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Definition of edit warring

Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.

Definition of the three-revert rule (3RR)

An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.

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User:Viennese Waltz reported by 91.125.11.18 (Result: Declined)

Page: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Viennese Waltz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. Consecutive edits made from 09:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC) to 10:27, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
   1. 09:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1014829201 by 146.199.206.3 (talk)"
   2. 09:36, 29 March 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1014829901 by 146.199.206.3 (talk)"

1. 09:55, 29 March 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1014831692 by 146.199.206.3 (talk)"

1. 10:27, 29 March 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1014833493 by 146.199.206.3 (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

Editor has received repeated warnings from administrators and other editors over the past three years

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

See edit summary 17:07, 26 March 2021

Comments:

This editor seems like he can only talk in edit summaries of reverts. 91.125.11.18 (talk) 11:59, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

146.199.206.3 and 91.125.11.18 are both the banned user Vote (X) for Change. His contributions can be reverted on sight. He should not even be bringing this case. See WP:LTA/VXFC. --Viennese Waltz 12:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

I read the cited page, which seems to consist of a lot of allegations unsupported by diffs and nothing relating to me. For example, the last report is this [1]. I checked the science desk archive around the time of the report and found this [2], this [3] and this User talk:90.192.119.245. There are two IPs involved 200 miles apart. 91.125.11.18 (talk) 12:56, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

It's not edit warring to revert the posts of a banned user. --Viennese Waltz 15:18, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

• Result: Declined, too much likelihood that the filer of this report is a banned user. Note that the reverts listed above are reverts of an editor, 146.199.206.3 (talk · contribs), who was recently blocked by User:Newslinger. This 149.* IP is suspected to be WP:LTA/VXFC, who is known to edit at the reference desks. It is plausible that the IP who filed this report, 91.*, is also VXFC. EdJohnston (talk) 02:39, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

  Confirming that 91.125.11.18 (talk · contribs) is likely a community-banned user. — Newslinger talk 19:59, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

I see that at 19:54, 3 April 2021 Newslinger blocked 91.125.11.18 for 48 hours. It's last edit was on 29 March. So why did Newslinger show up to block it five days later? He claimed it is "likely a community-banned user" but gave no reasoning. On 29 March Viennese Waltz claimed it was a "banned user" but gave no reasoning. Newslinger rejected Viennese Waltz's claim on 29 March so it was not open to him to block subsequently without going to ANI to seek Community sanction for his proposed action. On 31 March EdJohnston claimed it was "plausible" that the IP" is [a named registered user]. That was wheelwarring, no reasoning was given, and more seriously since it is not permitted to link IPs to accounts it was WP:OUTING which attracts a permanent Foundation ban. EdJohnston also claimed 149.XX.XX.XX "is suspected to be" this registered user but no report for this IP was submitted. No reasoning was provided, so where was he getting his information?

Viennese Waltz also claimed (without giving any reason) that 146.199.206.3 was the same editor as 91.125.11.18. As Newslinger had already ruled that 91.125.11.18 was not banned, that means that 146.199.206.3 is not banned either. Checking 146.199.206.3's block log you will see that on 29 March Newslinger blocked it for "disruptive editing". If it had been a sockpuppet or an LTA he would have said so and would have had to give reasons. Again, at 19:41, 3 April Newslinger blocked 91.125.11.49 for one month claiming it was evading a block without giving reasons. It last edited on 1 April and was not blocked. So why did Newslinger show up two days later to block it? 146.199.206.72 also edited this section on 1 April. It was not blocked, so why did Newslinger show up two days later to block it? On 3 April Newslinger also claimed 91.125.11.18 had been engaged in "block evasion, ban evasion, or sockpuppetry" despite having given it a clean bill of health five days before. It's obvious he had no evidence, because if he did have evidence he would have been able to say which (of block evasion/ban evasion/sockpuppetry) it was alleged to be.

Newslinger has also linked numerous IPs to the named registered user without giving any reason, but this is not permitted under any circumstances. EdJohnston's sole argument is that IPs who edit the reference desk are ipso facto this named user. 146.200.241.113 edited this section at 17:50, 2 April and has a clean block log yet Newslinger claimed it was a block-evading IP without giving any reason. At 19:41 on 3 April Newslinger blocked 91.125.11.49 for one month claiming it was evading a block. It had edited this section on 1 April and was not blocked, so why did Newslinger show up two days later to block it without giving any reason?

