Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 July 20

July 20

Template:European Parliament election, 1979 - Delegation at 17 July 1979

• Template:European Parliament election, 1979 - Delegation at 17 July 1979 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:European Parliament election, 1979 - Statistics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:European Parliament election, 1979 - Timeline (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:European Parliament election, 1979 - Votes by national party at unknown 1979 date (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:European Parliament election, 1979 – Electoral map at 17 July 1979 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No navigational benefit from the information that exists on these navboxes. The information should be substituted onto the statistics section of the 1979 EU election article. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:55, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Template:EP79Results

• Template:EP79Results (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

A single-use template that should be substituted where used. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:42, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Template:Veganism-and-Vegetarianism-stub

• Template:Veganism-and-Vegetarianism-stub (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not a stub template; unused; appropriately replaced by the VAV Project talk page Stub-Class article template. Her Pegship (?) 18:27, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

• Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:52, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Template:Richard Cheese

• Template:Richard Cheese (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Everything in this template just redirects to the article about the band. There are two albums that have articles, which I've also AfD'd as not-notable. —valereee (talk) 17:10, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

• Delete Very unhelpful for navigation. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:52, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Aliases for Short description template

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template(s) or module(s) below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was procedural close and move to WP:RFD. Comments given below will be copied over. Primefac (talk) 22:32, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

• Template:Brief description (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Description (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:SHORTDESC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Short-description (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Short desc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Shortdesc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Shortdescription (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The Short description template has seven aliases, but the current template documentation is clear that none of the aliases should be used as other templates, modules and gadgets explicitly search for the "short description" template by name — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 12:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

• Delete, to reduce clutter and confusion. MichaelMaggs (talk) 13:07, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
• The alternative to deletion here would be to tag the redirects with {{R from incorrect name}} so that (hopefully) a bot would come along to fix them whenever they're used. I'm not sure the complexity is worth the tradeoff, though, so I don't have a preference for that over deletion. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 15:23, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

  Speaking as the Bot in question, I have been fixing the use of the redirected templates for some while. Yesterday, there were none in mainspace. There are a few elsewhere, but nothing that should be an issue — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 21:34, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

• Delete all. Editors sometimes don't realise the amount of work it takes to support redirects behind the scenes, often for very little value. This template is used once in an article. Most editors use automated tools to add it, or even none when it's added by another template, often an infobox. For the other manual uses, editors can be expected to take the time and learn the actual name of the template and use it. Gonnym (talk) 16:26, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
• Delete I ran a bot called shorty which monitored for {{SHORTDESC}} and converted. The bot was disabled April 29, 2021 for lack of need. The last conversion was July 2020. In total it converted 468 templates from January 2019 through July 2020. -- GreenC 19:20, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

{{Shortdesc}} still has around 400 transclusion it will need AWB or bot work. The rest have handfuls of non-mainspace. -- GreenC 19:25, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Most of these are due to a recent template change and can easily be fixed in the template itself — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 21:36, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

• Wrong venue These are redirects, which should be nominated at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, not Wikipedia:Templates for discussion * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:42, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

  Furthermore, there was a consensus to keep these redirects back in 2019 at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 January 24#Template:Brief description * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:45, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

• wrong venue, redirects are discussed at WP:MFD. Frietjes (talk) 22:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

  Do you mean WP:RFD? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:16, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).