Talk:2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami

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Energy map of the tsunami from NOAA

U.S. spelling?

There has been some back-and-forth changing between U.S. and non-U.S. spellings (see WP:ENGVAR for policies), which needs to be discussed here. I will mention that changing all the spelling in an article to U.S. spellings and then adding a notice at the top saying "now, use U.S. spellings" is not appropriate. We need a better rationale for why this should be using a specific variant of english. Tarl N. (discuss) 20:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

No rational has been provided for the change to US spelling. Furthermore, the spelling was changed in defacto quotations - the titles of references. MB 21:12, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

With an article of this length, establishing a dominant spelling style isn't easy, but I note that "metre" and "kilometre" is used far more often than "meter" or "kilometer". To counter this there is a predominance of "-ize" endings throughout. The article also began using U.S. spelling, but quickly became a mixture. Mikenorton (talk) 22:30, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

I'd observe that mixed spellings in large articles appears to be becoming the norm - with 2 billion english-speaking people around these days, the U.S.' 300 million are a definite minority. It is certainly my personal opinion that under normal conditions we should tolerate any acceptable spelling, and it is policy that we should not go around wholesale changing spellings. I particularly object to the "sp=us|abbr=off" being added to all the convert templates, which seemed to be an in-your-face change. Either way, let's allow the original editor to comment. Tarl N. (discuss) 22:35, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

@Tarl N.: This tsunami also affected the US. This article has also been tagged using the American spelling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Editnotices/Page/2011_T%C5%8Dhoku_earthquake_and_tsunami). Per core Anglosphere, the US is the largest native speaker of English. According to Google, the American spelling of metric units (kilometer, liter, centimeter [1]) are more popular than the Brits one [2]. Ivan Humphrey (talk) 05:46, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Ivan Humphrey: I wasn't aware of that edit tag. Looking at the history, it wasn't present for several years, because when the page was renamed (in 2011) the notice didn't follow (until 2016). It's an interesting question whether it still applies, since the article has more years without the notice than with.

Lastly, per WP:BRD, when you are reverted, immediately take it to the talk page, do NOT immediately re-revert. That's edit warring, which is what attracted my attention. The fact that I disagree with your edit came later.

To summarize, you do have a point about the edit template flagging the article as American English, but much of the content was written when that template effectively didn't exist. I strongly disagree with you going out of your way to blast the full spelling of metric terms into the text, there is no reason to force abbreviations off, dramatizing the different spelling of metric terms. Your edit, as it stands, cannot be retained, you'll have to start over if you get consensus on changing the spellings (at this point it seems to be 3-1 against you). Please also be more careful about in-line text vs. quoted titles, you cannot change the spelling of external text. Tarl N. (discuss) 06:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2021

Since someone already removed the "Shindo 7" for the "IX (Violent)" template method, is there a way how we can add the Shindo 7 back? // Note: It's Aliza. I'm not logged in, so yeah. \\ 2601:589:C680:E00:C4E7:9B9C:1392:9781 (talk) 15:10, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done - I've added it back with a citation. I'd been meaning to do that. I'm still not entirely convinced about the MMI template. Mikenorton (talk) 16:08, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. --a_liza ^{aliza's chat, lila's chat}/_{aliza's mess, lila's mess} 14:28, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

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