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2. ['''Research Impact'''] > Just an an example, according to a Cambridge University Press review, Dr Mozaffari's works, "unlike most previous works on the relationship between architecture and national identity in Iran, transcends the symbolic and iconographic interpretation of architectural forms, elements and styles. By incorporating new theocratical approaches to place, it depicts a complex and multilayered picture of the foundation and development of the National Museum of Iran." ([https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-middle-east-studies/article/abs/ali-mozaffari-forming-national-identity-in-iran-the-idea-of-homeland-derived-from-ancient-persian-and-islamic-imagination-of-place-new-york-i-b-tauris-2014-pp-256-9900-cloth-isbn-9781780764436/C561976E69423680FF30DEBFF087647B Source]) |
2. ['''Research Impact'''] > Just an an example, according to a Cambridge University Press review, Dr Mozaffari's works, "unlike most previous works on the relationship between architecture and national identity in Iran, transcends the symbolic and iconographic interpretation of architectural forms, elements and styles. By incorporating new theocratical approaches to place, it depicts a complex and multilayered picture of the foundation and development of the National Museum of Iran." ([https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-middle-east-studies/article/abs/ali-mozaffari-forming-national-identity-in-iran-the-idea-of-homeland-derived-from-ancient-persian-and-islamic-imagination-of-place-new-york-i-b-tauris-2014-pp-256-9900-cloth-isbn-9781780764436/C561976E69423680FF30DEBFF087647B Source]) |
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The sources are independent and reliable. Please let me know if you need more information. Thanks. --[[User:Malekfarugh|Malekfarugh]] ([[User talk:Malekfarugh|talk]]) 00:17, 14 July 2021 (UTC) |
The sources are independent and reliable. Please let me know if you need more information. Thanks. --[[User:Malekfarugh|Malekfarugh]] ([[User talk:Malekfarugh|talk]]) 00:17, 14 July 2021 (UTC) |
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#when they say prestigious, they are referring to awards of much higher orders. [https://www.arc.gov.au/grants/discovery-program/discovery-early-career-researcher-award-decra#:~:text=The%20DECRA%20scheme%20provides%20focused,national%20and%20international%20research%20collaboration] This seems more like a grant - an important one for sure but not significant enough to qualify as a prestigious award that would grant notability. |
#when they say prestigious, they are referring to awards of much higher orders. [https://www.arc.gov.au/grants/discovery-program/discovery-early-career-researcher-award-decra#:~:text=The%20DECRA%20scheme%20provides%20focused,national%20and%20international%20research%20collaboration] This seems more like a grant - an important one for sure but not significant enough to qualify as a prestigious award that would grant notability. |
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⚫ | # By research impact, you are probably referring to C1. I don't see the subject's work is highly cited. The approach is different but I won't say that they have pioneered a new concept - since that too, has to be highly referred to and accredited to the author. [[User:Nomadicghumakkad|Nomadicghumakkad]] ([[User talk:Nomadicghumakkad#top|talk]]) 02:44, 14 July 2021 (UTC) |
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⚫ | # By research impact, you are probably referring to C1. I don't see the subject's work is highly cited. The approach is different but I won't say that they have pioneered a new concept - since that too, has to be highly referred to and accredited to the author. [[User:Nomadicghumakkad|Nomadicghumakkad]] ([[User talk:Nomadicghumakkad#top|talk]]) 02:44, 14 July 2021 (UTC) |
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Thanks for your note. Hundreds of academic libraries have added Mozaffari's books to their collections. Please check out WorldCat just as an example for "Forming National Identity in Iran : the Idea of Homeland Derived from Ancient Persian and Islamic" ([https://www.worldcat.org/title/forming-national-identity-in-iran-the-idea-of-homeland-derived-from-ancient-persian-and-islamic/oclc/890071932&referer=brief_results Source]). His works have been reviewed by lots of academic journals. For the same topic he has lectured at various international conferences including "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-RG-a8lel4 The Association for the Study of Persianate Societies]" and [https://static1.squarespace.com/enwiki/static/5bd54ca9fd6793469ae5f2e2/t/5d8d5ff63e752448bd8d47aa/1569546240808/2019+iranica+program.booklet.docx.pdf State Library of New South Wales]. According to the New York University, Mozaffari also has been also one of the internationally-recognised scholars who have been interviewed in the documentary film "[https://bobcat.library.nyu.edu/permalink/f/ci13eu/nyu_aleph007426235 Taq Kasra: Wonder of Architecture]", screened at various museums, conferences and universities around the world ([http://www.taqkasra.com/2016/12/10/documentary-film/ Source]). Thanks for your attention. --[[User:Malekfarugh|Malekfarugh]] ([[User talk:Malekfarugh|talk]]) 20:49, 14 July 2021 (UTC) |
