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::Okay, this looks to me like a complicated enough issue that it should be resolved by an AfD rather than local talk page consensus... there was an [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Breast Tax|AfD]] last year and a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 May 21|DRV]] that concluded "keep" (not "redirect"). I think your best bet here would be to renominate for deletion, if you feel that strongly about it. '''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 04:27, 8 October 2021 (UTC) |
::Okay, this looks to me like a complicated enough issue that it should be resolved by an AfD rather than local talk page consensus... there was an [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Breast Tax|AfD]] last year and a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 May 21|DRV]] that concluded "keep" (not "redirect"). I think your best bet here would be to renominate for deletion, if you feel that strongly about it. '''[[User:JPxG|jp]]'''×'''[[User talk:JPxG|g]]''' 04:27, 8 October 2021 (UTC) |
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I would rather answer your question here, than create more work for the closer of the RfC. I think this RfC would have been as just avoidable as the first one, had Shibbolethink agreed to stick to the sources. Unfortunately, this is not the case, and JoelleJay is arguing that this group's claims aren't [[WP:DUE]], while PaleoNeonate argues that the page should not have passed [[WP:AFD]]. I actually don't have a problem calling them activists, so long as it's not the only descriptor, and I also don't mind citing WP:MEDRS for BALANCE, where possible. However, due to the censorship in China, balance won't actually be possible, and this is a key point that editors will have to grapple with for a long time to come. [[Special:Contributions/217.35.76.147|217.35.76.147]] ([[User talk:217.35.76.147|talk]]) 22:02, 10 October 2021 (UTC) |
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Geostub badassery
I noticed you did a pretty good job on Codys Corner, Florida -- I have been seeing a lot of geostubs at AfD that seem to be of a similar nature. Most of them, nobody is able to find any sources for, but if you'd like, I can let you know when I find one that looks like it can be saved. jp×g 10:14, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, JPxG.
- I still have a few things I'd like to add at Codys Corner, including a historic map. But it's in much better shape than it was. For background, when I was a kid, I lived in the hamlet of Monti, Iowa, which would fail one of those "I checked the map but only found four houses - Delete" searches some editors do prior to, or during, AFD. Despite the small size of some communities, there's usually some history there: sometimes a lot, like in Farnhurst, Delaware, which just survived deletion. I worked in an academic library for over 15 years, and still have access to resources some editors might not have.
- I'm glad these microstubs are getting sorted, though. I'm happy to take a look at ones that you think might be salvageable. Feel free to ping me. Firsfron of Ronchester 10:47, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Got a few more for you that nobody else has had much to say about yet: Windsor Farms, P and W Patch, and Pine Waters (all in Pennsylvania). jp×g 23:35, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I do see some results for P and W Patch in area papers, but some involve a murder trial and may not be appropriate for an encyclopedia article. I'll see what can be done after dinner. BTW, congrats on your 40,000th edit! Woot! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 23:41, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- "Shit on a shingle" made me laugh pretty hard. Speaking of shit, there's still a crapload of work I need to do on Biddles Corner, Delaware, but that's the best I could do tonight. I'll work on it more this week, with the hope that referenced pieces of the article don't end up missing. But if you have more Geography AFDs to suggest JPxG, I'm open to looking... or !voting to delete, if they're actual garbage. Most places at AFD, of course, won't have four buildings listed on the National Register of Historic Places. (And hopefully this conversation isn't so old you won't be able to figure out where I typed this). Firsfron of Ronchester 06:44, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I do see some results for P and W Patch in area papers, but some involve a murder trial and may not be appropriate for an encyclopedia article. I'll see what can be done after dinner. BTW, congrats on your 40,000th edit! Woot! :) Firsfron of Ronchester 23:41, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
- Got a few more for you that nobody else has had much to say about yet: Windsor Farms, P and W Patch, and Pine Waters (all in Pennsylvania). jp×g 23:35, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
