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== Nobility in the short description ==
== Nobility in the short description ==


It doesn't really matter that much. Really really not. But does the short description ''really'' need to say that he was a nobleman? It is right there in the article name (unless you are worried that it's his Jazz Name like Duke Ellington and his real name was just Steve Byron etc) and if anyone looks at the article it's right there in your face in a moment. I am not willing to go to fisticuffs over this, but when I think of him I just think "poet" - his other job prancing around in ermine (?) doesn't seem that relevant, and in particular doesn't seem worth mentioning in his short description. It's a fact, yes, but so is the fact that he's Ada's dad too, or liked motorbikes, or whatever, and we don't mention that there ... But YMMV. I'd be interested to know what the others think, and to hear from the IP who is keen on its inclusion. Cheers [[User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|DBaK]] ([[User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|talk]]) 07:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
It doesn't really matter that much. Really really not. But does the short description ''really'' need to say that he was a nobleman? It is right there in the article name (unless you are worried that it's his Jazz Name like Duke Ellington and his real name was just Steve Byron etc) and if anyone looks at the article it's right there in your face in a moment. I am not willing to go to fisticuffs over this, but when I think of him I just think "poet" - his other job prancing around in ermine (?) doesn't seem that relevant, and in particular doesn't seem worth mentioning in his short description. It's a fact, yes, but so is the fact that he's Ada's dad too, or liked motorbikes, or whatever, and we don't mention that there ... But YMMV. I'd be interested to know what others think, and to hear from the IP who is keen on its inclusion. Cheers [[User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|DBaK]] ([[User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|talk]]) 07:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

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Lord Byron was Scottish

Or half at the very least given his mother was Scottish (and a descendant of King James I) and he spent his formative years in the North-East, even retaining traces of an Aberdonian accent throughout his life. Seems a little erroneous to label him "English". Might as well call men like King James VI "English" because he spent his later years in England. More technical term for his nationality would be either Anglo-Scottish or more generally "British". 81.154.45.58 (talk) 09:42, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

He was born and raised in England to an English father and Scottish mother. English is more accurate than Scottish, if it has to be one or the other. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Everwinter (talkcontribs) 14:06, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Byron sometimes self-identified as Scottish, spoke with a Scottish accent and also wrote poems within the Scottish tradition. Lochnagar is not the work of someone who is pure. He said that he was “half a Scot by birth, and bred / A whole one”[1] <- that's a Scotsman, sorry.-86.184.193.152 (talk) 18:16, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, Lord Byron was not Scottish and I say this as a Scot. He was born and lived in England except for a few years he lived in Scotland. To try and claim him as Scottish simply because he lived in Scotland a few years smells of nationalist desperation to be honest. By this logic many famous Scots would have to be changed to being described as English. I wouldn’t want the English to claim some of our famous writers. We should not start trying to claim non Scottish people because they set foot in Scotland once. This is a remanent of the nationalism the SNP have installed in Scotland in recent years. Thankfully that appears to be collapsing now. Byron was born in London, lived in Scotland between the ages of 2 and 10, then moved back to England. He went to Harrow school. He's English.ByrdTallisPurcell (talk) 10:03, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Armenian is the language to speak with God

As someone who loves both Byron and Armenia this quote baffles me as to where it came from. I have no problem being proven wrong if someone can supply the original source but I've yet to see these words in any of his published writings, letters or notebooks. Xenomorph erotica (talk) 15:28, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cheque for Greece

A deathbed cheque from Byron to Greece for 4,000 pounds and decisive for the Greek independence struggle has reportedly been discovered: Smith, Helena (18 April 2021). "Revealed: Lord Byron's £4,000 cheque that helped create modern Greece". The Observer. Retrieved 18 April 2021. Please think of adding this if you are familiar with the period. Errantius (talk) 11:55, 18 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Minor edit to wording of parenthesis under Family and Early Life

In this passage, the wording in the parenthesis is a bit confusing: "... mother named him after her own father George Gordon of Gight.[19] (His grandfather was a descendant of James I of Scotland, and died by suicide in 1779.)"

Due to the unclear pronoun antecedent, it looks like "his grandfather" means George Gordon of Gight's grandfather. From looking at the cited article, however, it seems George Gordon of Gight himself died by suicide, not his grandfather. (The "his" evidently refers to Lord Byron, since George Gordon of Gight was Lord Byron's maternal grandfather, but that is not clear in the current wording.) I suggest minor grammatical editing:

"...but as her husband remained absent, his mother named him after her own father George Gordon of Gight, who was a descendant of James I of Scotland and died by suicide in 1779.[19]"

The article cited does not seem to mention James I, but only "Stewart blood." I'm leaving James I and just editing for grammar. --Hypoplectrus (talk) 18:52, 26 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nobility in the short description

It doesn't really matter that much. Really really not. But does the short description really need to say that he was a nobleman? It is right there in the article name (unless you are worried that it's his Jazz Name like Duke Ellington and his real name was just Steve Byron etc) and if anyone looks at the article it's right there in your face in a moment. I am not willing to go to fisticuffs over this, but when I think of him I just think "poet" - his other job prancing around in ermine (?) doesn't seem that relevant, and in particular doesn't seem worth mentioning in his short description. It's a fact, yes, but so is the fact that he's Ada's dad too, or liked motorbikes, or whatever, and we don't mention that there ... But YMMV. I'd be interested to know what others think, and to hear from the IP who is keen on its inclusion. Cheers DBaK (talk) 07:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]