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K-Health
Idunnox3, previous thread was archived and I just noticed that I should not edit those. So starting a new one here. The links you have provided are incomplete. Please recheck and provide again. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 07:47, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
I have been away
Got back today! And will get to all messages etc. Sorry for such long gap. I have tried to respond to everything but in case something is missed, please start a new thread. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 10:05, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Too Beautiful to Die
Hi, you rejected my draft of the Italian Giallo film "Too Beautiful to Die." Confused. I included several references, more than what I have seen on similar pages about less popular films. In any case, I added a link to the IMDB page of the film, so there are web and print references now, including the link to online reviews I had included earlier. I hope this will suffice! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyingpo (talk • contribs) 08:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello Nyingpo, I see another reviewer also rejected it. Reason is same. I would encourage you to read WP:NFILM and improve accordingly. Also, language is not a barrier. If you have sources in any other language, please do add them as well. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 08:42, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Shiji submission by Philbutler
Hi, Nomadicghumakkad, it's me again regarding Draft:Shiji Group and sources. I went back through some of these and found a Skift report by one of the staff analysts that meets all the criteria for notoriety. [1] is an in-depth analysis by the company by one of the industry's leading sources. While Skift does publish paid content, they also do white papers and key research as well. Sean O'Neill is not a contributor and fits in the same category as Forbes or Bloomberg staff writers etc. What do you think about including this as one of the 3 we talked about?
Sorry to be so brief here, I lost a more lengthy reply. Anyway, I am still scouring and looking to find the right references to meet the criteria.
Thanks for all your help.
Philbutler (talk) 15:46, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Hey Philbutler, very happy to see you back! I love it when I see editors returning and participating again. The source looks great in terms of what's written there. I am trying to investigate if Skift is considered a reliable source or not (making an assumption that you are right about Sean O' Neill's affiliation as a staff writer). Seems like the page for Skift was created by a paid editor which ain't a great sign. At the same time, nothing is returning on WP:RS noticeboards [2]. So I think the way ahead to be absolutely sure about this source would be to start a discussion at WP:RS and see what others think. I will do that tomorrow if you'd like. But honestly, going by the content of the source, my gut says this should fly well. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 15:59, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
You are kind Nomadicghumakkad, I appreciate the nod on "trying" even as a semi-retired guy, finding time for everything is pressing. On O'Neil and Skift, I know many of these guys from my time as a journalist writing for various outlets. He used to work for Tnooz and Kevin May, and I know he is highly ethical. That said, Skift does a lot of paid content, as you suggest. This one, if I had to bet, was done as a focus for the industry, which Skift has to do as well. If you would start the discussion, I would so appreciate it. I am learning a lot from all this. It will help me be a better editor for things closer to my heart than corporations. :) Philbutler (talk) 17:08, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Hey Philbutler, I have started the discussion here [3] Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 09:24, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks very much Nomadicghumakkad, it seems like this will be a good discussion for other such situations. I guess every media outlet on Earth can now be considered "paid" one way or another. I think that for us, the issue is to try and identify which reports or information is marketing generated, and which is organic from the standpoint of authentic news or information. Philbutler (talk) 10:30, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
I totally agree with you Philbutler. While the matter on Skift is being sorted, should we evaluate any other sources you might have found? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 07:48, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive
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Ali Mozaffari page