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On 13 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Stony Island (Michigan), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after decades of being a central hub for river dredging operations, Stony Island's population was reduced to a caretaker and his two dogs? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Stony Island (Michigan). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Stony Island (Michigan)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Ongoing discussion on Talk:Silicon Valley
Hi JPxG, hope all is well! I am reaching out because there is an important ongoing discussion at Talk:Silicon Valley#RfC: Inclusion criteria of Silicon Valley, Santa Clara Valley and Santa Clara County, California concerning whether Silicon Valley is a region or simply a monicker for the local tech industry and whether it should be regarded as such both in its article and in references to it across Wikipedia. I invite you to join the discussion and present your thoughts on the matter, as more opinions are sorely needed to build any type of understanding or consensus. Whether you agree with my arguments or not, your opinion is valuable to the discussion. Best, Cristiano Tomás (talk) 05:37, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hey JPxG, Wow! the Powder House Island article is looking awesome! I peeked in at the article, back when it was still at 7k bytes. It certainly has grown since then! Great work, and good luck on the Good Article nomination! Firsfron of Ronchester 17:52, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
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On 18 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Powder House Island, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1908, you could "throw a cat through the cracks" of the dynamite shanties on Powder House Island? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Powder House Island. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Powder House Island), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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ur obseesed with me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.246.71.95 (talk • contribs)
- Your edits are sus, what am I supposed to do? jp×g 23:04, 21 September 2021 (UTC)\
- haha you said sus hahaha so funny among us reference so funny
- Me and my buddies were calling stuff "sus" back in like 2014, but for the record, I do think amogus references are funny (although I haven't played the game). jp×g 23:16, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
- haha you said sus hahaha so funny among us reference so funny
Abbie Eaton
I think the first edit summary was perfectly adequate, but to be clear, the tweet has been deleted so we need a reliable source for this statement in a BLP. Do not restore without a source.31.219.89.42 (talk) 05:17, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- @31.219.89.42: What if an archived version of the post could be found? jp×g 05:22, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
NCMEC
I "Removed line that was not supported by the reference..." and you asked me for a reference? How can I provide a reference to support the fact that a statement is not supported by its reference???? No one is criticizing the NCMEC - they are criticizing Apple.
- It was a criticism of a joint venture that both organizations went in on, and sources mention both of them (including the "screeching voices of the minority" comments). I don't think they would have gotten mentioned in every article unless there was something to justify it -- it's not like they were incidentally involved. Everyone was probably using Schrader valves to fill up their tires to drive to the press conference, but that's not mentioned, whereas NCMEC is. jp×g 07:29, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
Appreciate the response. Your misunderstanding is in believing this is a joint venture. It is not. The Center's relation to the privacy-impacting changes is in fact little more than incidental. Verizon, Google, Microsoft, Dropbox, Facebook, Twitter, Cloudflare, and hundreds of other companies run this same operation. They receive a set of CSAM hashes from NCMEC and use whatever means they decide to scan content on their system, match suspected imagery, and make reports. The Center purposefully remains at arms-length from implementation because - among other reasons - its charter and appropriation from Congress make any resulting prosecutions subject to 4th amendment issues.
Furthermore, if you need references, just look at who is being attributed for the 'plan' or 'tech' or 'updates' or 'features:'
- Apple has a new plan to curb child pornography. Here’s why it’s controversial
- Apple defends its new anti-child-abuse tech against privacy concerns
- Why Apple's child safety updates are so controversial
- Facebook's Former Security Chief Discusses Controversy Around Apple's Planned Child Safety Features
And you mention the "screeching" quote. Consider the entire thing:
Team Apple,
I wanted to share a note of encouragement to say that everyone at NCMEC is SO PROUD of each of you and the incredible decisions you have made in the name of prioritizing child protection.
