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* '''Delete''' Her name is not even mentioned in Euripides' ''Rhesus'', that is provided as source. I didn't find any reference to a Greek name such as "Ὀρσινόη". ǁ<span style="color:DarkRed;">ǁǁ</span> ǁ [[user:Chalk19|Chalk19]] ([[user_talk:Chalk19|talk]]) 09:38, 21 November 2021 (UTC) |
* '''Delete''' Her name is not even mentioned in Euripides' ''Rhesus'', that is provided as source. I didn't find any reference to a Greek name such as "Ὀρσινόη". ǁ<span style="color:DarkRed;">ǁǁ</span> ǁ [[user:Chalk19|Chalk19]] ([[user_talk:Chalk19|talk]]) 09:38, 21 November 2021 (UTC) |
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*:PS. A source mentioning a nymph as mother of Pan and Hermes as his father is the [[Homeric Hymns|Homeric Hymn]] [https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=HH%2019 "To Pan"]. According to that version, Pan was the son of Hermes and an unnamed nymph, "daughter of [[Dryops of Oeta|Dryops]]". The name Orsinoe (''Ὀρσινόη'') doesn't appear anywhere. Maybe there is a confusion with ''Οἰνόη'' ([[Oenoe (mythology)|Oinoe / Oenoe]]), the Arcadian nymph that according to one account was the mother of Hermes (fathered by Zeus, or Aether). ǁ<span style="color:DarkRed;">ǁǁ</span> ǁ [[user:Chalk19|Chalk19]] ([[user_talk:Chalk19|talk]]) 13:40, 23 November 2021 (UTC) |
*:PS. A source mentioning a nymph as mother of Pan and Hermes as his father is the [[Homeric Hymns|Homeric Hymn]] [https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=HH%2019 "To Pan"]. According to that version, Pan was the son of Hermes and an unnamed nymph, "daughter of [[Dryops of Oeta|Dryops]]". The name Orsinoe (''Ὀρσινόη'') doesn't appear anywhere. Maybe there is a confusion with ''Οἰνόη'' ([[Oenoe (mythology)|Oinoe / Oenoe]]), the Arcadian nymph that according to one account was the mother of Hermes (fathered by Zeus, or Aether). ǁ<span style="color:DarkRed;">ǁǁ</span> ǁ [[user:Chalk19|Chalk19]] ([[user_talk:Chalk19|talk]]) 13:40, 23 November 2021 (UTC) |
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:::{{re|Chalk19}} there is a mention of Orsinoe as mother of Pan in [https://books.google.gr/books?id=_R0-AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA89&dq=Orsinoe&hl=el&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjOw7L2jbP0AhUCSfEDHT84AOYQ6AF6BAgCEAI#v=onepage&q=Orsinoe&f=false Euripidi Rhesus: cum scholiis antiquis], so it is better to incorporate the name as an alternative of [[Oinoe]]. |
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:::{{quote|Cui eandem, cave, habeas eam, que deinceps lin. 6 commemoratur Ὀρσινόη Nympha. Potius conferendus Pausanias viii, 30, 3. καὶ ἄγαλμα Πανός, λίθου πεποιημένον, ἐπίκλησις δὲ Σινόεις ἐστὶν αὐτῷ, τὴν τε ἐπίκλισην γενέσθαι τῷ Πανὶ ἀπὸ Νύμφης Σινόης <br>Facili quidem coniectura Siebelis ad Pausan. T.iii. p.295 pro Σινόεις et Σινόης legendum dicit Οἰνόεις et Οἰνόης. Sed ut dubites, efficit scholiasta Rhesi apud quem Pausaniae aut hunc locum corruptum videri. Neque enim dubito, quin eandem matrem et Pausanias et Rhesi iterpres significaverit. Ὀρσινόην verum videtur nomen, et recte fortasse explicat Welckerus (de Cyclo p. 323 not. 532), ita appellatam esse autumans propter τὰ Πανικὰ κινήματα.}}--[[User:Ah3kal|Ah3kal]] ([[User talk:Ah3kal|talk]]) 08:58, 25 November 2021 (UTC) |
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Seemingly non-notable character in Greek mythology. I wasn't able to find any sources via multiple searches. JackFromWisconsin (talk | contribs) 15:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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- Merge & re-direct, to Pan_(god)#Parentage, both this article and the available sources[1] only describe her in this context. SailingInABathTub (talk) 17:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Her name is not even mentioned in Euripides' Rhesus, that is provided as source. I didn't find any reference to a Greek name such as "Ὀρσινόη". ǁǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 09:38, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
- PS. A source mentioning a nymph as mother of Pan and Hermes as his father is the Homeric Hymn "To Pan". According to that version, Pan was the son of Hermes and an unnamed nymph, "daughter of Dryops". The name Orsinoe (Ὀρσινόη) doesn't appear anywhere. Maybe there is a confusion with Οἰνόη (Oinoe / Oenoe), the Arcadian nymph that according to one account was the mother of Hermes (fathered by Zeus, or Aether). ǁǁǁ ǁ Chalk19 (talk) 13:40, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Chalk19: there is a mention of Orsinoe as mother of Pan in Euripidi Rhesus: cum scholiis antiquis, so it is better to incorporate the name as an alternative of Oinoe.
--Ah3kal (talk) 08:58, 25 November 2021 (UTC)Cui eandem, cave, habeas eam, que deinceps lin. 6 commemoratur Ὀρσινόη Nympha. Potius conferendus Pausanias viii, 30, 3. καὶ ἄγαλμα Πανός, λίθου πεποιημένον, ἐπίκλησις δὲ Σινόεις ἐστὶν αὐτῷ, τὴν τε ἐπίκλισην γενέσθαι τῷ Πανὶ ἀπὸ Νύμφης Σινόης
Facili quidem coniectura Siebelis ad Pausan. T.iii. p.295 pro Σινόεις et Σινόης legendum dicit Οἰνόεις et Οἰνόης. Sed ut dubites, efficit scholiasta Rhesi apud quem Pausaniae aut hunc locum corruptum videri. Neque enim dubito, quin eandem matrem et Pausanias et Rhesi iterpres significaverit. Ὀρσινόην verum videtur nomen, et recte fortasse explicat Welckerus (de Cyclo p. 323 not. 532), ita appellatam esse autumans propter τὰ Πανικὰ κινήματα.