Hello dear Nomadicghumakkad. I hope you are doing well. Regarding the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ali_Mozaffari The scholar has written 5 books (completely by himself) and tens of articles as book chapters, etc (all by prestigious academic publishers). So I am confused why the reviewers are emphasising that he has been mentioned briefly in 'media'. I will be grateful if you kindly check the page again. Thanks for your time. --Malekfarugh (talk) 20:44, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Malekfarugh , the subject here will need to pass any criteria listed at WP:Academic. Can you read it and let us know which one of it (and how) it is applicable for the subject? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 08:41, 10 July 2021 (UTC)=
- Dear Nomadicghumakkad, thanks for your note. I read the link. The scholar meets various conditions including:
1. [Prestigious Academic Award] > receiving Australian Research Council's DECRA Award to support his research which was focused on the role pre-Islamic heritage plays in 20th-century Iran and its potential to create a more stable Middle East (Source).
2. [Research Impact] > Just an an example, according to a Cambridge University Press review, Dr Mozaffari's works, "unlike most previous works on the relationship between architecture and national identity in Iran, transcends the symbolic and iconographic interpretation of architectural forms, elements and styles. By incorporating new theocratical approaches to place, it depicts a complex and multilayered picture of the foundation and development of the National Museum of Iran." (Source) The sources are independent and reliable. Please let me know if you need more information. Thanks. --Malekfarugh (talk) 00:17, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Malekfarugh,
- when they say prestigious, they are referring to awards of much higher orders. [4] This seems more like a grant - an important one for sure but not significant enough to qualify as a prestigious award that would grant notability.
- By research impact, you are probably referring to C1. I don't see the subject's work is highly cited. The approach is different but I won't say that they have pioneered a new concept - since that too, has to be highly referred to and accredited to the author. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 02:44, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Nomadicghumakkad,
Thanks for your note. Hundreds of academic libraries have added Mozaffari's books to their collections. Please check out WorldCat just as an example for "Forming National Identity in Iran : the Idea of Homeland Derived from Ancient Persian and Islamic" (Source). His works have been reviewed by lots of academic journals. For the same topic he has lectured at various international conferences including "The Association for the Study of Persianate Societies" and State Library of New South Wales. According to the New York University, Mozaffari also has been also one of the internationally-recognised scholars who have been interviewed in the documentary film "Taq Kasra: Wonder of Architecture", screened at various museums, conferences and universities around the world (Source). Thanks for your attention. --Malekfarugh (talk) 20:49, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Rasha Page
I asked the admin to unblock as you shared the concern but someone has to review it properly and the reviewer should request him to unblock. Can you properly check Draft:Rasha Kelej ?Fishandnotchips (talk) 05:01, 11 July 2021 (UTC)Fishandnotchips (talk) 05:12, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello Fishandnotchips, like I made the comment before, topic is notable because of being part of Egypt Senate. But, this doesn't mean any notable draft can be accepted. It still needs to meet our guidelines. Please read WP:VER and source all information that is unsourced. You need to ensure all facts are sourced appropriately. Laundry list of countries also doesn't add a lot of value; might want to work on that. Once these issues are fixed, I can review it and request for unblock. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 15:45, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Draft: YesWeHack
Hi there, and thanks for reviewing my draft 2 days ago. I understand that there is not enough significant coverage in my draft to publish it. The issue I encounter is that the company I'm writing about is French, so full and relatable articles about it are written in French. I was wondering if I could add them? Or if references should only be in English? In the meantime, I've rewritten the article and tried to improve it. Any pieces of advice would be much appreciated! Thanks much. Mathbsnd (talk) 12:10, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello Mathbsnd, French language or any other language is totally acceptable. The only challenge with sources in other language that I particularly face is that it is not easy to determine if it is a reliable source or not. BUT, that doesn't mean that any editor should not use them. So bring them on and we will figure out. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 16:14, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello Nomadicghumakkad, and thanks for your answer. I added a few references in French in which YesWeHack is the main subject, hoping it will improve the quality of press coverage. Should I submit the draft to the AfC process again, or would you have some time to take another look? Mathbsnd (talk) 14:52, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
