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As you probably saw in village pump, notability is nothing to go by in an effort to limit film articles. "Famous" is also undefinable. So how do we go about it? If you take a look at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/List of films without article/List of missing Australian Films|missing Australian films]], Ausiepete is doing an effort to limit his compilation. For me the priorities are: Awarded and nominated films, top grossing and wide release (but I know little about this group), important directors' filmographies, important (starring) actors' filmographies, but again anyone could interpret importance in one's own opinion. Then there is the cult scene, of which I know very little. Some people adore B-movies and make detailed compilations of their favorite genres. And the story goes on and on. What Blofeld is doing, is he copies from imdb many thousands of titles (see [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Films/List of films without article/List of missing Canada Films|here*]]) and then by some criteria that I ignore "filters them down" to less than many thousands. You are not talking to a deletionist, so I keep this kind of utopic hope that out of all this something encyclopedically useful will come out. It's sort of and Ed Wood feeling, finding myself in the middle of editors who do as they feel inclined to. I simply step in when their actions complicate collective work, like when Blofeld tried to create all kinds of cross-categories and there was a general outcry and so I nominated a whole series for deletion. From what you write, I am positive that your contributions are in the right direction. Actually it would help me a lot if you share your thoughts on how we could establish that missing column on (<s>notabilty?</s> - importance? - ?). I encourage you to go about the Canadian list as you feel inclined. If you think Blofeld started right, keep it going. If you feel he missed some or included films you wouldn't, say so. I do try to follow as many threads as I can, especially on the issue of lists of films and film awards (not only the giant ones). That's the very reason I keep encouraging every editor working on awards to make lists of winners and (if possible and practical nominees). IMO it's a good place to start. [[User:Hoverfish|Hoverfish]] <small>[[User talk:Hoverfish|Talk]]</small> 18:00, 21 January 2007 (UTC) |
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Welcome!
Hello Shawn à Montréal, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
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Well, I meant that NFB allows for people to view (and download?) complete films, over 600 in fact, through Cineroute on their website, but only if one joins the NFB Film Club, and one can only join that if one is Canadian. I was wondering if, if t is legal of course, that you could download one of their WW2 vids from them and possibly e-mail it to myself? I don't want to sell it or anything, just curious what a full length Canadian WW2 film would be like, since I've seen so many of the other countries. The NFB site itself only has clips.--Dudeman5685 21:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Well thanks anyway for letting me know. I'll be satisfied with the clips at NFB Cineroute. I'm just always trying to get a larger perspective on history. And, BTW, there are a few of the NFB war titles availble on VHS for Intnl. Historic Films, a private company.--Dudeman5685 02:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
7 Wise Dwarfs, ACK ACK and ATS in the Canadian section
Hi again. I found no mention of 7 Wise Dwarfs, ACK ACK, nor ATS in the NFB's online collection. Are you sure about them? Shawn in Montreal 15:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- I beleive they are animated films made in conjunction with Walt Disney. In fact I've seen 7 Wise Dwarfs on the Disney WWII DVD. There was also a Canadian artillery training film on the same collection, which might be one of the others your refering too.
- You're right however. I've already set a princle that this list excludes animation. (I'm planning on making yet another page "Cartoons of World War II" when I'm done with this. Or satisfactorilly done with this.--Dudeman5685 23:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- As for ACK ACK, it was the english title for Défense contre avions directed by Peter Baylis in 1941, according to |IMDB. Not sure yet how "ATS" got in there, but I'll look.--Dudeman5685 00:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- ATS, which stood for Auxiliary Territorial Service, has a page on the NFB website, here, but I looked closer and the producer listed is the UK Ministry of Information, so thats probably why its not in the other list. I'll put in it the british section.--Dudeman5685 04:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
re: vandalism
Since the last user_talk warning he got was from a long time ago, I gave him a starter-warning and thats that. He hasn't vandalized other pages in a while. It is possible it is also a different user using an IP that changes dynamically depending on who the ISP gives it to. This is why after about 48 hours since the last vandalism we give the starter-warning again. Sorry I can't do anything more. JoeSmack Talk 19:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Re: Of Mice and Men vandal
Thanks for catching that one. I usually leave a tab open and refresh vandal IP's contributions occasionally for about 15 minutes, to know if they make any more edits or whether they've gone away; I must have just missed this one. I should have caught it later next time I checked my own contributions list for missing (top) marks, but thanks for getting it earlier :) --Firien § 10:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
- PS I find it unlikely that they'll be blocked quite yet; there usually needs to be an escalation of warnings from {{test1}} through {{test5}} skipping stages as appropriate. There should probably be a final warning (test5 or something similar) before blocking; 4 vandal edits in a row is tiresome, but they were pretty minor so probably not technically worth a full block yet. If it escalates, then WP:VIP is the next port of call, to alert an admin about it. --Firien § 10:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
