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Table of Republics

I have made a table of the republics with information i thought interesting. I have spotted and corrected one or two mistakes, but anyone who sees an apparent mistake (eg. missing a zero from Tatarstan's population or Bashkirs as the titular nationality of Kalmykia) please feel free to check it up and if necessary correct it. My main source was other wikipedia articles, but i also used: Sakwa, Russian politics and society, 3rd ed., Routledge, 2002. N-edits 18:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Migration?

"Due to decades (in some cases centuries) of internal migration inside Russia, this nationality is not necessarily a majority of a republic's population."

I recently read 'Murder in Samarkand' by Graig Murray (U.K. ambassador to Uzbekistan until 2004). He states a different reason why many of the 'ethnic republics' are named for groups that are often actually a minority in the republic in question. His explanation is that is that Stalin intentionally draw up the lines so as to fragment and isolate each ethnic group, and to ensure they were actually a minority in their 'homeland'. This was done in order to limit the potential for nationalist movements and independence calls. If I remember correctly Uzbekistan is a good example - the majority ethnic group in Uzbekistan is the Tajiks. (Presumably, following this logic, the Tajiks are a minority in Tajikistan, though I have not checked this.) This argument is supported to some degree by the very odd ways that some of the borders have been drawn up, often criss-crossing (rather than following) natural boundaries. In places the borders almost seem fractal - in fact, in places there are isolated enclaves of one republic inside another. This was apparently to break off and isolate towns that had a particular majority from their larger geographic area.

I'm not sure "in some cases centuries" makes sense either; as I understand it many of these named regions (even when part of the USSR) are not centuries old. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.232.250.50 (talk) 16:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

the whole idea of self governed republics is just terrible. because it promoted independent movements. non west country grant such a high level of autonomous power. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.73.78.62 (talk) 02:20, 16 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Russian text

Line 137 of this article (last line of "Demographics trend") is in Russian. As this is an English article, it should be translated.
--Spike35031 (talk) 17:06, 16 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

-- I highlighted the text in question, right-clicked, selected the "Bing" translator, and got this as a translation of the Cyrillic text:

In the column "other" are the people who are the second largest indigenous peoples in dvusostavnyh republics.

The Bing translator couldn't translate dvu-sostanvnyh, but from my Russian dictionaries it's my guess that the word "sostanvnyh" means "composition", "structure", and/or "body", and the prefix dvu apparently means "double". So in this case, I think "two or more" could be a close fit for dvu in the phrase, i.e., 'republics with two or more indigenous peoples'. Anyway, I'll leave this for the curious as a partial translation until someone having a better command of Russian than I do goes ahead and makes the appropriate change in the article.
K. Kellogg-Smith (talk) 23:59, 5 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Russian language is my native and you are absolutely right. Two-nation republics, such as Kabardino-Balkaria, was created for two nations.Viktor Š 11:22, 26 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Виктор Ш. (talk • contribs)

Crimean titular nation

Actually Crimean republic was created as Russian autonomy in Ukraine, and keeping status of a republic in Russia to be able to have Ukrainian and Crimean-tatar languages as official ones.Viktor Š 11:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

I think there is no titular ethnicity in the Republic of Crimea. Crimea has just kept the republic status when it came to Russia. It's the only republic in Russia that wasn't given its status because of ethnicity. So I think it should be changed in the article. 2A00:1028:919E:BE42:6472:EC0B:31CF:FFCD (talk) 08:09, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Crimea "internationally recognized" as part of Ukraine

What exactly is the definition of "internationally recognized" being used here? Jahelistbro (talk) 18:56, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Probably, most United Nations member states (via United Nations General Assembly Resolution 68/262, 100 fotes "for" of 193 total UNMS) And yes, that formulation ("internationally recognized as part of Ukraine") is not WP:OR or whatever — it is how Crimea is described by reliable sources. See, for example, here: "The territories of the Crimean peninsula, comprising Sevastopol City and the Republic (formerly the Autonomous Republic) of Crimea, constituting the Crimean Federal Okrug, were annexed by Russia in March 2014, but remain internationally recognized as part of Ukraine". --Seryo93 (talk) 20:22, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

51.81% of nations is considered international recognition, yes, but so is 48.19%. Technically 48.19% of nations didn't recognize (realize that I do distinguish between non-recognition of Crimea as a part of the Ukraine, and recognition of Crimea as part of Russia) the resolution. And 8 members of the United Nations have in a manner or another recognized Crimea to be a subject of Russia. That is international recognition, by definition. I only seek a NPV, and by that I mean that I only seek the reality be made readily apparent. The recognition of Crimea, as a part of Ukraine is disputed. Thanks, Jahelistbro (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Internationally" means everybody except Russians. 195.114.147.176 (talk) 10:02, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnicity of heads

User:ProjectHorizons I think table of Ethnicity of heads should be in this article.--Kaiyr (talk) 07:22, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Personally a table looks ugly and you'd have to find sources to make it credible to be added. However, there is an existing image that you uploaded in 2017 that shows the exact same thing, though it is in Russian. I wouldn't mind this being added if it is translated to English and the republics are listed alphabetically under the Latin script. ProjectHorizons (talk) 15:45, 7 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Former republics

I've been working on extending the Republics list section in the article to include former republics that existed throughout the Soviet Union's history and am wondering if it would be a good addition or not?