Newslinger added a number of IPs to a page linking IP numbers to a registered editor. Although this is illegal, anyone can do it without giving any reason. For example, Jayron32 did this last year (IPs who ask reasonable questions on the reference desk and provide useful answers are never accused of being sockpuppets of any other editor). Jayron removed questions and answers claiming the IPs he linked to this registered editor had asked "provocative and leading questions." Provocative of what? Our article "leading question" says it "is a question that suggests the particular answer or contains the information the examiner is looking to have confirmed." One question was "Is everything in construction designed, even minor works? For example, filling a pot hole or making good after doing work (whether that's ramping off edges or filling gaps between the road and hoarding etc." None of the information in the answer given was in the question.

Jayron removed another question with the comment "apologies for good faith answer". Why is he apologising for other editors' work in providing helpful answers to questions? The IP submitted an unblock request and was told (s)he could register an account, which (s)he wouldn't have been told if (s)he) was a "block-evading LTA". 89.240.119.163 (talk) 16:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

User:Claus st margarita reported by User:Ashleyyoursmile (Result: Indef)

Page: New Hollywood (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Claus st margarita (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 05:31, 3 April 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1015729190 by StjepanHR (talk)"
2. 05:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1015728917 by Ashleyyoursmile (talk)"
3. 05:27, 3 April 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1015728870 by Ashleyyoursmile (talk)"
4. 05:26, 3 April 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1015728777 by StjepanHR (talk)"
5. 05:24, 3 April 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1015728662 by StjepanHR (talk)"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 05:29, 3 April 2021 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on New Hollywood."

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

This user is edit-warring on the page and is removing "better source needed" maintenance tag repeatedly. They have been asked to discuss on the talk page, warned about 3RR. But they have continued with this. Ashleyyoursmile! 05:34, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

• Blocked – Indef as a vandalism-only account by User:EvergreenFir. The user's account is also locked globally. EdJohnston (talk) 01:24, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

User:AntiSemanticCanard reported by User:Alexbrn (Result: Blocked)

Page: Post-finasteride syndrome (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: AntiSemanticCanard (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

1. [4]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 08:20, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "It's already been discussed in talk. Nobody has provided a source for the claim that Trueb et al are scientists. It's been shown several times they are dermatologists with a COI."
2. 07:06, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "/* Cause */ The article cited was [not] authored by scientists, rather dermatologists expressing an opinion."
3. 06:57, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "/* Cause */ This has been litigated in the talk. Trueb et al are NOT scientists. You were unable to provide a counter-argument. It explicitly states they expressed an OPINION. Opinions from non-scientists carry no weight."
4. 03:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "/* Cause */ The source does not match the claim. S"
5. 00:08, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "No scientist says PFS is caused by mass psychosis"
6. 18:31, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "This claim was made by dermatologists, not scientists. Dermatologists are not qualified to discuss the field of psychiatry."
7. 18:55, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning: see User Talk:AntiSemanticCanard

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: see Talk:Post-finasteride syndrome

Comments: This could be resolved if User:Alexbrn weren't so biased in his approach. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that Trueb et al are not scientists but dermatologists. They explicitly state they are expressing an opinion. Opinions from non-scientists are not valid. This is a cut and dry case. AntiSemanticCanard (talk) 07:37, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

