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I think you don't like " At any rate they were not Kshatriyas" line. But there is nothing wrong in the sentence. Karanas are part of Kayastha Category which have separate lineage from Chitragupta. And they don't call themselves as Kshatriya. Gopals claim Yaduvanshi Kshatriya lineage but generally not accepted as so. Rest we can discuss. [[User:Peacepks|Peacepks]] ([[User talk:Peacepks|talk]]) 18:26, 26 April 2021 (UTC) |
I think you don't like " At any rate they were not Kshatriyas" line. But there is nothing wrong in the sentence. Karanas are part of Kayastha Category which have separate lineage from Chitragupta. And they don't call themselves as Kshatriya. Gopals claim Yaduvanshi Kshatriya lineage but generally not accepted as so. Rest we can discuss. [[User:Peacepks|Peacepks]] ([[User talk:Peacepks|talk]]) 18:26, 26 April 2021 (UTC) |
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You are right, Karanas don't call themselves as Kshatriya, because they are superior to Kshatriya, in ancient history they held the title of Karanam or Niyogi Brahmins and Gaudas are treated as Vaishya due to engaged in diary farming. |
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However, we can't write joinly that KC. Panigrahi mentioned evidences both from Madala Panji and Srijanga inscription. Both are different evidence, where srijanga inscription not mentioned about their caste. |
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So it's needs a another column. |
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I expect, you can understand. Thanks [[User:P.sitansu|P.sitansu]] ([[User talk:P.sitansu#top|talk]]) 02:19, 27 April 2021 (UTC) |
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Sorry for this mistake, but I am rectified now this disambiguation link Gaya to Gaya, India. Thanks P.sitansu (talk) 10:25, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
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- @Bishonen,ok thanks. P.sitansu (talk) 11:29, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
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- You can also look at our article Robert Vane Russell: born 1873, died 1915. A Raj ethnographer. Bishonen | tålk 15:07, 13 August 2020 (UTC).
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Stop Removing Reliable Sources
You removed reliable source from Both Routray and Samantray surname intentionally. First check the sources and the page no. Before removing reliable information. Otherwise i will have to report to the Admins. Your vandalism directly violating the Wikipedia policy of No Original Research. Peacepks (talk) 15:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok, now this source is clearly mentioned about your edits. P.sitansu (talk) 17:15, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Caste Glorification in Bhoi Dynasty Page
Stop spam Edits immediately by adding karana word despite the source never mentioned it. Your edits violate Wikipedia policy WP:NOR. Another spam edit & I will have to tag the admins. Peacepks (talk) 02:50, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
first check Krishna Chandra Panigrahi's book P.sitansu (talk) 02:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
Bhoi Dynasty origin
I have started a discussion in Bhoi Dynasty talk page. We can discuss the issue entirely there. FYI, The third column is started with " According to KC Panigrahi " that means all information from KC Panigrahi book will be shared on the same column. It actually doesn't matter whether Madala Panji agree with Sri janga inscription or not. Because the column doesn't started with "According to Madala Panji. If we don't come up with any solution then it will be better to Quote all information from KC Panigrahi book directly. Wikipedia Quotations actually says to use it in case conflict arises among editors.
I think you don't like " At any rate they were not Kshatriyas" line. But there is nothing wrong in the sentence. Karanas are part of Kayastha Category which have separate lineage from Chitragupta. And they don't call themselves as Kshatriya. Gopals claim Yaduvanshi Kshatriya lineage but generally not accepted as so. Rest we can discuss. Peacepks (talk) 18:26, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
You are right, Karanas don't call themselves as Kshatriya, because they are superior to Kshatriya, in ancient history they held the title of Karanam or Niyogi Brahmins and Gaudas are treated as Vaishya due to engaged in diary farming.
However, we can't write joinly that KC. Panigrahi mentioned evidences both from Madala Panji and Srijanga inscription. Both are different evidence, where srijanga inscription not mentioned about their caste. So it's needs a another column. I expect, you can understand. Thanks P.sitansu (talk) 02:19, 27 April 2021 (UTC)