This is what I've currently made. ProjectHorizons (talk) 16:43, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Former republics

Flag	Map	Name	Domestic common and formal names	Capital	Titular Nationality	Population	Area	Years
		Checheno-Ingush ASSR	Template:Lang-ru (Checheno-Ingushskaya ASSR) Template:Lang-ce(Noxç-Ġalġayn ASSR) Template:Lang-inh (Noxç-Ghalghaj ASSR)	Grozny Template:Lang-ru (Grozny) Template:Lang-ce (Sölƶa-Ġala) Template:Lang-inh (Sholzha-Gala)	Chechens, Ingush	1,155,805 (1979)	19,300 km² (7,452 sq mi)	1936–1944 1957–1991
		Kazakh ASSR^[a]	Template:Lang-ru (Kazakskaya ASSR) Template:Lang-kk (Qazaq ASSR)	Alma-Ata Template:Lang-ru (Alma-Ata) Template:Lang-kk (Almaty)	Kazakhs	7,260,000 (1931)	2,853,300 km² (1,101,665 sq mi)^[1]	1925–1936
	N/A	Kirghiz ASSR	Template:Lang-ru (Kirgizskaya ASSR) Template:Lang-ky (Qırğız ASSR)	Frunze Template:Lang-ru (Frunze) Template:Lang-ky (Frunze)	Kyrgyz	993,000 (1926)	196,700 km² (75,946 sq mi)^[1]	1926–1936^[2]
File:Flag of Mountain ASSR (1921-1924).svg		Mountain ASSR	Template:Lang-ru (Gorskaya ASSR)	Vladikavkaz Template:Lang-ru (Vladikavkaz)	Six indigenous nationalities^[b]	1,286,000 (1921)	73,000 km² (28,185 sq mi)	1921–1924
		Turkestan ASSR	Template:Lang-ru (Turkestanskaya ASSR)	Tashkent Template:Lang-ru (Tashkent)	Six indigenous nationalities^[c]	5,221,963 (1920)	73,000 km² (28,185 sq mi)	1918–1924^[3]
		Ural Republic	Template:Lang-ru (Uralskaya Republika)	Yekaterinburg Template:Lang-ru (Ekaterinburg)	—	4,732,538 (1993)	194,307 km² (75,022 sq mi)	1993^[d]
		Volga German ASSR	Template:Lang-ru (Nemtsev Povolzh'ya ASSR) Template:Lang-de	Engels Template:Lang-ru (Engels) Template:Lang-de	Germans	606,352 (1939)	27,400 km² (10,579 sq mi)	1918–1941

References

^ ^a ^b Epstein, Mortimer (1936). The Statesman's Year-Book: Statistical and Historical Annual of the States of the World for the Year 1936. London, United Kingdom: Macmillan and Co., Limited. p. 1283. ISBN 978-0-230-27065-7.
^ Fowkes, Ben (1997). The Disintegration of the Soviet Union: A Study in the Rise and Triumph of Nationalism. London, United Kongdom: Macmillan Press Ltd. pp. 45–46. ISBN 978-0-230-37746-2.
^ Roberts, Glenn (2007). Commissar and Mullah: Soviet-Muslim Policy from 1917 to 1924. Boca Raton, United States: Dissertation. pp. 65 and 148. ISBN 1-58112-349-3.
^ Herrera, Yoshika (2005). Imagined Economies: The Sources of Russian Regionalism. Cambridge, United Kingdom: Cambridge University Press. pp. 228 and 242. ISBN 978-0-511-07952-8.

Crimea is Ukraine.

Not "disputed".
We can just add that Russians don't agree with it but nobody cares.
OK: Let's assume that tomorrow Russians say that Alaska belongs to Mother Russia. Should we change the status of Alaska to "disputed"?

Yes, we can say that Russians occupy Crimea, but Ukraine controls air and sea in Crimea according to the international law. I think the fact that Russians don't respect international law, is Russians' problem, not ours!

Sobsnobel (talk) 09:29, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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[mortimer-2] Epstein, Mortimer (1936). The Statesman's Year-Book: Statistical and Historical Annual of the States of the World for the Year 1936. London, United Kingdom: Macmillan and Co., Limited. p. 1283. ISBN 978-0-230-27065-7.

[3] Fowkes, Ben (1997). The Disintegration of the Soviet Union: A Study in the Rise and Triumph of Nationalism. London, United Kongdom: Macmillan Press Ltd. pp. 45–46. ISBN 978-0-230-37746-2.

[6] Roberts, Glenn (2007). Commissar and Mullah: Soviet-Muslim Policy from 1917 to 1924. Boca Raton, United States: Dissertation. pp. 65 and 148. ISBN 1-58112-349-3.

[7] Herrera, Yoshika (2005). Imagined Economies: The Sources of Russian Regionalism. Cambridge, United Kingdom: Cambridge University Press. pp. 228 and 242. ISBN 978-0-511-07952-8.

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 ::51.81% of nations is considered international recognition, yes, but so is 48.19%. Technically 48.19% of nations didn't ''recognize'' (realize that I do distinguish between non-recognition of Crimea as a part of the Ukraine, and recognition of Crimea as part of Russia) the resolution. And 8 members of the United Nations have in a manner or another recognized Crimea to be a subject of Russia. That is [[international]] recognition, by definition. I only seek a NPV, and by that I mean that I only seek the reality be made readily apparent. The recognition of Crimea, as a part of Ukraine is disputed. Thanks, [[User:Jahelistbro|Jahelistbro]] ([[User talk:Jahelistbro|talk]]) 19:34, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
+"Internationally" means everybody except Russians. [[Special:Contributions/195.114.147.176|195.114.147.176]] ([[User talk:195.114.147.176|talk]]) 10:02, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 == Ethnicity of heads ==