• You were previously linked to WP:EW where it plainly says that "being right" is not a defense (and you're wrong in any case). You have been warring against multiple editors. Alexbrn (talk) 07:17, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
• Source of the claim says: 'More recently, Rezende et al. (65) and Trueb et al. (66) published an article, Post-Finasteride Syndrome: An Induced Delusional Disorder with the Potential of a Mass Psychogenic Illness? The authors labeled patients with PFS as psychotic and delusional, as stated in their discussion, “In our opinion, PFS demonstrates some analogies to such controversial “mystery syndromes” as amalgam illness, multiple chemical sensitivity, Morgellons disease, and Koro for the following reasons: patients complain of symptoms that cannot be adequately explained biologically, and the frequency of consultations for the conditions parallels the respective media coverage, which points to a high degree of suggestibility.' No where does it suggest Trueb et al are scientists but merely dermatologists with a COI expressing an opinion. Moreso, the lead author has a history of quackery, writing papers such as "Saint rita of cascia: Patron saint for women with frontal fibrosing alopecia?" and "Minoxidil for endocrine therapy-induced alopecia in women with breast cancer-saint Agatha's blessing?" and having them published in "peer-reviewed" journals. So not only is this 'scientist' not a scientist, he's a bizarre quack with a history writing strange papers with a veneer of scientific integrity.

My conclusion is Alexbrn shares the same religious beliefs as Trueb and is therefore unqualified to edit the controversial topic. AntiSemanticCanard (talk) 07:36, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

• If you have an issue with the content and are in a minority, you need to discuss that issue on the article's Talk page rather than repeatedly reverting everybody. An admin may wish to erase the potentially libellous BLP violation in the above (and there's similar at the article Talk page too). Alexbrn (talk) 07:39, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
• I already did. Nobody, including you, has provided a source for the claim that Trueb at al are scientists. It's been shown they merely run a dermatologist practice and have a COI and a history of authoring papers about Catholic saints performing miracles. AntiSemanticCanard (talk) 08:16, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

RM Trüeb is an ex-professor in the University of Zürich, and credited author of articles and some books. Dermatologists are scientists and, indeed, medical doctors. NikosGouliaros (talk) 17:01, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

• Dermatologists are not scientists. And even if he were, he is not qualified to discuss "mass psychosis" or "histrionic personality disorders" as he is a clinician (not a scientist) of skin disorders. AntiSemanticCanard (talk) 18:28, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

AntiSemanticCanard is continuing to edit war while commenting on this report. - MrOllie (talk) 18:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

• The rule explicitly state: "Reliable sources must be strong enough to support the claim. A lightweight source may sometimes be acceptable for a lightweight claim, but never for an extraordinary claim." Dermatologists (with a history of writing quack papers) making claims of "mass psychosis and delusions" is an extraordinary claim. AntiSemanticCanard (talk) 19:05, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

• Blocked – 31 hours for edit warring by User:Cullen328. EdJohnston (talk) 01:27, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

User:IAmPushpak reported by User:36.68.161.33 (Result: Warned)

Page: Mohun Bagan A.C. (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: IAmPushpak (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

1. [5]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [6]
2. [7]
3. [8]
4. [9]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Comments: This user has conducted edit warring and vandalism with ArnabSaha over addition of materials against the discussion/consensus related to the article and reliable sources and without following NPOV. 36.68.161.33 (talk) 10:42, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

• Result: User:IAmPushpak is warned for making personal attacks in edit summaries, such as "The link redirects to a vandalised page that steals info from this page." Be polite, and use the talk page to find agreement on what to do. EdJohnston (talk) 01:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

User:180.252.247.184 reported by User:Assem Khidhr (Result: Blocked)

Page: 2022 FIFA World Cup qualification – AFC Second Round (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: 180.252.247.184 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 09:39, 4 April 2021 (UTC) ""
2. 06:17, 4 April 2021 (UTC) ""
3. 05:41, 4 April 2021 (UTC) ""
4. 02:36, 4 April 2021 (UTC) ""
5. 22:28, 3 April 2021 (UTC) ""

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning: Special:Diff/1015899304

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

User was given multiple warnings by multiple editors, including a final warning (none of which issued by me). Assem Khidhr (talk) 12:50, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

The IP in question has been blocked for 31 hours for vandalism... - Adolphus79 (talk) 18:05, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

User:185.46.78.5 reported reported by User:Harizotoh9 (Result: Semi)

Page: Andre Rush (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 185.46.78.5 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [10]
2. [11]
3. [12]
4. [13]
5. [14]
6. [15]
7. [16]
8. [17]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Comments: Edit warring over last few days, plus BLP violations by inserting a controversy section sourced to Youtube vlogs. Harizotoh9 (talk) 18:20, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Started discussion on article talk, though with 2 warnings ignored and at least 7 reverts over two days, I'm not expecting 185.46.78.5 to engage there. POLITANVM ^talk 23:14, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