Hey Mathbsnd, sorry for delayed reply. I saw that this got archived here so took a moment to find this conversation. Would it be possible to give WP:THREE here itself? Otherwise, it will take a lot of time for me to differentiate what's new and old. Thanks a lot! Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 07:44, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Hey Nomadicghumakkad, no worries, thanks for replying. Sure, for me, the three best sources are: 1. Cybersécurité : Yes We Hack chasse les bugs en Asie 2. YesWeHack à l'assaut du monde 3. YesWeHack: 'The idea is to be a European alternative to the US bug bounty platforms’ So two in French and one in English - hope it will be better this time. Thanks and enjoy your day! Mathbsnd (talk) 10:18, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hey Mathbsnd, starting a new thread here in continuation. I didn't know that I should not edit my archives. Very much thankful for being patient and bringing these french sources also in the mix. I will need some time to analyse them. My constant challenge with sources in other languages is my inability to quickly determine if they are reliable or not. So I might take longer to just go through them. Will ping you. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 14:11, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Mathbsnd, refer to thoughts below:
Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 02:45, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Navi Ferozpurwala
Hi, Nomadicghumakkad, Thanks for your comment on the draft. I would like to bring to your notice that the person is unknown to me as I have interest in Indian music so contributing towards the same field. Meanwhile, I have added more reliable sources to the biography. I hope know its good to go. Pls share your suggestions. I have resubmitted the draft. Pakkapull (talk) 09:52, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello Pakkapull, I didn't see the subject qualifying for any criteria under WP:COMPOSER which also covers lyricists. Hence, evaluated under WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. Most of the coverage here seems to be announcements and there is no in-depth discussion of his work. Would you like to share three best sources according to you that gives notability to the subject? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 02:54, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Marc N. Weiss
Hello Nomadicghumakkad,
Thank you for your feedback on the draft. Can you please help me understand what qualifies as a reliable source?
My submission has four citations from The NY Times, five from the LA Times, and three from Wired magazine. Several of these are directly about Mr. Weiss.
What would make these citations acceptable?
Thanks very much.
--AlexanderKopelman (talk) 13:22, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello AlexanderKopelman, you can read WP:RS to understand more about reliable sources. The challenge was that it seemed like some portions were still unsourced. Please read WP:VER. Also, you don't have to give 4 references to cite same information. One (whichever is strongest) is enough. Otherwise, it becomes a WP:REFBOMB. The subject might be notable under WP:Creative. Could you do me a favor? Can you reduce unnecessary references to start with? And source information that's not sourced already? Once you have done that, we will take another look. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 02:58, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Richard Whitaker (classicist)
Hello, is this the right place to reply regarding your decision to decline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Richard_Whitaker_(classicist)?
First let me thank you for your speedy response. When I read "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 4 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 2,377 pending submissions waiting for review" I feared this won't happen before Christmas.
Richard Whitaker is one of only around a dozen people in the 21st century, and less than 100 in all of history to publish translations into English of both foundational Classic (Greek and Roman Literature) works by Homer, the Iliad and the Odyssey. In my view this fact and the surrounding circumstances of his work - that it represents localized English renditions of core Classics curriculum works that both participate in the current world-wide wave of "democratization" of Classics as a discipline attempting to find a rejuvenated place in various local communities while being conducted at the highest professional level as evidenced in reviews of his works by his peers - makes him deserving of a Wikipedia entry. Thank you for your views but personal views can't be considered to claim notability. It doesn't mean that the person won't be notable. My intuition says subject is notable but we will have to work it through and ensure that it is notable because it matches the policies and not because we feel so
Thank you . I understand your point, and I will try to formulate it using quotes from peer review sources Fatzers (talk) 17:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
As I read this criterion which was pointed out in the decision to decline the article,
"WP:NACADEMIC Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable... The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources."
