Talk:Pacific Northwest

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Boundaries

The summary says that Cascadia is loosely bounded in the east by the Cascade Mountain Range, but then immediately says the most common conception includes Idaho. These are contradictory statements. Antigravity711 (talk) 04:18, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

BC should not be mentioned first, it is too much disputed. Canadians don't call BC "Pacific Northwest", as it is in the far SOUTHWEST COAST corner of thier country. some kind of faction wants to include BC in "cascadia" but the canadians don't call it any of the above. Why do people insist on placing BC FIRST on the list in the intro then? since it is the most disputed and least accepted. Meat Eating Orchid (talk) 08:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Don't have a strong opinion on the order but people in BC definitely understand that "the Pacific Northwest" includes them. I was born and raised in Vancouver: it's not a term that gives people pause. —Joeyconnick (talk) 16:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

People in Ontario possibly don't ever call BC the Pacific Northwest, but, yes, people in BC uniformly understand it as part of the Pacific Northwest. It is neither disputed nor controversial here. The only people who seem bothered by it are Eastern Canadians who see it as an affront to Canadian nationalism and then appoint themselves as speaking for "the Canadians," without stopping to ask people actually from here what we think. The term, anyway, comes from what the area was called prior to it being part of either country. 2001:569:7BB7:D200:444F:1855:3E73:EAD (talk) 03:51, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

I wouldn't say there is consensus in BC about the term (I'm born and raised there too). To me it's an American term, that I know is often applied to us as well. But, like this article, we seem to be at the periphery of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.246.130.230 (talk) 22:55, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Vancouver vs Vancouver

i am a life long oregon/washington resident. for as long as i can remember, we have NEVER called Vancouver, BC, "Vancouver". If we say Vancouver, we normally are talking about Vancouver WA. We always call Vancouver, BC, just that: Vancouver BC. This can get confusing. I imagine BC people always call Vanc BC, just Vancouver. And they probably call Vancouver WA, Vancouver WA. Just one more of many differences between the PNW people North/ South of the border. this whole article seems to be somewhat artificially blending us all together, but we are extremely different from each other. Nothing but the general geography actually has any commonality, in terms of US/Canada. And maybe the english we speak. it ends there. Our perspectves are quite different. Meat Eating Orchid (talk) 07:43, 18 February 2020 (UTC) why would anyone remove the above comment i made? it is every bit as valid as any other on here. it isn't part of the article, it is DISCUSSION. so i reverted it back onto here. Leave it up. It gives American NW perspective. Meat Eating Orchid (talk) 19:12, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

I think almost by definition, this article is going to focus on the links & similarities since it's about the area as a whole, although if you want to include additional points of division you're of course free to do so. On your narrow point, I didn't even realize the question you were asking from the title - from a BC perspective, "Vancouver" is of course ambiguous in meaning, because without qualification it's not clear if that means City of Vancouver (600k) or Metro Vancouver (2.5m) - but no, without a ", WA" qualifier, it would never mean "175k in suburban Portland". Similarly, Americans from different coasts would envisage a different "Portland" (Oregon or Maine) when said unqualified, and residents of most States would see a different "Lancaster" or "Springfield". --Brislian (talk) 21:18, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

If there are changes to the article to be proposed, this is the place to do it. But this is not a forum for general discussion. As articles are written for a worldwide audience there has been a general consensus developed in many articles to refer to Vancouver, Canada simply as Vancouver. On the talk page for that article, there is a link to an essay which explains why "Vancouver" is not a disambiguation page. That may provide some context to your question.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:45, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

Vancouver is only ambiguous for people in Washington and Oregon. For everyone else it's clearly Vancouver, BC. This has already been established on wikipedia. People in Vancouver BC are not always even aware there is another Vancouver. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.246.130.230 (talk) 22:57, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Megacity map

The article is illustrated by a "megacity map" which is undated and doesn't state what the source of the data used for colorizing is -- it appears to be sub-county level data for both U.S. and Canada. This ought to be updated. Bri.public (talk) 16:19, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Geographic misnomers

As a longtime resident of a state (Idaho) adjacent to (or by some conceptions part of) the U.S. Pacific Northwest, and an occasional visitor to Washington, Oregon and British Columbia, I strongly disagree with the assertion that the adjacent region of Canada is part of the PNW. It's a geographic and directional non sequitur to say that the southwestern part of Canada is somehow part of the northwestern United States. It makes no sense. Just look at the map. I for one have never heard B.C., which is in separate country, referred to as being in the Pacific Northwest.
Even more misleading is the notion that the Pacific Northwest in any common usage includes "southeast Alaska, western Montana and parts of Wyoming." Totally unknown. (And BTW, English style doesn't capitalize directional qualifiers such as "southeast" and "western" when such regions are not recognized geographic entities.) – Sca (talk) 14:57, 30 June 2021 (UTC)