• Result: Page semiprotected one week by User:MelanieN due to addition of unsourced content. EdJohnston (talk) 01:58, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

User:107.10.140.224 reported by User:Tommi1986 (Result: Partial block)

Page: Stand and Deliver (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: 107.10.140.224 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 19:16, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "/* Legacy */Removed irrelevant content. An obscure 8 year old speech is not pertinent to the film Stand and Deliver and its legacy. It is incumbent on the individual who referenced the speech to show that it is an impactful aspect of Stand and Deliver's legacy. If someone says this edit is invalid, the burden of proof is on you to explain what about it is invalid."
2. 18:41, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "/* Legacy */Removed irrelevant content.

An obscure 8 year old speech is not pertinent to the film Stand and Deliver and its legacy. It is imcumbent on the individual who referenced the speech to show that it is an impactful aspect of Stand and Deliver's legacy. I submit that it isn't."

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 19:17, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "Final Warning: Removal of content blanking (RW 16.1)"

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

Comments:

User has been blocked twice for edit warring, recent blocked expired and user has gone back to removing content, also attacking other users Tommi1986 ^{let's talk!} 19:18, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

• Result: User:107.10.140.224 has been partially blocked by User:Deepfriedokra for one week from editing the Stand and Deliver article. The IP editor has two previous edit warring blocks. EdJohnston (talk) 02:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

User:Blissfield101 reported by User:Avgeekamfot (Result: Warned)

Page: American Airlines (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Blissfield101 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=American_Airlines&oldid=1015856867
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=American_Airlines&oldid=1016000837
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=American_Airlines&oldid=1016002728
4. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=American_Airlines&oldid=1016003539

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Comments:

He warned me about no more than 3 revisions but then I saw he did it too. Hope I'm doing this right

• Result: User:Blissfield101 is warned they may be blocked the next time they revert about Seattle's status as an American hub unless they first get a talk page consensus in favor of their change. EdJohnston (talk) 02:34, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

User:Blissfield101 reported by User:Avgeekamfot (Result: Warned)

Page: Seattle–Tacoma International Airport (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Blissfield101 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Seattle%E2%80%93Tacoma_International_Airport&oldid=1015856905
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Seattle%E2%80%93Tacoma_International_Airport&oldid=1016000986
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Seattle%E2%80%93Tacoma_International_Airport&oldid=1016002528
4. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Seattle%E2%80%93Tacoma_International_Airport&oldid=1016003482

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]

Comments:
Same as the one above. He warned me about making more than 3 edits but he already did? Also I started discussion on the discussion page of both.

This user made a factually incorrect statement about Seattle/Tacoma being a hub for American Airlines. He cites a Bloomberg article that uses the term hub in a general sense, not referring to a specific . Seattle/Tacoma is a hub for American's partner, Alaska Airlines, but it was never declared by AA itself. What this user doesn't understand is that kind of language is used in airport articles all the time when referring to this kind of stuff. That does not mean it passes the WP:V test. Where is the statement from American Airlines announcing Seattle/Tacoma as an American hub? I tried explaining, but he keeps insisting on reverting my edits. Blissfield101 (talk) 21:25, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

You sent me a rule that says it's a "bright-line rule" not to undo another editors work more than 3 times in a 24 hour period. You've clearly done so and therefore you seem to be in violation of the rule you told me about. I await your block.

• Result: User:Blissfield101 is warned they may be blocked the next time they revert about Seattle's status as an American hub unless they first get a talk page consensus in favor of their change. EdJohnston (talk) 02:35, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

User:Klaysaurus reported by User:Wjemather (Result: Blocked)

Pages: 2020–21 PGA Tour (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Klaysaurus (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [18]

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [19]
2. [20]
3. [21]
4. [22]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [23]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: n/a. Previously discussed policy on user talk page.