User Warnings
Hi, I spotted your message on WP:AIAV, I just wanted to tell you that you don't need to be an admin to issue a warning on a user talk page. I personally have put thousands of warnings without being an administrator myself ;) If you want to learn more about our most used templates, you can check Template:TestTemplates. Happy Editing! -- lucasbfr talk 22:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
SharedIP tag
Hi Shawn. I tend to evaluate whether to use the {{sharedIP}} tag on a case by case basis. If, after looking up the IP, it's clear that it is probably being used by multiple users or is registered to a school or corporation, I typically place the tag. Not only does it (hopefully) discourage further vandalism, but it also serves as a message to an innocent editor who just so happens to use the same IP in the future that vandalism warnings may not be directed at them. · j e r s y k o talk · 18:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- In re "subst", Wikipedia:Template substitution is helpful. Note that there are some templates that you should not use "subst" with and there are some you always use "subst" with. The template page itself should tell you, however. I probably should not have used subst with the sharedIP template, but it's not forbidden either. · j e r s y k o talk · 20:13, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Shawn,
This article looks good to me. --YUL89YYZ 18:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Best Animated Short
Hmm, I was sure they were different awards.
Merge and create a redirect?
ShakespeareFan00 00:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
WikiCast
Hello - It's me again
I noted from your webpage that you work in the film industry.
I figured you might thus be interested in WikiCast an attempt to get 'free' content programmes made. The WikiCast project has a wiki at http://www.bitshuffle.org/wikicast/Main_Page
Thanks.
ShakespeareFan00 00:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
List(s) of winners
Hi Shawn, Montreal World Film Festival has no lists of winners. Not all awards have lists, in the List of film awards, but the Montreal scene might be of interest to develop and you seem to be right in the middle of it. So I dropped you this note just in case. Hoverfish Talk 21:56, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Great. Before you continue note I have got as far as putting films from [[:Category:Canadian films] up to letter I so if you could put the remaining I-Z in the tables that would be terrific. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 12:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes I agree. For the larger film producers it is important that a column of notability is there. I would like to see most film documented but not e.g short doucmentary film, short animation or one off indepeenent feature films etc. However I would strongly like to keep the release dates as eventually I plan that each year has the list of films in order of date of release. Maybe Date of release column should go next to year? and then award column on the end?Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:30, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Note though that there are many films featuring major actors that were never nominated for awards if this is so and the film is still of moderate note you could write none or N/A. You see I am really trtying to grap the cinema history of each country of the world by the scruff of the neck (so to speak) and document the film history which I beleive is extrmeely useful. It also hels to understand the period and directors and actors. As the list develops maybe the more fuller years will be split off by year all listed in the right navigation box.Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
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Slippery thing notability
As you probably saw in village pump, notability is nothing to go by in an effort to limit film articles. "Famous" is also undefinable. So how do we go about it? If you take a look at missing Australian films, Ausiepete is doing an effort to limit his compilation. For me the priorities are: Awarded and nominated films, top grossing and wide release (but I know little about this group), important directors' filmographies, important (starring) actors' filmographies, but again anyone could interpret importance in one's own opinion. Then there is the cult scene, of which I know very little. Some people adore B-movies and make detailed compilations of their favorite genres. And the story goes on and on. What Blofeld is doing, is he copies from imdb many thousands of titles (see here*) and then by some criteria that I ignore "filters them down" to less than many thousands. You are not talking to a deletionist, so I keep this kind of utopic hope that out of all this something encyclopedically useful will come out. It's sort of and Ed Wood feeling, finding myself in the middle of editors who do as they feel inclined to. I simply step in when their actions complicate collective work, like when Blofeld tried to create all kinds of cross-categories and there was a general outcry and so I nominated a whole series for deletion. From what you write, I am positive that your contributions are in the right direction. Actually it would help me a lot if you share your thoughts on how we could establish that missing column on (notabilty? - importance? - ?). I encourage you to go about the Canadian list as you feel inclined. If you think Blofeld started right, keep it going. If you feel he missed some or included films you wouldn't, say so. I do try to follow as many threads as I can, especially on the issue of lists of films and film awards (not only the giant ones). That's the very reason I keep encouraging every editor working on awards to make lists of winners and (if possible and practical nominees). IMO it's a good place to start. Hoverfish Talk 18:00, 21 January 2007 (UTC)