorith - its a giant black box that is fed with your search queries, and will output something. The difference between Wikipedia and Youtube is that Wikipedia's algorithm will always have an exact match on the first result, while youtube may not. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:08, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

TNstingray. You may find Help:Searching informative.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 15:13, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, TNstingray. Please read about redirects. If the topic has alternate names like your Kennedy example, or plausible, frequent misspellings, you can write a very brief snippet of code that will send readers to the right place. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:14, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Rishikesh Shukre

Dear, Wikipedia team Greetings, I have made some good improvements and new changes in the draft of this article. Please tell me how I can make it better. Please guide me on this question thank you! Cancersign (talk) 14:27, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Cancersign, I have gone ahead to outrightly reject the submission. In response to your question, I’d say for now, you can’t make it better, prior taking on relatively tough tasks such as creating biographical articles, you may want to start by reading our general notability criteria for inclusion and retention of articles. Furthermore this collaborative project frowns on creating articles on yourself, friends or family, read both WP:AUTO & WP:COI for a detailed explanation. This collaborative project also doesn’t allow nor permit anyone to use its platform for promotional purposes. Thanks for understanding. Celestina007 (talk) 14:56, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

How do you tell when an article reaches a new class

So I have been working on a few articles that are currently stub classes. How exactly do I get them to the next class, which is start class, and how do I know when they reach it? Elijahandskip (talk) 14:34, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Elijahandskip, so basically to get to the next class you need to write more, this is, both in quantity(well detailed but not overly detailed) and quality(well sourced) that’s literally how you get to the next class, to know how, you may install {{subst:lusc|User:Evad37/rater.js}} to Special:MyPage/common.js which should tell you what current class you article is at. Celestina007 (talk) 15:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Uh, I want to warn to take the suggestions of this (wonderful) tool too serious, very often the suggestion is far away from reality (even the author admits so). I guess the question was how an article gets to the next level if it has already been rated as a stub and now had been expanded. Here you find more info Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedia/Assessment, if you let me know to which articles you refer I will have a look. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:31, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Social Media Links

FYI

 – Header added Maresa63 (talk) 14:56, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Can we write social media links in external links session for a living person's biogy? Wikiaddictcommo (talk) 14:42, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I don't think it's a good idea to add social media links. --Maresa63 (talk) 14:56, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Wikiaddictcommo, hello and welcome, you are allowed to include external links but be careful not to fall afoul of link farming do not add excessive links to the external links section of the article. One link to a social media site should suffice. Celestina007 (talk) 15:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Wikiaddictcommo: Social networking links are usually WP:LINKSTOAVOID. GoingBatty (talk) 20:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Finding articles that need work!

Hi! I am a new Wikipedia Contributor, what is the best way for me to find articles that need review/editing? Mmartinkov (talk) 15:16, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Mmartinkov, There are a few ways you can help find articles to improve. One way is to join a WikiProject. WikiProject's are groups of editors who want to improve a certain part of Wikipedia. For example, I am a member of The Current event WikiProject, which helps work on the Portal:Current events as well as improve articles that are current events (or topics in the news). There are hundreds to thousands of WikiProjects, and each has a unique goal in mind. For example, The WikiProject of Meteorology has to goal to improve all weather related articles on Wikipedia. They "manage" over 10,000 articles and out of those articles, only 1,300 of them are classified as "good/A+" articles, which is the highest levels of quality that an article can go. So if you want to help out more on Wikipedia, feel free to join a WikiProject. If you want to help improve new/small articles, the 99% of the WikiProjects label articles with classes. Stub/start classes are normally fairly small and short articles. It really depends on what type of articles you are looking to improve which will guide you. Hopefully all that helps! Elijahandskip (talk) 15:22, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Mmartinkov, hello, friend! In addition to the WikiProjects kindly mentioned by Elijahandskip, if you go to Wikipedia:Community portal, there are some articles listed under the "Help out" section that need some work and is updated frequently. You can also go to Wikipedia:Task Center for a list of different ways you can help out as well. A couple of simple thing to get you started could be going through random articles to look for obvious things, like grammar, punctuation, spelling, etc. Hope that helps! Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 16:12, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

• @Mmartinkov, hello and welcome, Wikipedia actually has an {{Open task}} which are basically a collection of articles that need working on, such as articles with poor spelling, general grammar issues and whatnot, hence you may go there and find articles you may like to work on and commence, I should however mention that some articles there have problems only older editors can handle as such since you are a new editor, id suggest finding articles with general spelling errors and proceed to correct them accordingly. Celestina007 (talk) 15:39, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you everyone for the feedback! This is fantastic. Mmartinkov (talk) 22:09, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

hot

hot Aghnoo (talk) 15:59, 11 March 2021 (UTC) hot

Do you have a question? SenatorLEVI 16:00, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Aghnoo, this is the hottest article I could find for you, buddy. Enjoy. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 16:10, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Rating new articles I written