Comments:
User readding content in clear violation of policy. Seems like a case of WP:NOTHERE, only edits are to preempt golf tournament results. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 22:03, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

userlinks:Wjemather --> This user was the one edit-warring by inputting incorrect information. If you go to the section in question mentioned, you can verify that my edits were correct while the undos by the user in question were incorrect and intended to be disruptive. We have gone over this issue numerous times before and he keeps repeating his ludicrous and questionable behaviour even when other admins have stated that I am not under any violation. At this point, I have accepted this user to be an insecure clown trying to cause disruption and chaos over and over again. As for me, I will continue to be a valuable contributor to the Wiki community here. Thanks again! Klaysaurus (talk) 22:13, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

The fact that some of your predictions have turned out does not stop them being in violation of WP:V and WP:NOT. Several editors have reverted these predictions and you have edit-warred over them. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 09:46, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Note: user also edit-warred at Jordan Spieth (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs); diff, diff, diff, diff. Has previously edit-warred over their policy-violating predictions at several other articles, as can be seen from their contribution history. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 10:03, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

• Comment A review of the reported editor's edit history shows a flurry of activity on Sundays—and a pattern of WP:CRYSTAL edits. I am also deeply troubled by the personal attack in the message here. I suggest that Klaysaurus make sure to follow Wikipedia policies and guidelines about sporting events, especially about not forecasting the winner of an event still underway. Otherwise, there may be a Sunday in the near future where the administrators are discussing at the incidents noticeboard whether to topic-ban Klaysaurus from golf tournaments currently underway and their participants, broadly construed. —C.Fred (talk) 13:09, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

• Result: User:Klaysaurus is blocked 31 hours for making personal attacks: "I have accepted this user to be an insecure clown trying to cause disruption and chaos" (see his comment above). Klaysaurus's user talk page is full of previous warnings. I agree with User:C.Fred's observation above. WP:CRYSTAL is part of policy and violations should not be taken lightly. EdJohnston (talk) 02:20, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

User:Isento reported by User:Mo Billings (Result: No violation)

Page: New York Dolls (album) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Isento (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted] [24] Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. [25]
2. [26]
3. [27]

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [28]

The above is not a diff of edit warring, but a diff of their talk page comment. isento (talk) 05:02, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [29]

That is a talk page post I started (and largely led) in order to resolve the dispute. isento (talk) 05:15, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Comments:
The article was on my watchlist from when I made an attempt to clean up the wording of one sentence back in February. Isento edit-warred then, too, and I just gave up. The edit in this 3RR report was originally made by a fairly new user, but reverted by Isento with an edit summary of "not important". That seemed like a very poor way to deal with a new user making a reasonable edit. Isento seems to have WP:OWNERSHIP issues. Mo Billings (talk) 03:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

This guy has been hounding me ever since that first content dispute at New York Dolls (album), which mind you I tried to discuss at the talk page but the editor responded aloofly and without much civility or intellectual responsiveness and accused me of ownership, which offended me. Then they occasionally followed my edits elsewhere: [30], [31], [32], [33], [34] (another bad faith assumption) ... As for this recent dispute, I thoroughly explained my reasoning for undoing at their talk page (including the fact that the "fairly new user" had cited self-published content to this featured article), but they are too slow to understand that they continuously were introducing inconsistent and badly formatted sourcing and still apparently do not understand that the content they are accusing me of removing already exists in footnote form beside the sentence they are badly rewording. I brought up WP:BOLD and WP:3RR as reasons why the discussion ought to be continued at the article talk page, but they once again chose a measure most severe to me and opened this report. Maybe this is an issue of competence, but I am doubting it. isento (talk) 04:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I have had a busy stressful day and made one of those reverts in haste on my phone at work, and I didn't properly explain in the first edit summary. But this report is unnecessary, after I clearly was willing to discuss this with them. I don't understand this obsession they seem to have with me. isento (talk) 04:37, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Their attitude at the first talk page discussion made it clear they didn't care about engaging with anything I had to say and they even said they don't care about the article ([35]). That they returned to it in this manner, after following my activity elsewhere, tells me they're hounding and/or being pointy. isento (talk) 04:41, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

As the comments above demonstrate, this editor is aggressive and hostile, which does not make me want to engage in long discussions with them over small changes to an article. Mo Billings (talk) 04:47, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

If you don't want to be held accountable for the things you do and say, why should you have any expectation that others ought to be? isento (talk) 04:53, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

