User talk:Georgek98

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Managing a conflict of interest

Hello, Georgek98. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

• avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization or competitors;
• propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{request edit}} template);
• disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#How to disclose a COI);
• avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
• do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted.

Per your note on my talk page here, you are the creator of covid19livespread.com, therefore you have a conflict of interest. As such, you do need to declare your COI on your User page and should not reference the site on any articles. Rather, you should make an edit request (instructions above) mentioning your COI along with your suggested changes. S0091 (talk) 19:23, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Copyright

Hi, and thanks for offering your image for Wikipedia use. But as Wikipedia content is licensed for online reuse by anyone, the content you wish to offer must be freely licenced for anyone else to use. The procedure for donating copyright content to Wikipedia is described at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:41, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

January 2021

This is your only warning; if you insert a spam link to Wikipedia again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted, preventing anyone from linking to them from all Wikimedia sites as well as potentially being penalized by search engines.

Stop adding your website to articles. S0091 (talk) 17:30, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Adding my website link and providing useful information is not spamming. So you think that citing the original author of the material is classified as "spamming"? There was another user who converted my website link to reference which was the correct way of going about it. Do not remove the original author from the content as the reader needs to know where the material is coming from. Second of all, you have incorrectly labelled my edit and the other user's correction include the reference as spamming and you gave me a warning for "citing" the author. On your article, I have seen a few images which are cited to the reference link with numbers and you are now reverting the other user's correction? You are making a big mistake here. Georgek98 (talk) 18:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Per the COI notice above, you should not be adding your website to articles which you have done across many COVID articles instructing readers to visit your site. That is in fact spamming. What you need to do is to declare your COI and make edits requests on the articles' talk pages so editors can assess your website to determine if it is a reliable source, thus should be cited. S0091 (talk) 18:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Can you give me an example on how to disclose my COI? I have read the links by I am still unsure how to do it. I need to make sure I am doing this correctly. Georgek98 (talk) 18:35, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

S0091 On top of that, I can see that you have completely removed the author from all the images I posted with intentions to provide useful information to those pages. I urge you to immediately cite the author correctly on those pages as your are going against the license listed on the footer area of the website. Georgek98 (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I have added a COI notice on your User page. Attribution to the images is already given at Commons where the images reside. Pinging @Diannaa:, who is more knowledgeable about copyrights, to get their input. S0091 (talk) 19:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

S0091 Yes, as I said, you have sourced other images from the page and I still urge you to cite mine as you are still going against the guidelines. As per the guidelines For any material mentioned above (Data or Maps), cite the author with a dynamic link labeled as ncovtrack.com pointing to ncovtrack.com you are still not complying with it. Ok, so this means that I will be able to post images on the pages and cite them?Georgek98 (talk) 19:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I do not think you can dictate how your images are used in that manner but let's wait for Dianna's input. S0091 (talk) 19:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Refer to the CC 4.0 license under the Under the following terms section. You have to attribute the material appropriately by citing back to the author. The guidelines listed on the website are clear and obay the license. Georgek98 (talk) 19:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

The way this works on Wikipedia is that the image is attributed at Wikimedia Commons. No image credits should appear on the Wikipedia page that uses the image. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

jmcgnh If this is the case, then remove all the references from all the images from this page. There is a reference number for the map under the July 2020 section and no one has said anything and S0091 threatened me with a block if I continue citing materials with their author. This shows how badly this case was handled and how badly and unfairly S0091 treated me in this case. Thismay be within the territory of power abuse. Don't do that. Georgek98 (talk) 21:28, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

If there is some inadvertent inconsistency in how things are handled we'll be able to address it. But I don't see what you are referring to. Can you be more specific, please? — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:05, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

jmcgnh Please read the entire thread from the beginning. This is what I am referring to. Georgek98 (talk) 22:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Again, the reason for the warning was because your were explicitly directing readers to your website (ex. [1], [2],[3]) which is promotion and is not allowed. In addition, you have not been making it clear to the community that you have a COI. S0091 (talk) 22:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Are you referring to the reference in the caption for the map found at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:COVID-19_England_travel_corridors_world_map.svg ? That image was created based on data at the reference, but was created by an editor who is not directly credited on the page.

