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I think it is better to refer to Gruber as ''seemingly gay'' - as in the main '''''[['Allo 'Allo!]]''''' article. Please also see this discussion - [[Talk:'Allo 'Allo!#Edit_28.11.05]]; as this issue has appeared before. |
I think it is better to refer to Gruber as ''seemingly gay'' - as in the main '''''[['Allo 'Allo!]]''''' article. Please also see this discussion - [[Talk:'Allo 'Allo!#Edit_28.11.05]]; as this issue has appeared before. |
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: You'll recall though, the 'No matches' scene in the pilot. René asks Gruber if he's 'one of them', meaning is he a Resistance operative, and Gruber instantly interprets it the other way and replies, "Well, it was very lonely on the Russian front..." And at the end of the scene, LeClerc asks René, "Is he one of us?" and René answers, "No! He's one of them!" at which point Gruber rushes back to the bar and begs them 'not to tell everybody'. It's certainly possible that other characters could draw the wrong conclusions from his general behavior, but it's hard to interpret this very first scene of Gruber's, at least, any other way than him stating that he's not completely straight. [[User:Mickleditch|Mickleditch]] 22:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC) |
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== Grubers Role == |
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Revision as of 22:13, 31 January 2007
Is there an article for fictional homosexuals? He should be under that.
Gruber's Sexuality
I do not think it is right to classify the character of Gruber as being gay. My reasons for this are as follows:
- No character in the show (including Gruber himself) directly referred to Gruber as being gay;
- Gruber was never seen in the show as being part of a homosexual relationship.
- In the last episode it turns out that Gruber has married Helga.
It is true that the character of Gruber was stereotypically gay (by his mannerisms and actions). However, there is a difference between such a character, and that of an actively practising homosexual. The current state of this article seems to suggest the latter (Quote - "Gruber, although never quite admitting it directly, is gay"). I do not believe it is right to label a character "gay", when this is neither confirmed in the show, or confirmed by the show's creators.
I think it is better to refer to Gruber as seemingly gay - as in the main 'Allo 'Allo! article. Please also see this discussion - Talk:'Allo 'Allo!#Edit_28.11.05; as this issue has appeared before.
- You'll recall though, the 'No matches' scene in the pilot. René asks Gruber if he's 'one of them', meaning is he a Resistance operative, and Gruber instantly interprets it the other way and replies, "Well, it was very lonely on the Russian front..." And at the end of the scene, LeClerc asks René, "Is he one of us?" and René answers, "No! He's one of them!" at which point Gruber rushes back to the bar and begs them 'not to tell everybody'. It's certainly possible that other characters could draw the wrong conclusions from his general behavior, but it's hard to interpret this very first scene of Gruber's, at least, any other way than him stating that he's not completely straight. Mickleditch 22:13, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Grubers Role
A Captain would not be a driver - He is more likely the commander of a group of Armourd Cars
This article is in need of a major clean-up! Brandybordeaux 17:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)