I'd say that his authoring two Homer translations in the past decade makes him notable
a) in general, as it is core curriculum literature in the large part of the world and the number of people who accomplished that is very small, Are you suggesting that his work is being taught at various higher education institutes?
I was being imprecise here - I meant Homer's works are "core curriculum" so Whitaker's translations of both of them make him a member of a very small group of scholars currently working, plus he is reviewed by his peers; as for using his translations, I was able to find a reference to 3 South African Universities at one point in time which I listed below; I think it has to be taken into account that the very nature of his translations being in South African English obviously limits their use in Europe/UK/United States, as does his explicit effort to remedy Euro/Anglo/American-centered interpretations that are implicit in those previous translations, but I would say using them locally in a community they were "designed" for is relevant Fatzers (talk) 17:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
b) in them being produced into non-standard English (his local idiom of South African English to be precise), which makes these translations of canonical works unique in all of the English-speaking world, and makes a unique stand against Euro-, Anglo- and America-centric translations and their biases which did not resonate with South African students as noted both in popular presentations of his works https://www.hindustantimes.com/books/homer-s-iliad-translated-into-south-african/story-032Ls2MmEYfvcSePYXUW5I.html and in professional reviews; probably one of the most notable Classicists and translators of Homer into English today, Emily Wilson, in her review in BMCR https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2018/2018.05.38/ ranked Whitaker's Odyssey translation in this manner:
"Its speed gives it an edge over Peter Green. For readability, it ranks above the foreignizing of Richmond Lattimore. Its straightforwardness is often preferable to the creative additions and omissions of Robert Fitzgerald. Its relative lack of grandiosity is often a distinct advantage over the magenta free verse of Robert Fagles. "
This review helps. If we find more such reviews of his book, we can easily count him under WP:Creative and might not have to take the painful WP:Academic road.
I already listed one other review (by Jo-Marie Claassen) and there are also very positive reviews of Iliad (published in 2012); please bear in mind that reviews for such works sometimes take years to get published (Odyssey is from late 2017) Fatzers (talk) 17:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
c) in having these translations used at Universities in South Africa, again, as one of the only examples anywhere of attempting to center local community's linguistic history while forging a dialogue with canonical Greek literature which was again noted both in popular accounts of his work https://mg.co.za/article/2013-01-10-iliads-african-odyssey/ and peer review (example by Emily Wilson in BMCR:
"Setting all my inevitable quibbles and disappointments aside—all of which must be taken as the partisan observations they inevitably are —Richard Whitaker deserves to be applauded for a translation of the Odyssey that provides an excellent corrective to the Eurocentricism of most Anglophone classical translations, including my own."
d) in participating in the discussions about translation theory and translation practice on the pages of scholarly journals (his thorough review of Emily Wilson's Odyssey translation is representative here)
Please let me know if this is enough to change your mind, and if not, is there anything else that could. Fatzers (talk) 20:04, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
- Hey, yes, we can discuss this here. And thank you for a detailed explanation. Allow me some time to go through it and respond. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 02:39, 14 July 2021 (UTC) Thank you for your time&effort Fatzers (talk) 17:12, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Request on 21:10:24, 13 July 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by AlbertaTrucker94
AlbertaTrucker94 (talk) 21:10, 13 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello Nomacicghumakkad - as per the comment on the proposed article:
- Vancouver Community College is an accredited college - it is a public (government-funded) college in British Columbia, Canada. It is the largest, and the oldest community college in British Columbia and one of the most historic in Canada. Please reconsider as the college does meet your requirements, and is linked in the article as well.
