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25 March 2021

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More promotion of H.J. Whitley and linking of the selfpub site thefatherofhollywood.com. This would be block evasion. MrOllie (talk) 03:36, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Associated IP 73.151.205.135 (self identified as the owner of the thefatherofhollywood.com here) has also become active again to restore Littlebirdie1's edits. - MrOllie (talk) 03:43, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. Los Angeles From the Mountains to the Sea, Vol. 3 Is on the web is a reference to Hollywood page and if you read the page reference it calls HJ Whitley The Father of Hollywood in 1921. That might help you figure out that he is it. Or check with the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce or Disneyland who put up the Whitley Building in California Adventure.

I’m not used to discussions like this, but I assume that the accused is innocent until proven guilty, or are we using the “burden of proof” test here? Either way, the charge presents no evidence that I can discern, and I say, let this user go on with the name he or she has chosen because this person is not damaging the encyclopedia in any way that I can discern. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:18, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Another factor is www.thefatherofhollywood.com is not owned by an individual. It is owned by a corporation. It is no different than most websites that are used as references on Wiki. Also I have not ever been associated with keitrt. I do not know the password to access it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlebirdie1 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this is where to reply but I have concerns of Mr.Ollie. He appears to discount history. I only posted a quote from a Newspaper printed in the 1930's from the Hollywood Citizen. I see that Mr. Ollie has been systematically destroying all information about H J Whitley. Not sure why but feel he is the author of the self published book by Wanamaker, Marc; Nudelman, Robert W. Early Hollywood. Arcadia or a relative of Toberman because he continues to put on the site Toberman as Father of Hollywood. If you look you will see enough reliable information on thefatherofhollywood.com. These are true newspaper articles. Read them for yourself. The book by Tony Luke Scott, The Stars of Hollywood Forever, T. Scott Publications, 2001 does not even have H J Whitley in the entire book I own it. Not sure who used it as a reference. Palmer, Edwin Obadiah. History of Hollywood. A. H. Cawston. This is also a self-published book so should not be used either. I own it and someone lied about the publisher. I assume it is either Wanamaker because he is embarrassed that he has published incorrect information. I contacted the editors of his book and they said it was not their job to correct his mistakes. He would need to do that. But I suppose the fact that they require you to buy hundreds of copies to sell himself he did not want to do that. If you look the Hollywood site and the HJ Whitley site have been there for years. Why did they suddenly decide to vandalize it? I have copies of the old site. I am sure you do to. Please try to resolve this or I will have to take this to the news media. If you look at the site you will see I have spoken on the television around the world. I am not trying to make money just promote the truth. It is surprising that Wiki has blacklisted Britannica Encyclopedia. What its not reliable. Yet it has the correct information. Lastly please check out Mr. Ollie and beenaroundawhile. Think they may be friends or the same guy with multiple accounts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littlebirdie1 (talk • contribs) 04:02, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 Another factor is www.thefatherofhollywood.com is not owned by an individual. It is owned by a corporation.  It is no different than most websites that are used as references on Wiki. Also I have not ever been associated with keitrt.  I do not know the password to access it.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Littlebirdie1|Littlebirdie1]] ([[User talk:Littlebirdie1#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Littlebirdie1|contribs]]) 17:14, 25 March 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+Not sure if this is where to reply but I have concerns of Mr.Ollie.  He appears to discount history.  I only posted a quote from a Newspaper printed in the 1930's from the Hollywood Citizen.  I see that Mr. Ollie has been systematically destroying all information about H J Whitley.  Not sure why but feel he is the author of the self published book by  Wanamaker, Marc; Nudelman, Robert W. Early Hollywood. Arcadia or a relative of Toberman because he continues to put on the site Toberman as Father of Hollywood.  If you look you will see enough reliable information on thefatherofhollywood.com.  These are true newspaper articles.  Read them for yourself. The book by  Tony Luke Scott, The Stars of Hollywood Forever, T. Scott Publications, 2001 does not even have H J Whitley in the entire book I own it.  Not sure who used it as a reference.  Palmer, Edwin Obadiah. History of Hollywood. A. H. Cawston. This is also a self-published book so should not be used either.  I own it and someone lied about the publisher.  I assume it is either Wanamaker because he is embarrassed that he has published incorrect information.  I contacted the editors of his book and they said it was not their job to correct his mistakes.  He would need to do that.  But I suppose the fact that they require you to buy hundreds of copies to sell himself he did not want to do that.  If you look the Hollywood site and the HJ Whitley site have been there for years.  Why did they suddenly decide to vandalize it?  I have copies of the old site. I am sure you do to.  Please try to resolve this or I will have to take this to the news media. If you look at the site you will see I have spoken on the television around the world.  I am not trying to make money just promote the truth.  It is surprising that Wiki has blacklisted Britannica
+Encyclopedia.  What its not reliable.  Yet it has the correct information.  Lastly please check out Mr. Ollie and beenaroundawhile.  Think they may be friends or the same guy with multiple accounts. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Littlebirdie1|Littlebirdie1]] ([[User talk:Littlebirdie1#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Littlebirdie1|contribs]]) 04:02, 25 March 2021 (UTC)</span>
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-Not sure if this is where to reply but I have concerns of Mr.Ollie.  He appears to discount history.  I only posted a quote from a Newspaper printed in the 1930's from the Hollywood Citizen.  I see that Mr. Ollie has been systematically destroying all information about H J Whitley.  Not sure why but feel he is the author of the self published book by  Wanamaker, Marc; Nudelman, Robert W. Early Hollywood. Arcadia or a relative of Toberman because he continues to put on the site Toberman as Father of Hollywood.  If you look you will see enough reliable information on thefatherofhollywood.com.  These are true newspaper articles.  Read them for yourself. The book by  Tony Luke Scott, The Stars of Hollywood Forever, T. Scott Publications, 2001 does not even have H J Whitley in the entire book I own it.  Not sure who used it as a reference.  Palmer, Edwin Obadiah. History of Hollywood. A. H. Cawston. This is also a self-published book so should not be used either.  I own it and someone lied about the publisher.  I assume it is either Wanamaker because he is embarrassed that he has published incorrect information.  I contacted the editors of his book and they said it was not their job to correct his mistakes.  He would need to do that.  But I suppose the fact that they require you to buy hundreds of copies to sell himself he did not want to do that.  If you look the Hollywood site and the HJ Whitley site have been there for years.  Why did they suddenly decide to vandalize it?  I have copies of the old site. I am sure you do to.  Please try to resolve this or I will have to take this to the news media. If you look at the site you will see I have spoken on the television around the world.  I am not trying to make money just promote the truth.  It is surprising that Wiki has blacklisted Britannica
-Encyclopedia.  What its not reliable.  Yet it has the correct information.  Lastly please check out Mr. Ollie and beenaroundawhile.  Think they may be friends or the same guy with multiple accounts.
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