Talk:Merneptah

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in Ramesses II article it says that Merneptah died from drowning (suggesting Exodus and so forth). But here in this article it says he died from natural causes. Which is it? 76.24.104.52 (talk) 22:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Drowning

To my knowledge, Dr Maurice Bucaille is known to have shown that Merneptah died from drowning. If a specialist would mention this in the article, along with the proper sources. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.129.241 (talk) 20:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Drowning

This may be simple confusion.

When Merneptahs remains were first unwrapped they were encrusted with (salt)crystals and the immediate popular reaction was that he had drowned and was identified as the Pharaoh of Exodus and had drowned in the Red Sea.

More careful examination then revealed that that the crystals were in fact the AT Kunene (talk) 10:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)natron (salts)used in the embalming process.

Does anybody have any details of a more recent examination of Merneptahs remains, which may finally clear this confusion?

Exodus

I can't believe this article doesn't even mention that Merneptah was pharaoh when the Jewish Exodus took place. Isn't that an important fact? Or is it because this information is controversial? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitri Weil (talk • contribs) 13:46, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

First, Wikipedia would never state that the Exodus was a historical fact as that is clearly disputed. Secondly, he isn't even mentioned at Pharaohs in the Bible which is where he should be mentioned if appropriate. Dougweller (talk) 14:18, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

• I can't believe that it isn't mentioned either. Whether accurate or not there are plenty of people who believe it and there are scholars who have written on it. The theory needs to be at least mentioned, whether accurate or not. Regrettably I am unaware of the modern scholarship on the issue so I can't update it, but I encourage anyone with a little more knowledge on the theory and some sources at hand to update it.

How come Manetho as quoted in Against Apion seems to call Merneptah Amenophis?

From the same source on the 18th Dynasty, Amenophois is how Amenhotep tends to be Transliterated into Greek. Rameses II did have a son named Amenhotep, but he's not among that even served as Crown Prince much less Pharoh?--JaredMithrandir (talk) 07:18, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Not sure of having understand your question. Ramesses II did have a children named Amenhotep, and several of Ramesses' sons were appointed crown princes because they died before their father. Merenptah was the last appointed crown prince before Ramesses' death thus he became then pharaoh. Amenhotep, being even younger than Merenptah, never became crown prince. Khruner (talk) 16:10, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

The last eight rows contain the cartouches giving the names and titles.

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The last eight lines of the Merneptah Stele with cartouches

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@WP:MILHIST coordinators: Would this article fall under the Classical period? Adamdaley (talk) 22:30, 12 November 2021 (UTC)