Please reconsider the article for submission as it meets all the requirements you've outlined. Thanks! :)
Hello AlbertaTrucker94 , thanks for reaching out. I am not familiar with Canadian Education System yet. The Criteria says significant accredited college or university. College can mean different things in different countries. My advise would be to have it double checked if Vancouver Community College qualifies the criteria. I can initiate a discussion at WP:TEA for this if you'd like. If other editors - who are more experienced with WP:Academic confirms that it does, the subject will meet notability. After that, we will have to address other concerns like WP:NPOV and WP:VER. Also, how do you know this person? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 02:51, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Hafiz Hanif
Hi @Nomadicghumakkad, you've rejected the article 'Hafiz Hanif' for WP:REFBOMB and WP:THREE. Would you mind sharing with me which part that I need to improve? Najfeez (talk) 00:05, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello Najfeez, thanks for reaching out. Before we go ahead and improve the article, let's have a discussion on notability. Can you provide three best references that according to you helps claim WP:GNG? Also, how do you know this person? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 02:46, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm one of Dr Hafiz Hanif's postgraduate students. I wanted to create a page about him because he has a huge followings in Malaysia and has been appearing in media (television, printed, and online) especially during the pandemic COVID19 when he provided many comments on education that has been disrupted by the pandemic. Among the sources that I've taken into account is 1) from his online portfolio (https://www.drhafizhanif.net/), 2) from the published newspaper articles (https://www.bharian.com.my/authors/oleh-dr-mohd-hafiz-md-hanif), and 3) from his online CV taken form the university's official document (https://portal3.upsi.edu.my/cms/DirektoriPakar/viewDetail.jsp?SID=2BA31508C4CC6494) Najfeez (talk) 03:08, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- I see. In this case, please first read WP:COI and declare your conflict of interest. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 03:10, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Nomadicghumakkad why would this be a COI issue? When writing an article about a person, one should know the person he/she is writing, no? If you read the article closely, there is no indicator of special treatment/ favourable tone in the writing. All information presented are facts, collected and summarised from various data points as per detailed above. Najfeez (talk) 10:23, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- I see. In this case, please first read WP:COI and declare your conflict of interest. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 03:10, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
- Well, yes! It is not what you think Najfeez. It is not advised to write people whom you know on Wikipedia. We use WP:RS to WP:VER all information so that you don't have to know the person. It is good to know that you have not given a special treatment but it will be great if an uninvolved editor would say the same. Since you know him, your opinions and views would be considered biased. Coming to sources, all of these are primary sources. Please read WP:RS again. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 16:21, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
Draft to be created (Talitha)
Starting a new thread here, in continuation from the archives.
Hi Nomadicghumakkad, I hope you are coping well with the pandemic and in the pink of health. As informed earlier, after leaving Ronnie Jupiter's draft on hold, I would like to create a draft for another Malaysian artist, Talitha. Before creating the draft, I would like to crosscheck with you regarding the reliability of sources obtained from the web. I will list out each source here in the form of an annotated bibliography, however, you can read them anytime possible (they are all written in English).
Source #1: https://hype.my/2020/194894/interview-talitha-tan-flu-prevention/ Title: Interview: Talitha Tan On Her Debut Album, Coping with MCO & Lending Her Voice To Flu Prevention Bibliography: This article was published by Hype, a Malaysian news portal. The official website is https://hype.my/. The article consists of 13 questions interviewing Talitha. The questions asked aim to give the publisher a good understanding of Talitha's musical journey, which includes her previously released singles, her debut album release, how she had been coping with quarantine (also known as Movement Control Order (MCO)) in Malaysia with her music skills, as well as her genre of music.
