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Thanks, and is there a script for this?

[1] ? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:46, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

@Piotrus: Hello, there is not a script for this, as far as I know. I have AutoWikiBrowser set-up with some replacements to do the changes for these common errors. Keith D (talk) 09:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Keith

Here - below - is a new page for you to do a double check please if that's OK. Thanks as always T.

Michael Middleton (British businessman)

Also

James Caan edits

Can you please revert your changes thanks.

On 2 Jun 2021, at 19:21, Will Burton <[[2]]> wrote:  Hi Alia DOB changed and now live. Thank you, and to yourselves Will

On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 at 18:14, Alia Caan <[[3]]> wrote:

Hi Will,

Apologies but James has confirmed he wants the date of birth to read 10/11/1961

I am sending through a different pic too that he would like to use.

Have a good evening

Alia

Sent from my iPhone

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Burtonwj (talk • contribs) 17:26, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

We only take information from published sources, and the information given is not supported by any references, so I have reverted. Please do not change without supplying supporting published sources. Keith D (talk) 17:34, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-26

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16:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Degodia (Clan)

User:Mohamed Please I want you revert my Degodia- page to its original Degodia (Clan) page I make a mistake I wanted to rename the page but moved to Degodia- page people will see in search results Degodia (clan) but when they open they will see Degodia- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohamed IT (talk • contribs) 12:01, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

I have fixed up the page for you. Keith D (talk) 12:14, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

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12:28, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Ben Bernanke

Hello Keith D! You edited Ben Bernanke. You said MOS:DATEFORMAT does request for that. I think, MOS:DATEFORMAT only applies to Read-Text, not to Source-Text inside of templates. Don't the templates convert it correctly? The yyyy-mm-dd format is used in foreign Wikipedias as well as in en Wiki, and the foreign templates are able to convert yyyy-mm-dd to the date-formats used in their languages respectively. yyyy-mm-dd makes it easier for translators who want to develop versions in their native language from the en Wiki article. Best regards, --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 16:42, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, MOS:DATEFORMAT applies to all dates in an article.

• Publication dates in an article's citations should all use the same format, which may be:
  • the format used in the article body text,
  • an abbreviated format from the "Acceptable date formats" table, provided the day and month elements are in the same order as in dates in the article body, or
  • the format expected in the citation style being used (but all-numeric date formats other than yyyy-mm-dd must still be avoided).
• Access and archive dates in an article's citations should all use the same format, which may be:
  • the format used for publication dates in the article (see above);
  • the format expected in the citation style adopted in the article; or
  • yyyy-mm-dd

The templates now convert to a single format for reader consistency but that does not absolve editors from keeping to the MOS requirements. The article in question had a mix of date formats, including some invalid formats, so I brought it in line with the MOS as indicated by the {{Use mdy dates}} template on the article. Keith D (talk) 17:58, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, i have learned this is one more difference between different language Wikipedias. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 19:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Mohamed IT

Bro my page Degodia (Clan) doestn't show up in Google search sometimes it shows and other times it doesn't show what is wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohamed IT (talk • contribs) 11:16, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, it appears as the first result when I try. I would ask at Village pump (technical) if you continue to have problems as that is for any technical queries. Keith D (talk) 11:24, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

Mohamed IT

Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohamed IT (talk • contribs) 17:16, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

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Katherine A. High

Hello Keith D! Please have a short look over a learner's edit (~1hour ago): is it correct? (some date format adjustments, and a new category) Katherine A. High — Preceding unsigned comment added by Himbeerbläuling (talk • contribs) 06:31, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Edits look OK, though month first dates may be more appropriate for an American person. Keith D (talk) 08:49, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. --Himbeerbläuling (talk) 10:28, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Juhana Vartiainen article

Hello Mr. Keith D.

I don't know if this is the proper way to contact you, but I figured this was a way to contact you easily:

I worked on the Juhana Vartiainen English article, and elaborated quite a bit with extra sources, list of his published books and so on. As I was publishing it, it told me there was a "conflict"/you had fixed the two date source errors while I was editing. How would I get this version in the article, with the new extra bits added without "losing written progress"?

