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Suggested sources re female serial killers…

Both this article (which is actually a book excerpt) and the published scholarly works it cites could be added here. They suggest some major revisions to the "Women" section.

“When Healers Do Harm: Women Serial Killers in the Health Care Industry | The Walrus.” 2021. February 10, 2021. https://thewalrus.ca/when-healers-do-harm-women-serial-killers-in-the-health-care-industry/.

--Carwil (talk) 13:50, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Caught this on my watchlist while on the wiki for a bit. I don't have any great knowledge on this topic, man, so bear with me. Knowing my sister (you maybe knew her as Flyer22) watched this page, I'll only offer my two cents before disappearing again for the gods know how long.

The ref is a media source and it's mostly speculation. I know sister would say to not give undue weight to it because of that. I get it too. Looking over some of the refs on the page and knowing about others out there (academic options too), I'm gonna say we really shouldn't make female serial killers look as prolific as male serial killers. In general, there are many more male killers than female killers. For crime in general too, it's more males than females. So to no one's surprise, it's the same for extreme topics like serial killers. If gauging this, I think that the most space we should give the "healers" ref, if it's included, is a paragraph. Like maybe put it in the section about medical professionals. It doesn't call for major revisions to the female section. It just doesn't. That's what I say.

Be well. Halo Jerk1 (talk) 02:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"relevant discussion may be found on the talk page"

I've tagged the section on the organized/disorganized dichotomy for NPOV, as this is a much more controversial idea than the section makes it sound. Synthesizing the literature into a Wikipedia-friendly form isn't quite in my ability for the moment, hence I haven't gone and fixed it myself. I hope to work on it at some point, but for the time being, there's the tag if anyone ever actually acknowledges them. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 00:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Black serial killers

Vaticidalprophet, you made your edits.[1][2]

A user objected.[3]

You rolled back to your version.[4]

I objected.[5][6]

Okay. Let's discuss. When you made your edits, you directed people to WP:SPS, but WP:SPS also says, "Exercise caution when using such sources: if the information in question is suitable for inclusion, someone else will probably have published it in independent reliable sources."

So what better sources do you have for us to say that most serial killers in the U.S. are black? Seems dubious. I just looked in the archives and saw that it's been disputed. The section already talks about black serial killers in the U.S., and it's done more neutrally. So what do we need your edits for? We shouldn't report on this in Wiki's voice anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RandoBanks (talk • contribs) 10:13, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Irrelevant link in Visionary section

In the blurb about Herbert Mullin, there is a reference to the "Big One," a colloquial name for a future large earthquake on the San Andreas Fault. But it is linked to the article about Megathrust earthquakes. The San Andreas is a transform (strike-slip) fault and will not produce a Megathrust earthquake. I'll leave the link alone, mainly because I don't know if there is a more appropriate one. The link should maybe just be removed, though. Angiest (talk) 15:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 So what better sources do you have for us to say that most serial killers in the U.S. are black? Seems dubious. I just looked in the archives and saw that it's been disputed. The section already talks about black serial killers in the U.S., and it's done more neutrally. So what do we need your edits for? We shouldn't report on this in Wiki's voice anyway.  <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:RandoBanks|RandoBanks]] ([[User talk:RandoBanks#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RandoBanks|contribs]]) 10:13, 6 March 2021 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+== Irrelevant link in Visionary section ==
+In the blurb about Herbert Mullin, there is a reference to the "Big One," a colloquial name for a future large earthquake on the San Andreas Fault. But it is linked to the article about Megathrust earthquakes. The San Andreas is a transform (strike-slip) fault and will not produce a Megathrust earthquake. I'll leave the link alone, mainly because I don't know if there is a more appropriate one. The link should maybe just be removed, though. [[User:Angiest|Angiest]] ([[User talk:Angiest|talk]]) 15:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)