I have written about a dozen new articles that have been rated as Start-Class and Low-Importance (which is fine with me because I write about lesser-known subjects that no one else is likely to research and write about). I never rate the articles I create because I feel that is akin to being in school and grading my own homework. Am I correct that I should let others rate my articles? I don't want to cause extra work for others, but neither do I want to overstep my editor authority. Karenthewriter (talk) 16:25, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Karenthewriter. In general, I agree with you. However, if you have written a moderately informative article, and someone rates it as a stub, you should have no hesitation upgrading it to Start yourself. I haven't looked at your work, but you may want to consider submitting the best of it for peer review as a Good article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:22, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Karenthewriter, I just read Charles Stuart Pratt. Well done! One of your references needs work. It displays a bare URL. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:27, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

I fixed the citation with the bare URL, Karenthewriter. You'll find that Wikipedia has an article on everything, even Marking your own homework, which as advised I tend not to do to go above "C" class, although anyone is allowed to rate articles (but not above B without consultation and a formal process). Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:31, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Mike Turnbull (talk). I've been editing since 2007 and still only know how to do the easy stuff. (I've had non-fiction articles published in print magazines so, after decades of research and writing, creating a new article is time-consuming, but not difficult for me.) Karenthewriter (talk) 18:48, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Thiago Alcantara disruptive edits

The page Thiago Alcantara was removed from being a semi protected page, and I have found disrupting edits (I have removed the incorrect and desruptive edits) please could someone make it Semi-protected. Thanks TheWikiEditor1234 (talk) 16:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

TheWikiEditor1234, this looks more like you and Mediocre Legacy have some content dispute. Anyway you can always ask on your own for Page Protection at WP:RPP. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:24, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

memes

pls give me funny articles Aghnoo (talk) 16:27, 11 March 2021 (UTC) lolzz

@Aghnoo: The Teahouse is not a general chat forum, nor a place for memes or lulz – it's a place where you can get help with questions about editing Wikipedia. People tend to be forgiving to brand-new contributors who don't understand this, but this is the third pointless post you make here, and if you continue to do so, your posts will probably be removed without any comment since they serve no function and just clutter the page. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 16:39, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Aghnoo, this is a place for editors to ask for help, but you seem to be here to disrupt. If you want memes, just go to r/memes on Reddit, not to Wikipedia. Thanks, EDG 543 ^{(message me)} 16:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

General Questions

Hi so I'm pretty new to this and honestly way to young and inexperienced to actually add much but right now I'm experimenting with some fun stuff within my sandbox. I just wanted to make sure that everything I'm doing is ok with the site rules and whatnot, if not I'll stop right away! I hope that as I grow my education I'll be able to one day make some actual edits or articles! Thank you so much! Catden123 (talk) 17:15, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello Catden123, I don't see a problem with any of them. SenatorLEVI 17:18, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Even in your own Sandbox, do not paste in any copyright protected content. That would include text and images. David notMD (talk) 17:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Catden123, Aye! feel free to play and mess around in your sandbox, it’s ideal to have a perfect swell time in your early stages here, you could also simultaneously, (in your spare time) take a look at some of our policies and guidelines which are already in your talk page. Celestina007 (talk) 18:13, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Help with adding additional WW1 information

I was doing some research on 17th Engineer Regiment in World War I. I noticed the wiki articles on this regiment are lacking information/possibly mislabeled. I know there are project pages on wiki specifically for certain subjects where I could maybe discuss what I have found but I am not sure which project would be the best place to go. Can someone point me in the right direction? RberlK (talk) 17:51, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

The best Wikiproject to go to is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history. There are some very good editors there who I'm sure will help you out. Enjoy your editing! Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 17:57, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

RberlK, sure - I am pretty sure you will find someone at one of the most active Wikiproject -> WP:MILHIST CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:58, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! --RberlK (talk) 18:27, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Removal of my edit of an episode description.

Kage Fuusha (talk) 18:09, 11 March 2021 (UTC): In Redo The Healer Episode 9, the episode description says, "Keyarga is horrified when Norn, her army, and Blade arrive in Branica."

Keyarga isn't horrified by this. Does a person smile and lick their lips when they're horrified? No, it's a sign that they're happy/excited by the event.

As for his reaction to Blade,, he's severely pissed off. He wants her dead. You have to realize that he's fearless and will do whatever it takes to get his revenge.

I put this info into the description, but it was removed. Why? Kage Fuusha (talk) 18:09, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Kage Fuusha. The IP editor who reverted left this edit summary: "This was reverted in order to keep it at the threshold for plot summaries". Plot summaries should be succinct and concise but not overly detailed. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction and its subsection MOS:PLOT. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC

Kage Fuusha (talk) 20:57, 11 March 2021 (UTC): Thank you for your prompt response.

