User talk:Timtrent

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mahnaz_Malik

Hello

I have an issue. I have working on the article for months pervious issues never mention citation only the last 2 months. And I agree I had issued with no placing thr citation. I have now but still there is a issues.

The page says rejected but userplotterof has stated that this would have failed the deletion process. But I can't seem to edit or resubmit it.

I have placed articles written online based in Pakistan and the US, UK. Website such as the guarding, legal 500 and still that seems to have cause a rift.

Please sir if you can simple Google the person and see the articles I have listed. I don't know what more a notable person can count? She has wrote numerous of books and is the youngest women arabitor appointment as cited ? Please if you can review and help me.

Thank you. Njinfo10109 (talk) 18:15, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

@Njinfo10109 I'm not really sure what you hope I can achieve. @Hatchens has rejected the draft, and they need to be approached to see if they will reconsider. You tell me that citations were not mentioned until two months ago, but the review in 2020 mentions them explicitly. The subject of the article seems to me to be WP:ROTM. My son is an arbitrator and more besides, but I would be shocked if anyone suggested he was worthy of an article here, because he just does his job. So, it seems, does Mahnaz Malik.

Does the authorship qualify? Wikipedia:NAUTHOR will tell you. Discover how Malik passes that set of criteria, and present that to Hatchens and they are likely to change their mind if convinced

Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles.

For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, in multiple secondary sources which are WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 21:30, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello Thank you. I'm just surprised. I appreciate your son is an arbitrator but the notability comes from Mahnaz Malik being the youngest ever arbitrator appointed by the World Bank! It also comes from her winning the UK Financial Times of the Year Award. That's beyond just a job.

Also, I do not understand how the author of several books two of them published by Oxford University press is not notable. All sources are not self published but of third party sources and news.

Further she's been noted as a leading children's writer in other Wikipedia entries?

My question is what I do? It seems quite unfair that someone can reject on whimsical grounds.

Thanks Njinfo10109 (talk) 13:59, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

As stated, Mahnaz Malik is cited by articles in wikipedia as well. Linked under.

And the user user @Plotterof has agreed that this would have failed the deletion process and should have not even been placed in it.

Links https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_and_publishing_in_Pakistan

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitney_R._Harris_World_Law_Institute

Information Books and publishing in Pakistan Valley, R.L Stine, Famous Five, Hardy Boys series. Very recently,[when?] Mahnaz Malik, a Pakistani born British, published her first story book for children 25 KB (3,681 words) - 15:39, 12 February 2021 Whitney R. Harris World Law Institute and Dispute Resolution Symposium" Washington University School of Law "Mahnaz Malik is keynote speaker at the Washington University International Arbitration 27 KB (2,785 words) - 07:51, 23 June 2021 Njinfo10109 (talk) 15:53, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Njinfo10109 I very much doubt the rationale was whimsy. Any concerns with reviews should be raised directly with the reviewers in order that you understand them. That us what you do next.

No-one can give assurances about a deletion discussion. They are based upon multiple policy based arguments. If it is a close decision it can go either way, and depends upon policy based arguments only, Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 17:55, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

I have done that as you can view from the messages to the user but he does not respond. So I am asking for help on what to do next? Please do help, I appreciate your help alot and knowledge

Thank you  Njinfo10109 (talk) 01:34, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Njinfo10109 They responded earlier today. They are not online 24 hours a day Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 05:15, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

:Articles for deletion/Asom Barta

You mentioned that all three references in "Asom Barta" article are primary sources and two are press releases. I removed two references from there and added two newspaper registration number references in there with an press release reference. The Asom Barta newspaper published from Majuli, Assam in Assamese language. The newspaper registered with Ministry of Micro, Small and Medium Enterprises (MSME) and also verified with Office of Registrar of Newspaper For India (RNI). MSME registration number is UDYAM-AS-31-0000103 & RNI verification number is ASSASS01389. These references not include in this article before. But yesterday these references was added with this article. I hope "Asom Barta" is a suitable article for Wikipedia. Riyan sukur (talk) 18:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Riyan sukur You seem to have been blocked as a sockpuppet, so none of this is relevant any more Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 20:01, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

draft V1SH

Hi Fiddle. Thanks for the comments left on V1SH draft. I have modified the page to present the V1SH as a theory other than a research topic per your comments. Now I have resubmit the V1SH draft for review. Please let me know any issue if possible. Many thanks. Regards David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidypan (talk • contribs) 10:16, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

@Davidypan I think it now needs other eyes than mine. I have drunk twice now at this well, a third time would be too often Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 19:20, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Fiddle. Your previous comments helped us to correct/improve the page. Much appreciated your helping. Thanks! Regards David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidypan (talk • contribs) 22:56, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

@Davidypan As a reviewer I do the best I am able to do. Our role as reviewers is to seek to ensure that an article will not immediately be subject to one of our deletion processes when it is accepted. That is why we push it back to the author. We want to accept articles.

Please do not forget to sign talk page messages with ~~~~ which translates automagically to your Wikipedia signature Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 07:51, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

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Question @Timtrent : which are the unverifiable contents ?