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Personally I would have taken the issue straight to [[WP:ANI]] rather than the Edit warring noticeboard. I suspect it will end up there before too long. -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 19:33, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Personally I would have taken the issue straight to [[WP:ANI]] rather than the Edit warring noticeboard. I suspect it will end up there before too long. -- [[User:PBS|PBS]] ([[User talk:PBS|talk]]) 19:33, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
:I think a topic ban is in order and that requires community support at ANI. However, Ed noted the long term behaviour and this latest was a continuation of that in direct contempt of the warning issed at that noticeboard. I'm far from satisfied with the article. I'd like to see the lead trimmed down to a few good sentences where each word carries as much load as it can, and then have more detail and information in the body, adequately sourced, in a logical order. There has been some excellent work on this article in the past by people who know and have a good feel for the topic. Your suggestion of mining previous versions for ideas and phrasing is a very good one. One editor gave several references of other occupations - miners, show-girls, harlots - using the word civilian in the sense of "not one of us". It isn't just the cops; it's discrete communities mimicking the military usage to create an easily-communicated idea of a concept that might have no word in itself. "Non-miner", "non-prostitute" etc. --[[User:Skyring|Pete]] ([[User talk:Skyring#top|talk]]) 21:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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Personally I would have taken the issue straight to WP:ANI rather than the Edit warring noticeboard. I suspect it will end up there before too long. -- PBS (talk) 19:33, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think a topic ban is in order and that requires community support at ANI. However, Ed noted the long term behaviour and this latest was a continuation of that in direct contempt of the warning issed at that noticeboard. I'm far from satisfied with the article. I'd like to see the lead trimmed down to a few good sentences where each word carries as much load as it can, and then have more detail and information in the body, adequately sourced, in a logical order. There has been some excellent work on this article in the past by people who know and have a good feel for the topic. Your suggestion of mining previous versions for ideas and phrasing is a very good one. One editor gave several references of other occupations - miners, show-girls, harlots - using the word civilian in the sense of "not one of us". It isn't just the cops; it's discrete communities mimicking the military usage to create an easily-communicated idea of a concept that might have no word in itself. "Non-miner", "non-prostitute" etc. --Pete (talk) 21:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]