@Mo Billings: I see no reason to change the format of the references in that article. I agreed with isento, your edit was sloppy. TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 05:29, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I didn't edit war back then, the time they are referring to of our first encounter. I reverted once, opened a discussion at the talk page, offered a compromise phrasing in another edit, and notified them of WP:BRD ([36]). This person seems more interested in annoying me than in any compromise. I even expressed an openness to their ideas in this current dispute so long as they discuss their point of view properly at the talk page instead of just reverting to their preferred revision. isento (talk) 05:00, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Honestly, I was hoping to take a break from this site when this happened. If you're gonna block me for however long, you ought to ban this person from interacting with me. The earlier encounters, especially his nomination of some subpage I had for deletion, in retrospect are creepy. I don't understand his continued interest in me or my activities. And I don't want to. I had a strong interest and passion for this article because I had devoted much energy and care to getting it to FA-level a while back (and preserving that quality), and this person's interest seems to just be disruptive and petty and not about the article. isento (talk) 05:07, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Note for closing admin: Isento continued to post on my talk page after I filed this report ([37] and [38]). After that I asked them politely to stop. They have posted two more messages since then, both of which are very aggressive ([39] and [40]). Isento seems to have difficulty controlling their anger. I don't think other editors should have to deal with that on a collaborative project like Wikipedia where editors are expected to be able to work together. Mo Billings (talk) 02:40, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

• No violation – Nobody broke the WP:3RR. But if there is still a dispute, the steps of WP:Dispute resolution are open to you. In their comments here and on the talk page, neither party will win any awards for diplomacy. If the issue is that you don't like someone's attitude, there is not usually a good remedy, unless a comment is so bad it justifies a WP:NPA block. EdJohnston (talk) 02:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm not in it for the awards 😏 isento (talk) 03:29, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

User:Passani reported by User:Modulato (Result: )

Page: La Voce di New York (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

User being reported: Passani (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to:

Diffs of the user's reverts:

1. 11:58, 5 April 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1016044859 : Vandalism (Modulato is a hater and has undisclosed WP:COI). See Talk page"
2. 01:30, 5 April 2021 (UTC) "I removed the word "Italian" to avoid nitpicking."
3. 21:47, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1016007339 Vaccara is a US journalist. Italian OdG has nothing to do with it."
4. 21:22, 4 April 2021 (UTC) "Undid revision 1016002761. Added total legit reference!"

Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:

1. 12:18, 5 April 2021 (UTC) ""

Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:

1. 14:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC) on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/La Voce di New York "/* La Voce di New York */"

Comments:

This user, creator of the article, went berserk after I nominated it for PROD (objected by him) and later for AfD, claiming I am a "hater". Opening a discussion in the Talk page has only had the effect of attracting new anonymous meatpuppets. —Mᵒdᵘlᵃtᵒ.📩 12:38, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Can a senior editor take a look at this? Modulato has an undisclosed WP:COI and (Personal attack removed) to bring La Voce di New York to disrepute and kill its WP article. Thanks Passani (talk) 12:52, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

@Passani: Based on what do you assert an undisclosed COI? —C.Fred (talk) 12:54, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

@C.Fred: I have asked Modulato to affirm he/she has no WP:COI and he/she always refused/word around the request. Plus the amount of work Modulato is placing in repeating false claims that have already been shown wrong without showing any good faith in the discussion. He also makes modifications at the speed of light (meant at triggering some less known rules that relative beginners like me may not be aware of) to cry foul. Passani (talk) 13:08, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

@Passani: Having a page on one's watch list, where they can see as soon as an edit is made, is not evidence of a COI. —C.Fred (talk) 13:11, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

@C.Fred: I invite you to take a look at how the discussion has unfolded in Talk:La Voce di New York to see what I mean. Modulato states that a journalist is not a journalist citing lack of references. I add (more) references to reputable sources and he'll remove them claiming that it is not reputable. Same goes for VNY address (they have an office inside the UN building and provide that address. Modulato uses this info to imply that VNY is representing affiliation with the UN, which they are not). Something fishy is going on here. Passani (talk) 13:23, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

