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Vikash Verma

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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline nor the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (biographies) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. Coverage mentions him in passing. Perhaps his film is notable, it does seem to be getting some publicity (but pretty much all I see is the usual press-release rewrites in Indian media). All he has (according to the article) is " the prestigious Bihar Government Award for rekindling bilateral ties between India and Poland" (also our article seems incomplete, his filmography starts in 2021 but he got an local gov't award already in 2017??). Sadly, in the current form there is nothing to confirm this reward is really prestigious, nor that the subject meets NBIO, but there is plenty to suggest we are dealing with the run-of-the-mill attempt to use Wikipedia to promote someone (without following WP:COI practices - the account that created this bio has written several others that are very similar, but no COI declaration has been made). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:33, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

• Comment First thing is I am not involved in any kind of COI. I create articles in my free time as a hobby.

About Vikash Verma's article - According to the news sources He passes GNG as he has impressive and enough coverage in multiple reliable sources. About Bihar Government Award-  I saw this on a news article that's why I added it. If you feel anything wrong with it then I can remove it but I feel there is no issue to have this award on the article. Apart from this, You should check all news articles again. Suchayaar (talk) 01:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

• KEEP

I want KEEP this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmartSameer Patil (talk • contribs) 16:43, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

• Delete A great attempt to disguise itself as a good article. Films might be notable as per their coverage but he needs more to become notable. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 06:26, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
• Delete fails WP:GNG and its WP:TOOSOON. Powerful Karma (talk) 06:45, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

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1. I am of the view that the person has quite a few notable achievements. And am surprised and shocked to see that the article on Vikash Verma is put under article for deletion.

1. There are innumerable independent and in-depth article showing up on GNews.
   1. Polish Media News
      1. Article in Polish Media 01
      2. Article in Polish Media 02
   2. Indian Express
      1. Article
   3. Outlook
      1. Article
   4. Lokmat
      1. Article
   5. Hindu
      1. Article
   6. Times of India
      1. Article
2. Upon finding an article in The Telegraph which is on the list of reliable sources, his name is with  Mr. Bill Clinton, the President of the United States, during his presidency, as a security cover during visit to India.
3. His in-depth and independent articles are featured in all the three media sources viz. The Hindu, The New Indian Express, and also in Telegraph, which are under the reliable sources list of Wikipedia.
4. A tweet from the Polish Government (Polish Embassy) in support of the effort taken by Vikash Verma to strengthen the bilateral relation between India & Poland, and also a tweet from the Indian High Commissioner to Canada, Mr. Ajay Bisaria.
5. Ms. Margaret Pepek who has supported Mr. Vikash Verma, in the making of the film and had personally handed over a letter of support to him.
6. Hence the phrase “run-of-the-mill attempt” doesn’t sound appropriate and uncalled for.
7. There are thousands of other articles in Indian, as well as worldwide Media including the Polish Media sources such as Times of India and so on which dates back since 2017 and can’t be doubted. There are new coverages since 2017, even in Polish Media. One More News Article on Polish Media, and also this article on Telewizja Republika.
8. In one article of ANI News, Vikash Verma is known as the showman in India, and when his famous colour(Holi) party cancels because of pandemic, it becomes a news and that can be supported on various news articles listed when searched on GNews, and Google Search.
9. After going through the article on pressreader.com, I found that The Hindustan Times Supplement HTCafe had carried the news in the year 2017, and also  the well known entertainment news channel of Bollywood MovieTalkies has written in-depth article about the award being given. This award was given in 2017 by the Government of Bihar, to Vikash Verma for setting up bilateral relationship between 2 countries not for film No means No, along side the world renowned film director Mr. Imtiaz Ali, and the world famous actor Mr. Sanjay Dutt and others. The award cannot be ignored as its not listed on Wikipedia. This is not the only one award he has got, he has also received a Mid-day/Jagran award which is a notable award.
10. Vikash Verma is not part of only one film and his filmography doesn’t start in 2021, but from the year 2004, where he was part of the making of the film Lagaan, which is showing on the credits of the film. Other films in which he was part of the films are Dewaangi, PM Modi, Bhoomi and he himself has acted in the movie Padmashree Laloo Prasad Yadav which is been featured on Rotten Tomatoes , Metacritics which are under reliable sources of wikipedia. (Source IMDB)
11. There are very many print article available to view.
12. In search for details on Vikash Verma, he is the person who has been on various social media accounts, he has been followed by more than 2,00,000 (two hundred thousand) followers.

My learned author might have overlooked and request Sir Piotirus, to please let the article stay in the interest of the two countries and the effort put in for it. Archiedesai (talk) 07:28, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

A quick note on "Polish media". [1] fails SIGCOV, it mentions that a Polish actress is playing in an Indian movie, one sentence mentions said movie is directed by VV. [2] is a very badly written and chaotic piece (possibly machine translated from English) on some very minor website that almost certainly is not a WP:RS, and anyway it also fails SIGCOV. I have a feeling there is some socking/COI/PAID/VANITY issue(s) here too. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:18, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

I have been following Mr. Vikash Verma since last twenty years and I am an admirer of him and his works .

Let me address the issues raised by your good self as follows:

1. Its is difficult to understand that how a person not be notable if a media source has picked up the content from some source and has used some translation tool. How does that concern the subject on which the article is written? The coverage on the renowned news channel like Telewizja Republika and that too which was covered in the year 2017, are also to be doubted and questionable? Surprising to see The tweets from the the Polish Government are also considered questionable?
2. The in-depth and detailed article in the “TIP - The Indian Panorama” published from Dallas & New York in the United States of America, is also to said as PAID/VANITY?
3. As you must have gone through the article in Lallan Top, wherein the writer has even mentions that the Vikash Verma deserves a biography written on him.
4. The award given to him by Mid-Day/Jagran Group as mentioned in point number 9 of my previous comment.
5. Ms. Malgorzata Pepek, Member of the Polish Parliament (SEJM), Chairperson of Indo-Polish Parliamentary Committee; herself in person is providing and honouring Mr. Vikash Verma with the letter of support and co-operation, for his cause to strengthening the bilateral relations of the two countries Poland & India, which speaks of the notability of a person in a foreign country.

Your statement “I have a feeling there is some socking/COI/PAID/VANITY” is a point of controversy wherein your good self is doubting on the independence and integrity of the Polish Media and the sources which are on the list of wikipedia's Reliable Sources.

Why do I have a feeling that purpose of this discussion is only to delete the page and not to evaluate all the supporting references which are from the Reliable Sources WP:RS provided for the article to stay, and make a judicious decision? Archiedesai (talk) 07:53, 24 May 2021 (UTC)