MarcoHamilton12 (talk) 22:40, 4 July 2021 (UTC) MarcoHamilton12 MarcoHamilton12 (talk) 22:40, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, there is a problem with edit conflicts in general and can only be fixed by reapplying changes. It depends on the amount of changes that you have made, if it is small then you can just edit the article as it stands, if they were major changes then just save your edit and the date changes can be reapplied to your version. Keith D (talk) 22:48, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

AWB and Short Description

I noticed that two recent edits using AWB moved the Short Description down below other headers, contrary to MOS:ORDER. This was presumably due to an incorrect AWB 6.1.x genfix, which was corrected in the most recent version. If you haven't already, could you upgrade to version 6.2.0.0, possibly? David Brooks (talk) 16:59, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

If a newer version is available then the updater should apply it when restarted. Keith D (talk) 17:01, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

There's a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser#Updater_FAILED that I didn't follow completely, but it's possible that the updater didn't get updated itself. I believe 6.2.x was the first official (non-checkpoint) version with the fix; if you are already using it, there's a different problem though. David Brooks (talk) 18:43, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

I am using the last version the updater delivered 6.1.0.1. Looks like a complicated thing to do. Keith D (talk) 18:48, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Version 6.1.0.1 was released in September 2019 and there have been a couple of updates with numerous bugfixes since. The problem is, at least when I tried it just now, the updater fails when you run it from the Help menu, so it can't even update the updater. If you know which folder you are running the binary from, you can quickly get the new one.

1. Make a backup copy of that folder just in case.
2. Go to https://sourceforge.net/projects/autowikibrowser/files/autowikibrowser/ and click the big green button.
3. You will end up with a zipfile on your system and, depending on your browser, some kind of invitation to open it. Open it.
4. You should see a pseudo-folder containing 5 files and a Plugin folder. Using drag-and-drop, copy those 6 items to your own binary folder and, if prompted, select Replace.
5. Right-click the two exe files in turn, select Properties, and if there is a Security warning, click Unblock and OK.

You should be able to run AWB now and, if you use Help/Check for updates it shouldn't fail.

Thanks for the information, easier than I expected. I have now got version 6.2.0.0 running. Keith D (talk) 09:53, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

👍 David Brooks (talk) 14:46, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Tech News: 2021-27

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• InternetArchiveBot helps saving online sources on some wikis. It adds them to Wayback Machine and links to them there. This is so they don't disappear if the page that was linked to is removed. It currently has a problem with linking to the wrong date when it moves pages from archive.is to web.archive.org. [11]

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17:31, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Jack Hobbs (footballer) GA Reassessment

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Diana Johnson MP

Hiya, I just edited her page and I understand you recently removed an edit that was slightly biased. I've tried to keep it neutral as possible but been a bit difficult and because it is such a contentious issue I don't want to be editing pages without support. The last thing I want is a biased article on a politicians page and the last thing I want is someone removing her recent amendment to avoid any criticism of her. We have to remain neutral. So any help to ensure that its included but not biased would be much appreciated.

Thanks --Blackwater-Bradfield1900 (talk) 09:05, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I have had a look and it looks to be a little long for a single point, but cannot see any obvious way to trim it without loosing anything or making it biased. Keith D (talk) 09:54, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Hiya, yeah that is an issue. That was the problem I had. I’m really glad it looks ok, thanks for the shout! Just wanted to make sure with it being such a contentious issue, I’ll have a look though and see if there’s anyway to short it at all.--Blackwater-Bradfield1900 (talk) 08:31, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Help to link two articles un Wikidata

Hello Keith D! Could you add these articles properly? Due to it's semi-protected, (Fischer (apellido)) goes with (Fischer (Familienname)), thank you so much!. RossiLeone (talk) 02:49, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Questions on Imaginal Retraining

Hello Keith D, I have created the wikipedia website on "Imaginal retraining". I would like to assure you that I did not copy-paste any material and that I tried to write in a neutral manner including criticism. I have just added that results on long-term efficacy are missing. Further, the site is not about business; there is no financial conflict of interest. I would be grateful if you could change the status from draft to main article Wiki psych21 (talk) 11:57, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