It’s been invigorating for our entire team to see (and play a small role in) what you unveiled today...[1]
The Center is no stranger to controversy around the methods its partners (NGOs, for-profits, and governments) may choose to stop the creation and transfer of CSAM and it purposefully stays at arms-length. This case is no different. There is no press release and I am sure no tweets about this from the Center. It is simply providing a limited service it is federally-required to provide. And Apple has no other choice -- the org is the only one which may legally maintain a database of such content and employ people to review it.
Your edits to Tsukihime
Hello! You reverted my edits and left me a message saying "removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary". If you had actually looked at the edit summary, you would have noticed that it mentioned the talk page, where the edits were extensively explained. This sort of behaviour can be quite disruptive, so it would be appreciated if you would refrain from it. 2404:2D00:5000:841:8CD7:6427:A34C:5D4B (talk) 10:36, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- @2404:2D00:5000:841:8CD7:6427:A34C:5D4B: After I got a notification that my edit had been reverted, I checked the talk page; indeed, you'd asked a couple days earlier if anyone had an objection, so it was not a good revert in the first place and I decided to leave it alone. My apologies. I do disagree that the section is "too bloated", but I will not raise a fuss over it. jp×g 10:43, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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On 22 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tule Island, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that black rails live on Tule Island? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tule Island. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Tule Island), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
here's the diff: i removed content tagged as contradictory since may 2021 for the following reason: XDG Base Directory Specification is for user directories (except $XDG_DATA_DIRS); this is not about the computer's file system hierarchy as described in this article. which is absolutely true. contrary to what you said i added a comment for my edit, though very concise: not relevant which is also true. i'm sick of stupid patrollers reverting ips on a subject on which they don't know jack just because they're ips: you probably didn't even read my modification! If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. LOL 2A01:E0A:4EA:8C50:1B94:8B7C:846D:DD9E (talk) 15:51, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Hello IP! I'm not JPxG, however I am a talk page watcher. It appears JPxG reverted your edit because you didn't provide an adequate edit summary. If you'd like help on what to do with things like that there are a bunch of people at the Teahouse that would be happy to help you out! ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#0001 17:58, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Wu Dao
On 23 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Wu Dao, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Wu Dao has ten times as many parameters as GPT-3? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wu Dao. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Wu Dao), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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DYK nomination of Iyopawa Island
Hello! Your submission of Iyopawa Island at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Joseph2302 (talk) 10:47, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Continuing out-of-scope and unsourced additions
Hi JPxG, and excuse me for randomly popping up on your talk page uninvited.
You recently made some changes to Kshatriya Kulavantas, reverting the same problem edits that I had also changed previously and again, reverted since. You have changed it back more than once, as have I and other editors. That same editor, or several editors, is making similar edits on Hardauna, which you have also reverted, I think.
Anyway, I wanted to let you know, that if they make the same edit again - which they are almost certain to do - I won't be restoring it again. Unfortunately, my last reversion was undone by the anti-vandal bot, so I'm not going near the page again. It's routine WP stuff, I know, but I cannot stand that: It gives me the creeps, and makes me feel like I'm the one being "deprecated" - rather than that editor's alleged "sources"! So I'm just letting you know, in the hope you will continue to notice those pages / that editor, as you have been. Sorry for the long read. Thanks. 49.177.107.107 (talk) 12:34, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, I certainly don't mind people popping in! Thanks for letting me know. I got confused for a minute when I was looking through the page history (I think I confused you with another IP address) but now I can see what you're talking about. It's messed up! I can't guarantee I will remember to keep an eye on it, but I'll do my best! jp×g 08:22, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
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Jimmy McNulty
Hello, this is in response to the message you left on my talk page regarding an edit to “Jimmy McNulty”. I’m not sure why you’ve reverted the edit and asked for an explanation. I stated “deleted redundant information” as the summary of my edit. If you read the article, it would be plain to see that the paragraph I deleted repeats the content of a different paragraph and does not offer any additional info. I am going to restore my revision. 98.13.56.126 (talk) 01:59, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, JxPG has asked me to take a look since they're still watching the series, and upon review I think I agree with your deletion, although in future it may be helpful to state why information is redundant. Hope this helps, -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 08:19, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
Hmm. This came up while I was patrolling RecentChanges; I would take a more in-depth look at the article to see what you're talking about, but I'm not finished watching The Wire, so I asked someone else to take a look it for me. If they say my revert was dumb, it was dumb, and feel free to override it. jp×g 22:09, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
DYK for Fox Island (Detroit River)
On 25 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fox Island (Detroit River), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that each of the three times Fox Island exploded, shockwaves could be felt dozens of miles away? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fox Island (Detroit River). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Fox Island (Detroit River)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
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On 26 September 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hog Island (San Joaquin County), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that 80 acres (32 ha) of Hog Island were farmland in 1923, but only 15 acres (6 ha) were above water in 1974? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hog Island (San Joaquin County). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hog Island (San Joaquin County)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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- iOS 15 has a new function called Private Relay (Apple website). This can hide the user's IP when they use Safari browser. This is like using a VPN in that we see another IP address instead. It is opt-in and only for those who pay extra for iCloud. It will come to Safari users on OSX later. There is a technical discussion about what this means for the Wikimedia wikis.