So you are saying that claiming "The United Nations Headquarters New York, NY 10017" to be your address (homepage, at the bottom) means you are not affiliated with the United Nations? Wow, excellent reasoning. And for the record, the public source is https://www.odg.it/elenco-iscritti —Mᵒdᵘlᵃtᵒ.📩 16:57, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I am saying that claiming "The United Nations Headquarters New York, NY 10017" to be your address does not mean that you are implying affiliation with the United Nations. About OdG, not relevant (Italian-born US journalist vs. journalist registry in Italy) Passani (talk) 19:16, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

For a couple of years, the article stated that this individual is an "Italian journalist", until you whitewashed it two days ago (by deleting "Italian") after my post in the talk page. And please don't keep telling us that you are supposed to be located in "The United Nations Headquarters New York without being affiliated with the United Nations", because it insults people's intelligence. —Mᵒdᵘlᵃtᵒ.📩 06:42, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

As explained in the Talk:La_Voce_di_New_York, when I wrote "Italian" in the original article, I meant "Italian-born". I had no idea that this would be used as an excuse to justify what seems to me as a fully-fledged cyberattack against the page. Anyway, I removed the adjective, so problem solved. Modulato keeps attributing things to me I never wrote. What I am saying is that it is proven that VNY's editor (Stefano Vaccara) is a UN correspondent (UNCA.com website), that VNY has an office inside the UN building (see more evidence at Talk:La_Voce_di_New_York), so providing an address at the UN building does not raise any flag: that's exactly the place where the editorial team can be found on a regular work day. Apart from that, I really need the Wikipedia Gods to start paying attention here. This page is being targeted for deletion by a hacker who knows the system well enough to trick it. In addition to the suspected WP:COI, Modulato has not shown any signs of wanting to cooperate to reach WP:CONSENSUS. Passani (talk) 12:03, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

It looks like nominating an article means you are a "vandal", "hater", and "COI editor". Oh well. —Mᵒdᵘlᵃtᵒ.📩 13:27, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

User:HOA101 reported by User:MfactDr (Result: )

Page: Prosperity Party (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Neftenya (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Ethiopian nationalism (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Tigray War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: HOA101 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Previous version reverted to: sourced contents removed [41][42]

Diffs of the user's reverts: existing sourced contents been deleted , replaced to attempts to evade detection.

1. [43]
2. [44]
3. [45]
4. [[46] Tigray war added unsourced contents

Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: (HOA101) did not want response and reached consensus as he deleted my message from his talk page as shown here [47]

Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: After deleted my message, I am asking other editor User talk:Eridian314 to help the issue [48]

Comments:

• In the naftenya pages He claimed “ One particular example used by Ethiopianist Oromos, like Dr. Merera Gudina, against OLF.” I have gone through Both sources never mentioned. this statement is original Research. diff is [49]
• Adding words between sourced contents [50]
• In the Prosperity Party page: He claimed “On the occasion of attacks on the Wollo Amharas in Ataye, Oromia Zone of Amhara Region allegedly by the Oromo Liberation Front” as the shown in here [51]. the provided sources never says this statement at all that I have gone through each of them.
• in the Ethiopian nationalism page the sourced contents was removed by HOA 101 as shown here [52] and here [53] and removed existing sourced contents placed under footnote by replacing what words of he think right.MfactDr (talk) 07:01, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

We've already discussed all of this, again and again. Why are you rehashing this with several other people all the time? All sources have been cited, just because your political views disagree with the sources does not make it unreliable and when there are sources with conflicting views, facts, and evidence both would have to be mentioned instead of just picking one side, especially on issues related to Ethiopia and the Horn of Africa which are almost always controversial with limited authoritative consensus on such topics in the both the academic world and the general public sphere. We've already gone through this before: here are a few examples, User talk:Eridian314#April 2021, User talk:Landroving Linguist#naftenya article under disruptive editing, and Talk:Ethiopian nationalism#Amhara Political-Predominance Era vs. Shewan (Shewan Neftenya) Political-Predominance Era. All of the sources have been cited and things that were already cited in the Oromo Liberation Front article have been copied and paseted to its respective article with the correct citations copyed properly. HOA101 (talk) 14:28, 6 April 2021 (UTC)