@Wiki psych21: Hello, you need to click on the button "Submit the draft for Review!" at the end of the box at the top of the article to start the process for moving to main space. Keith D (talk) 12:02, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your time and effort. I have revised the page (added a second limitation and deleted two categories). As suggested by another editor, I made links to other wikipedia pages so that the site is no "orphan" anymore. Thanks Wiki psych21 (talk) 12:32, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, last question: is there anything I can do at the moment except waiting? Any advice would be appreciated, thanks for your time, yours --Wiki psych21 (talk) 16:40, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Hello, it is a case of waiting till those looking after articles get to it. If you look in the box there are a couple of sections that may be relevant. "How to improve a draft" gives you suggestions for improving the article while you are waiting. "Improving your odds of a speedy review" suggests adding WikiProject tags to draw attention of the reviewers who have an interest in the subject area. Keith D (talk) 16:54, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, much appreciated--Wiki psych21 (talk) 17:30, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Spaces that are not actually there

Hi, why are edits like this suddenly necessary? Who decided to put a nonexistent space after the comma that we now need to suppress by using non-intuitive syntax? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:33, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

It is a problem caused by the cite templates inserting a space after the comma in the |issue= field. I raised it here and was pointed to Help:Citation Style 1 § Accept-this-as-written markup. Keith D (talk) 21:41, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Sir Christopher Conyers, 2nd Baronet

Please check this Yorkshire-related page. Thanks from T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.112.84 (talk) 05:47, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Carole Middleton

Please check new refs and all other sources. Thanks, u r so quick. T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.112.84 (talk) 11:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

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15:30, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

James Matthews (racing driver)

Please check latest source was placed as a book when it should have been as a newspaper. Thanks again - you are great - (also can you look at — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.112.84 (talk) 23:50, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

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21:09, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Help to link an article WRONGLY added on Wikidata

Hello Keith D! Could you add these articles properly? (Schäfer) goes with (Schäfer (Familienname) and (Schäfer (apellido)), due to somebody added The Turkish article where is NOT supposed to be, thank you so much!. RossiLeone (talk) 01:08, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

I think that I have fixed this. Keith D (talk) 09:08, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Andrew Morton (writer)

Please check new refs - this is a Yorkshire-based page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.3.204.158 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done Keith D (talk) 09:26, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Temple Moor High School

Please check new sources - thanks as always T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.3.204.158 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done Keith D (talk) 09:26, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Robert Lacey

Please check new sources/citations — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.3.204.158 (talk • contribs) 07:29, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done Keith D (talk) 09:27, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Hetton-le-Hole

Please check ref number 2 and all citations (this is a North of England page!) Thanks from T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.3.204.158 (talk • contribs) 07:29, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

 Done Keith D (talk) 09:27, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Alessandro Bergamini

Hi, thanks a lot for your kind contribution. I'm Jo and very nice to meet you. I'm pretty new in wikipedia. May I ask you a help about my draft Alessandro Bergamini? Any kind of suggestion will be very appreciate! It's important for me understand if it's enough of if it needs improvement.

Many thanks

--Giorgia1103 (talk) 11:28, 28 July 2021 (UTC)Giorgia1103

Hello, good to have some new editors. I can give a few formatting type problems with it at a quick glance.

1. The reference tags, <ref></ref>, should come after punctuation not before.
2. Book names should be in italics.
3. ISBN numbers you could use the {{ISBN}} template to get a link from the number to the search page for the book, similar to the way it is done in the References section.
4. Reference 4 - is giving a warning about unknown language
5. May be you could change the "General references" section into prose, rather than a bulleted list, and give more details as this will help to establish their notability.

Regards Keith D (talk) 11:51, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Second Wave Feminism: 1915-1947 on "Feminism in India"

Hi, I added some edits to this section of the page that I spoke about on the talk page. I am very new to Wikipedia editing so am still getting to grips with the basics but I can assure you that I only want to make positive contributions to the pages. I do not understand why my sources are being rejected as not good when they are reputable academic journals from the past 50 years (Refashioning Mother India: Feminism and Nationalism in Late-Colonial India was published in Autumn 2000 and in 1985. It appears that other academical articles have been accepted as reputable sources on this page so I am curious to know what is unacceptable about the sources I have used. Is it the way I have written the information and could this be changed? I am very willing to learn as this is for an important Univerity project and I would love to make changes that are eligible to stay published on the page but all of my edits currently end up reverted. Please if there is any way you can advise me do let me know.

Many thanks

Heroicmernaids98 (talk) 12:22, 1 August 2021 (UTC)