There's a difference between an image credit and a reference for data.

Still, you adding references to your own website is taken as spamming and is unwelcome. You may request an edit on the talk page to see if an independent editor agrees with adding the reference. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Ok, I respect your opinions, but I still believe that the way I was treated as a newbie, by you the professionals was terrible. Warnings like these shouldn't be raised to newbies that quickly, unless they are indeed spamming intentionally. It was clear that there wasn't much information online and I jumped right into to include the maps to make the articles better and not to promote my website. Furthermore, if I had the intentions to promote my website and so spam, I would put maps for every country from my website to every Wikipedia covid-19-related article. Furthermore, S0091 you quickly accused me for spamming and you shouldn't have (as explained above). You shouldn't be treating new-comers that way.

I did advise you twice, once on my talk page and again in the COI notice above that you should not add your website to articles and you needed to declare your COI. You did not follow that advice nor Wikipedia's COI guidelines provided to you. With that said, perhaps I should have used a lighter touch. If you agree you now understand these specific policies and guidelines and that you will not add your website to articles going forward, I will strike my warning. Of course, you are more than welcome to make edit requests as instructed before. S0091 (talk) 22:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

S0091 Only because they are guidelines listed by Wikipedia and I spent the past 2 hours reviewing them, I have to agree to maintain stability. Of course, I hope you also consider my personal view on the situation of this thread and to not discard it. If you have any further questions, queries or concerns regarding my contribution, please do let me know. Georgek98 (talk) 23:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello I am Diannaa and I was asked to comment here. Please see Wikipedia:Copyrights#Guidelines for images and other media files. The way we do it is each image that we host here or on the Commons must have a license on the file description page. We don't include the license information or author name on each usage of the image within the encyclopedia. It might be a good idea to do that, but at present it's not required. If you disagree with that policy, the place to discuss it is at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy).— Diannaa (talk) 13:14, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi S0091, sorry for bringing this up again, but I have made a post a few days ago on the talk page of "covid-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom" asking the editors to cite the maps. Is this the correct way of doing it and is this what you mean for me to do yesterday?

No problem! You just need to note that it is your website. It might also be helpful to add the edit request template so it gets editors attention (place {{request edit}} above your comments). S0091 (talk) 16:23, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you S0091. You may review my request now.

I will not review it as I think you should get input from different editors. Good job with the template. Sometimes they can be tricky. Also, while the backlog is high, the talk page has over 200 watchers so hopefully it will not take that long for editors to respond. You may also also want to read this guide on using talk pages. Some editors can be particular about proper indenting. Best of luck. S0091 (talk) 19:54, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for submitting your graphs! They are great.

However, I've noticed you've been including extra links back to your own website. Please:

• only include links in references (or sources section on photos)
• do not include excessive links to your website, beyond what is necessary

That is to say, someone should not be encouraged to visit your website for more information.

If someone would like to verify that the information on wikipedia matches the website, or find who the owner of the page is, they should be able to find that information. (This will satisfy the requirements of the CC-BY-4.0 license.)

I think you can agree that trying to profit (whether by money, or bragging rights) off the coronavirus can be considered very scummy behaviour, so I recommend you to source correctly.

Hope you enjoy the kitten!

— qaisjp^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. Though I agree I might have cited the material in an advertising manner, I wasn't sure that others will find the citing more of a promotion than referencing, though I can confirm that I had no intentions to promote my website nor to earn money from it. It's very sad that some people may believe something like this. Now I understand things better. Was also going to remove the "double referencing" but I saw that you already done it recently for me. Thanks. I hope this can clear some things up, and thanks for your kitten. I will enjoy it. Georgek98 (talk) 00:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)