Source #2: https://www.brandinginasia.com/talitha-tan-hunts-for-happiness-in-new-campaign-from-berjaya-sompo-insurance/ Title: Talitha Tan Hunts for Happiness in New Campaign from Berjaya Sompo Insurance Bibliography: This article explains how Talitha finds ways to enjoy life throughout the tough living in the COVID-19 pandemic. Some of her hobbies include cooking and car racing.
Source #3: https://paultan.org/2020/12/17/toyota-gazoo-racing-season-4-vios-challenge-gains-three-new-celebrity-racers-plus-new-rookie-class/ Title: Toyota Gazoo Racing Season 4 – Vios Challenge gains three new celebrity racers, plus new Rookie class Bibliography: This article is mainly written about Talitha's hobby for car racing, as mentioned in Source #2.
Source #4: https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/family/2021/03/11/encouraging-survivors-to-speak-up Title: Encouraging survivors to speak up Bibliography: This article is regarding Talitha's experience of sexual harassment, and how she conveys a message to the community by encouraging them not to be silent. This article was also published by The Star (Malaysia).
Source #5: https://www.nme.com/en_asia/news/music/talitha-shows-off-her-moves-in-new-music-video-for-ineedsomeone-2822711 Title: Talitha. shows off her moves in new music video for ‘ineedsomeone’ Bibliography: This article is regarding Talitha's choreography in her music video, 'ineedsomeone'.
Source #6: https://www.bandwagon.asia/articles/talitha-tan-life-quarantine-cats-music-mco-openup-sonaone-malaysia-asia-spotlight-yuna-coachella-laneway-boyce-avenue-sam-tsui-2020-interview Title: Asia Spotlight: "My music-making began in the shower" - Talitha on life in quarantine, with her cats and music Bibliography: This article is regarding how Talitha started her musical journey, her vocal inspirations as well as quarantine life.
Source #7: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/07/15/influencing-as-a-career Title: Influencing as a career Bibliography: This article is regarding Talitha's fitness lifestyle.
Source #8: https://rojakdaily.com/lifestyle/article/4079/top-malaysian-influencers-you-must-have-spotted-somewhere-in-2017 Title: Top Malaysian Influencers You Must Have Spotted Somewhere In 2017 Bibliography: This article is regarding top Malaysian influence in 2017, with Talitha included in the list.
Kindly let me know the reliability regarding these 8 sources before I can proceed - there's more on the web, but I decided to start small first. Also, you can check out Talitha's primary sources in the Google knowledge panel here: https://g.co/kgs/HKaToR, which includes her Instagram profile, Spotify artist page, and many more. Have a good day and stay safe, MarkieC07 (talk) 17:42, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi MarkieC07, please accept my apologies for such delayed reply. I am very happy to see your continued contribution to the project. Let's go through policies one by one:
- Would you say it meets any WP:NSINGER criteria? If yes, please let me know which one so that we can evaluate from that point of view. If no, let's move on to next.
- Do you think it has three sources that are strong enough to contribute to WP:GNG? If yes, please just present WP:THREE and let's evaluate those first.
- If none of the above two apply, we will check for WP:BASIC. For that, of course, I would have to go through all sources you have mentioned here.
Could you let me know about possibilities at WP:NSINGER and WP:THREE first? I am just trying to save my time since I have a long backlog of messages to respond! Looking forward! Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 07:42, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi Nomadicghumakkad, no worries at all regarding the delay. According to the criteria stated in WP:NSINGER, Talitha was placed on Hitz (radio station) on a rotational basis, but unfortunately at this time there is no supporting article. I think we can adhere to WP:BASIC for now, so I can know which sources are reliable. Again kindly take all the time you need, I appreciate your help and have a nice day! MarkieC07 (talk) 19:01, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Hey MarkieC07, unfortunately I am not having a good feeling about it. The challenge is simple - most of these coverages are re-runs of what she is telling the media and the media is simply writing that out. Can you point out any articles where her work is being criticised or praised? Talking about hobbies etc comes under routine coverage and is not very relevant. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 16:38, 14 July 2021 (UTC)