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Sorry to bother you. Your name jumped out as the user reverting issues at Apolinario Mabini. I've just spent sometime correcting cite errors at the article, but now looking at the edit history it appears another IP has been deleting refs from the article and the whole lot might have to be rolled back.
If you look at the differences between you last edit and the current article [14] I don't think there's anything constructive. My edits only undo some of the damage that has been done.
What do you think? Thanks 89.241.33.89 (talk) 20:13, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
A reminder to help at the Quad (company) page
Hi there. I'm not sure if you saw my previous request to take a look at my edit request on the Quad (company) Talk page, but in case you didn't, I'm asking again for your help, which you kindly gave before, and indicated you'd be willing to help more. Thanks in advance. Tina at Quad (talk) 16:01, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
A reminder to help at the Quad (company) page
Hi there. I'm not sure if you saw my previous request to take a look at my edit request on the Quad (company) Talk page. In case you didn't, I'm asking again for your help, which you kindly gave before, since you indicated you'd be willing to help more. Thanks in advance. Tina at Quad (talk) 16:07, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
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Correct
You are correct. At this time I am busy working on other articles, and I am doing my best to stay out of that very personal and contentious AfD. I have done all I can there and at this point it is just repetitive. You are right though that I certainly did not comport myself well with that post. Lightburst (talk) 23:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Huggle revert?
User:JPxG, before reverting me, can you see the discussion at Talk:Breast_tax#Redirect? An IP is disrupting the page by removing the redirect when the consensus is towards the redirect and his only reason is "Upper caste people want to hide this totally".[19] I am basically reverting the vandalism here. Can you self-revert your restoration of the redirect? 27.57.177.155 (talk) 03:59, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- I see you are editing both manually and with automated tool after I made this message above. Can you reply? 27.57.177.155 (talk) 04:16, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- Hold on, let me take a look. jp×g 04:19, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, this looks to me like a complicated enough issue that it should be resolved by an AfD rather than local talk page consensus... there was an AfD last year and a DRV that concluded "keep" (not "redirect"). I think your best bet here would be to renominate for deletion, if you feel that strongly about it. jp×g 04:27, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Question
I would rather answer your question here, than create more work for the closer of the RfC. I think this RfC would have been as just avoidable as the first one, had Shibbolethink agreed to stick to the sources. Unfortunately, this is not the case, and JoelleJay is arguing that this group's claims aren't WP:DUE, while PaleoNeonate argues that the page should not have passed WP:AFD. I actually don't have a problem calling them activists, so long as it's not the only descriptor, and I also don't mind citing WP:MEDRS for BALANCE, where possible. However, due to the censorship in China, balance won't actually be possible, and this is a key point that editors will have to grapple with for a long time to come. 217.35.76.147 (talk) 22:02, 10 October 2021 (UTC)