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As mentioned, there is no reliable source either official nor unofficial which divides Salvadorans between two distinct white and mestizo ethnic groups nor gives figures for either. Beyond the entire notion being creepy and racist, it is simply unsourceable. If you want a section on the overall genetic make-up of Salvadorans, I have no issue with that. Otherwise creating false racial internal boundary is simply not possible. --[[User:Huasteca|Huasteca]] ([[User talk:Huasteca|talk]]) 15:53, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
As mentioned, there is no reliable source either official nor unofficial which divides Salvadorans between two distinct white and mestizo ethnic groups nor gives figures for either. Beyond the entire notion being creepy and racist, it is simply unsourceable. If you want a section on the overall genetic make-up of Salvadorans, I have no issue with that. Otherwise creating false racial internal boundary is simply not possible. --[[User:Huasteca|Huasteca]] ([[User talk:Huasteca|talk]]) 15:53, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Huasteca it is obvious that you are targeting Salvadoran pages in specific and not the other Latin American pages with your racial beliefs. The Census in El Salvador has in fact allowed it's citizens to identify themselves with different ethnic groups of El Salvador. It is also obvious that you are bent in erasing African contributions in El Salvador. El Salvador, Mestizos and Whites are not combined as the same people. Mestizo Salvadorans have indigenous ancestry while white Salvadorans do not. Rather than erasing all of the information, you should instead look for better sources [[User:Cobaltous|Cobaltous]] ([[User talk:Cobaltous|talk]]) 19:19, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


==Pardo Salvadorans==
==Pardo Salvadorans==

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what are the sources for this information?

Some of this information seems to be outdated. The poverty rate is way too high and I don't really think it is among the the top 10 poorest. Also there is data collected from 1995. Today the literacy rate is higher and now stands around 84 percent. Not 79 percent as stated from 1995.

The army that established a settlement in 1524 comprised primarily of other indigenous nations so referring to it as solely European isn't entirely correct. It also explains why nowadays the majority of the Salvadorean population isn't European either. The native population and biracials, from the outset or early on, played a major role in the colonization era.

'In the case of these Arab-Salvadorans, although not all the families arrived together, they were the ones that lead the economy in the country.’

Where is the source for the assertive assertion that this particular minority ‘lead the economy’ in the country? While it’s true that several Salvadoreans of Arab ancestry have done quite well in business, there are many more Salvadoreans of other backgrounds with successful businesses as well so it's highly unlikely that that claim is correct

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CIA World Factbook Reliabilty

As discussed a number of times The CIA World Factbook is not used as a Reliable Source on Wikipedia since it does not cite its sources nor can be independently verified. Also there is no ethnic division in Latin America between self-defined Mestizos and Whites. It is pointless to provide estimates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Factbook#Factual — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huasteca (talkcontribs) 12:17, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If CIA World Factbook is unreliable, then you should instead find a better source, rather than erase everything Cobaltous (talk) 18:56, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The point is that there is no reliable source dividing Salvadorans between "whites" and "mestizos" - certainly not quantifying them. White isn't even a biological concept in Latin America and "mestizo" is a term which is used in the abstract rather than referring to a specific group of people. Being one or the other is subjective and one of self-perception and sometimes ideology. Some people may or may not wish to identify as white in differing contexts. There is certainly no internal racial boundary within the country. Salvadorans may also be percieved as white in some (most) countries and as non-white in others - namely the US. Huasteca (talk) 19:19, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mestizo vs White

As mentioned, there is no reliable source either official nor unofficial which divides Salvadorans between two distinct white and mestizo ethnic groups nor gives figures for either. Beyond the entire notion being creepy and racist, it is simply unsourceable. If you want a section on the overall genetic make-up of Salvadorans, I have no issue with that. Otherwise creating false racial internal boundary is simply not possible. --Huasteca (talk) 15:53, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Huasteca it is obvious that you are targeting Salvadoran pages in specific and not the other Latin American pages with your racial beliefs. The Census in El Salvador has in fact allowed it's citizens to identify themselves with different ethnic groups of El Salvador. It is also obvious that you are bent in erasing African contributions in El Salvador. El Salvador, Mestizos and Whites are not combined as the same people. Mestizo Salvadorans have indigenous ancestry while white Salvadorans do not. Rather than erasing all of the information, you should instead look for better sources Cobaltous (talk) 19:19, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pardo Salvadorans

Pardo Salvadorans do not exist. The term is not used in El Salvador nor is there a sizeable Afro-descended population in the country (i.e. above 1%). There may be individuals who have African roots, as there are in every country in the world, from Japan to Ireland, but they do not represent a section of the Salvadoran population. Sources do not support "Pardos" are an ethnicity or section of the Salvadoran population. I will wait for 24 hours until the editor proponent of this provides a valid source or argument countering this fact before deleting the section.Huasteca (talk) 17:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These were given from reliable sources but you dismissed them because it did not fit your narrative. No one has ever stated that El Salvador has a "large and pure" African heritage. It is stated that African were in fact brought to El Salvador during and after the colonization and have contributed in the ethnic composition of El Salvador. Yet you deny this and see African heritage in El Salvador as harmful and worth denying. People with African heritage are present in El Salvador and the term Pardo which means tri-racial was used to identify people of tri-racial background African, Indigenous and European. That fact that your pushing to deny this does say a lot. In fact the Ministry of Culture of El Salvador did a complete informative documentary called (Piezas de Indias) about African history in El Salvador where this is confirmed by investigators and historians.

Cobaltous (talk) 19:17, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]