Talk:Positive mental attitude

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PMA

Judging by how short this article is, there is either not enough PMA to PMA, or there is so much of it going around that nobody thought that making this article longer was necessary.

What *IS* Postive Mental Attitude? Does it make you lots of money? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrASingh (talk • contribs) 19 March 2007

Didn't this page used to be longer? Also, wasn't PMA introduced by Napoleon Hill in the early 20th-century book _Think and Grow Rich_? Citation needed.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.243.152 (talk) 01:05, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Book?

He probably was not the first to utter the phrase, but there is a book, Success Through a Positive Mental Attitude by W. Clement Stone, which is a seminal work in the fields of self-help and business literature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.203.194.172 (talk • contribs) 13:56, 10 July 2007

Negative sole link a problem: add positive links please?

The link at the end of this stub is to a critical treatment of PMA. In the interests of neutrality I suggest adding links to positive treatments of PMA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.2.123 (talk) 14:11, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Improvements needed

1. The lead section, as well as this whole article, is very limited and should be expended.
   
2. Articles should be arranged by theme. This article’s second and third paragraphs seem to the same thing, i.e. they define the subject. Also, the lack of headings or subheadings makes the structure of this article unclear and chaotic.
   
3. This article is not balanced well. The coverage of the topic cannot be seen as neutral because it is based on one source only (Hill’s book), so it presents one point of view. More reliable sources explaining the PMA need to be reviewed. This article needs to be expended by adding critiques of the PMA, as well as by citing relevant studies.
   
4. Citations are missing in few places in this article. Especially, quotations need to be linked to sources they were taken from.
5. References should be added at the end.
   
6. External links should be expended, e.g. The 5 Myths of Positive Mental Attitude
   Kasob (talk) 21:11, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
7. There should be mention of how the PMA is formed through the training of the subconscious mind — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.155.141 (talk) 01:00, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Updated

I went ahead and updated the page. I have changed the introduction paragraph some and added a series of subtopics. This still needs a lot of work and I will continue to add to it. There is a lot of information available on this topic, but it is also very much related to other topics already in wikipedia. Please provide some feedback as to what exactly needs to be added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoPro37 (talk • contribs) 14:16, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Negative aspects of the PMA phenomenon

Strange focus on self-help books not causing any damage (maybe apart from the financial loss to buyers), as they are the most harmless end of the PMA scam. More pernicious is the prescribed PMA in business and public governance, with consequences from a philosophy of over-confidence bordering on self-delusion along with lack of due diligence and just plain common sense: [business and financial crisis], [fire-walking "accident" during a motivational event], [collective gross negligence in planning major events leading to deaths] – events such as the last don't happen in a vacuum, they occur when there is a prescribed "can-do" attitude, and reasonable caution is rejected as anal-retentive, negative and lacking in team spirit as was the case in Duisburg (personal sources/sources in German that don't help here). These are the reasons PMA generally has a bad rap. That and the fact that PMA merchants are generally no help at all in an actual crisis (personal observation). I emphasise that there is much to be gained from taking a constructive and solution-oriented approach to life for obvious reasons, but PMA as a "marketable" tag word has become too tarnished since it has become associated with denying reality rather than approaching reality in a genuinely positive way [those five 'myths']. DDWP (talk) 08:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

RE: DDWP, there's a big difference between self-delusion and PMA; you're conflating the two. PMA ties into cognitive behavioral therapy in its various forms, reshaping how one views events; CBT and it's offshoots (e.g. REBT) have a huge amount of research surrounding them and I think you're being overly dismissive. The Robbins' event, for instance, was an accident; people can walk over coals safely in the right circumstances, and I'm guessing it was part of a bigger theme of people confronting their fears. Your source for that looks to be sensationalized to boot: [Robbins' firewalk article[1]]. I understand the basis for your criticisms but I don't think it's fair to judge PMA as harshly as you seem to be doing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.3.81.139 (talk) 01:02, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

CM Punk

He is the longest-reigning WWE champion.

He has a tattoo with the initials http://cmpunksource.org/?p=1515

He also discussed it recently in a radio interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?&t=1h53m15s

I am wondering if this would be considered notable enough a pop culture reference to mention on the page. --Ranze (talk) 01:51, 30 November 2014 (UTC)