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Dispute over the credibility of a link

This is the weakness of Wikipedia: once a link in the internet is credited as a source, it can survive later corrections. The 2011 link (saying Ring's mother is German) in RevierSport is incorrect. Their info is simply false, perhaps a misunderstanding. Everybody who know the person in question (Mrs. Anne Maria Ring) know that she's a Finn, hailing from Finland and living there. She can be reached through her social media accounts to confirm this. Also the now deleted Finnish source confirms RevierSport's error (which was in turn copied to Rheinische Post, and maybe also others). The best way to avoid this kind of disinfo to spread is to not write it in Wikipedia. I thus propose that the definition of the nationality to be left out, rather than to retain a disputed (false) info. 37.219.246.110 (talk) 10:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll copy the sources here: ^[1]^[2] Now we're in a situation where we have two reliable sources (Rheinische Post and RevierSport) that clearly say that Ring's mother is German. You claim that this source ^[3] confirms that there's an error - but how exactly? That source says that his mother wanted to return to Finland where Ring was born but nothing about the mother's nationality. I think we can restore the information about his parents, unless of course someone finds a reliable source that say his mother isn't German. If you wish, you can contact RevierSport and Rheinische Post and ask them to correct their news articles. 211.21.23.71 (talk) 18:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Spiele gegen Schalke als Schaufenster". RevierSport [de] (in German). 18 August 2011. Retrieved 23 February 2021.
^ "Forssells Rat an Ring". Rheinische Post (in German). 7 January 2012. Retrieved 18 March 2021.
^ https://www.is.fi/jalkapallo/art-2000000932254.html

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[1] "Spiele gegen Schalke als Schaufenster". RevierSport [de] (in German). 18 August 2011. Retrieved 23 February 2021.

[2] "Forssells Rat an Ring". Rheinische Post (in German). 7 January 2012. Retrieved 18 March 2021.

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 This is the weakness of Wikipedia: once a link in the internet is credited as a source, it can survive later corrections. The 2011 link (saying Ring's mother is German) in RevierSport is incorrect. Their info is simply false, perhaps a misunderstanding. Everybody who know the person in question (Mrs. Anne Maria Ring) know that she's a Finn, hailing from Finland and living there. She can be reached through her social media accounts to confirm this. Also the now deleted Finnish source confirms RevierSport's error (which was in turn copied to Rheinische Post, and maybe also others).
 The best way to avoid this kind of disinfo to spread is to not write it in Wikipedia. I thus propose that the definition of the nationality to be left out, rather than to retain a disputed (false) info. [[Special:Contributions/37.219.246.110|37.219.246.110]] ([[User talk:37.219.246.110|talk]]) 10:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
+:I'll copy the sources here: <ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.reviersport.de/artikel/164884---helsinki-ring-will-fuer-bundesliga-empfehlen/ |title=Spiele gegen Schalke als Schaufenster |date=18 August 2011 |website={{ill|RevierSport|de}} |language=de |access-date=23 February 2021}}</ref><ref>{{cite web |url=https://rp-online.de/sport/fussball/borussia/forssells-rat-an-ring_aid-13833901 |title=Forssells Rat an Ring |date=7 January 2012 |website=[[Rheinische Post]] |language=de |access-date=18 March 2021}}</ref> Now we're in a situation where we have two reliable sources ([[Rheinische Post]] and [[:de:RevierSport|RevierSport]]) that clearly say that Ring's mother is German. You claim that this source <ref>https://www.is.fi/jalkapallo/art-2000000932254.html</ref> confirms that there's an error - but how exactly? That source says that his mother wanted to return to Finland where Ring was born but nothing about the mother's nationality. I think we can restore the information about his parents, unless of course someone finds a [[WP:V|reliable source]] that say his mother isn't German. If you wish, you can contact ''RevierSport'' and ''Rheinische Post'' and ask them to correct their news articles. [[Special:Contributions/211.21.23.71|211.21.23.71]] ([[User talk:211.21.23.71|talk]]) 18:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
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