How do i change the title of an article?

I was wondering how to change an article's title, because some that I've found is incorrect regarding the reference of the said article (the title). This is quite annoying, regarding to spelling, caps, abbreviations, etc. I really need to know how to fix this because of these ridiculous mistakes, mostly place names,the name of a certain person, and so on. An example that i'm trying to fix is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahumyani_trchnafabrika . Also, Google Earth has it with caps, but this article (the link) doesn't. It's supposed to have a capital T in the title, but it's not there. GeoYeeter (talk) 19:10, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

• Go to more next to your view history, click on move, you should be able to move name to a different name. Also, I will try and move the name for you.

Castling D (talk) 19:34, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

• See Help:How to move a page for more information. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:38, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Journal Citations

I need some help with some citations. I want to cite certain pages but am not sure how? any help, heres the link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Antarctica_in_World_War_II. I want to link pages 4 and 5 on citations 9 and 10. Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 19:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Gandalf the Groovy: {{cite journal}} has a |pages= param for this purpose. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:34, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Gandalf the Groovy: Reference #3 in your draft already contains |pages=470–472, so you can see how it displays in your draft. You can do the same thing with the other references where appropriate. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:29, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Need help Submitting a draft of article for review

I have drafted an article on WWI hero Lau Sing Kee here [7] but am hopelessly confused by the instructions about submitting it for review. I really wouldn't mind having someone submit it for me, since another set of instructions for a someone as cyber-stupid as I am might not do much good. Goodtablemanners (talk) 20:03, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@Goodtablemanners: At the top of Draft:Lau Sing Kee is a big gray box. At the bottom right corner of the box is a blue button that states "Submit the draft for review!" When you're ready to submit the draft, just click the button. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 20:36, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: Thanks! I did that before but then didn't see the article listed in Drafted articles awaiting review or whatever it's called, so I assumed I'd done something wrong. Goodtablemanners (talk) 21:39, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Contest a correction done by a fellow wikipedian

How can I contest a revision done upon my work? The person filed for a change under the Wikipedia:NONFREE however the image used has a non-free template rationale. This person unfortunately doesn't have their email available? chefs-kiss(talk) 20:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Chefs-kiss, it looks like the file in question is File:Kenneth Younger 1947.jpg, and you're trying to use it for a table in Shadow Home Secretary.

Unfortunately, my understanding is that WP:NONFREE doesn't all the use of fair use images in tables like that. I forget exactly where I was told that and I can't find the documentation, but someone more into copyright than me might know. The result, though, is that you're probably not going to be able to use it unless policy changes in a way it's unlikely to (since NONFREE has legal ramifications). Non-free use rationales are article-specific, and don't mean that an image can be used non-free anywhere on Wikipedia. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 20:36, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Chefs-kiss, and welcome to the Teahouse. The general answer is to be found in BRD: when another editor reverts your edit, you do not reapply it (that is edit-warring), but open a discussion on the article's talk page, in this case Talk:Shadow Home Secretary. But relevant in this case is that the rationale in File:Kenneth Younger 1947.jpg says "for visual identification of the person in question, at the top of their biographical article" (my emphasis). Every single use of a non-free image needs to be justified, and it is well established that Item 8 ("Contextual significance") of the non-free content criteria rarely allows an image to be used except where it depicts or is associated with the subject of the article. Thus that image is correctly used in Kenneth Younger, but is unlikely to be acceptable in any other article. --ColinFine (talk) 20:45, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

# of reliable sources for an article

How many reliable sources does an article need to remain published on Wikipedia? Culturepedia (talk) 20:38, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Culturepedia, welcome to the Teahouse. It really depends on the subject, but if you're creating a draft, reviewers typically look for three as a starting point. Obviously as the article gets more fleshed out it will need more reliable sources to support contentious statements. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:41, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Culturepedia, if this is about Draft:Durag Festival, I would say that at present you have no relevant sources. The first one may be reliable but is not independent (much of it is the organisers' words); the second may be reliable but does not mention the festival; and the third is not independent and is a passing mention. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. --ColinFine (talk) 20:52, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Request for help at ADM (company)

Hello! David here on behalf of Archer-Daniels-Midland Company, seeking to improve the Wikipedia article by suggesting some updates at Talk:ADM (company). I'm not editing the article myself to comply with conflict-of-interest rules, and I'm hoping an editor or two here might be able to review and update the page for me. I don't think the requests are complicated to review, but they've gone unanswered since November. Might someone be able to help? Thanks in advance! ADM DavidW (talk) 20:56, 11 March 2021 (UTC)