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Hello, Blueboar.

On 18 Oct. I made several changes to the Freemasonry article - and I notice that you have reverted all of them. The action that is most puzzling is the removal of "(UGLE)" after the first use on "United Grand Lodge of England" in the first sentence of the second paragraph under Organisation | Grand Lodges. United Grand Lodge of England (with hyperlink) is used in full two sentences later, and without hyperlink four paragraphs later. Oddly, after creating the acronym, the full expression is used in Schism - with hyperlink in the first paragraph, and without hyperlink in the third and sixth paragraphs; in the fourth paragraph under Freemasonry and women, but with hyperlink in the fifth paragraph.

The generally accepted principle is that the acronym is presented after the first use of the full expression, and used regularly thereafter; such is the case for "GLE" in the fourth paragraph under History | Origins - though GLE is used only once, so was there really any point in creating an acronym? The final sentence mentions "United Grand Lodge of England (UGLE)" - 16 paragraphs after its first use!

There are other anomalies:

• Under Prince Hall Freemasonry, mention is made of the "Premier Grand Lodge of England (GLE)" ... should the acronym be "PGLE"? Or should "Premier" be "premier" (as in "the first")? Perhaps "Premier" should be deleted?
  
• The article refers to the Grand Lodge of Scotland and the Grand Lodge of Ireland (under Organisation | Grand Lodges) ... and both are mentioned 15 paragraphs later (under History | Origins) and again three paragraphs later (under History | North America) - so, to be consistent with "GLE", shouldn't they have their own acronyms (GLS and GLI respectively)?

This should be sufficient to indicate that this is a dog's breakfast, and that the consistency can be improved. It may be that this is not Wikipedia's way ... can you enlighten me?
Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 03:24, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

My take is that the article over uses acronyms. They are not needed at all, unless multiple grand lodges with similar names are mentioned within a short span in the same section (in which case, they can help the reader differentiate between them). I will take another look at the article and try to clean it up. Blueboar (talk) 11:30, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

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Well said B. Thanks for sending my into the weekend with a smile on my face :-D Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 21:28, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

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