Talk:Jagger–Richards

Requested move 31 January 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved to "Jagger–Richards", as per general agreement that it is a better title.(non-admin closure) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:00, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

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Jagger/Richards → Jagger and Richards – A query has been raised at Talk:The_Rolling_Stones regarding the use of Jagger/Richards to identify the songwriting partnership. A suggestion has been put forward to use Jagger–Richards instead, and this has some merit. However, on looking into the matter, I note that Jagger and Richards is currently the most common way in sources, including the band's own albums, to identify the partnership, and Foo and Foo or Foo & Foo is the most common article name used on Wikipedia to identify articles on songwriting partnerships. I feel both Jagger–Richards and Jagger and Richards have merit, while Jagger/Richards is problematic as it is rarely used these days, and - as pointed out on Talk:The_Rolling_Stones - is incorrect usage. As Jagger and Richards is currently commonly used, is consistent with the majority of such articles on Wikipedia, and has the benefit of being able to be used in flowing prose, as in the opening paragraph of The Rolling Stones, that is the one I am suggesting we use. SilkTork (talk) 17:18, 31 January 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:10, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: This reminds me of the discussion recorded here, following which Coverdale•Page ended up at Coverdale–Page. On the other hand, there is also Page and Plant. —BarrelProof (talk) 20:20, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
• Seeing as a punctuation mark has been the preferred option (here and in the likes of Category:Songs written by Jagger/Richards and the Stones song articles), I favour "Jagger–Richards", which would be consistent with partnerships such as Lennon–McCartney and Holland–Dozier–Holland. It surprises me that a slash (= solidus) was ever used on Wikipedia, because, strictly speaking, it's not the correct form in this context. Having done quite a bit of work recently at the Aftermath album article, and dusted off the Stones biographies I own (by Philip Norman, Stephen Davis, Victor Bockris, Chris Salewicz, Barbara Charone), I'm pretty sure they all refer to "Jagger–Richards songs". I'm not saying one won't find mentions of "Jagger/Richards" in Stones literature, as in some of their artwork no doubt, but further to BarrelProof's Coverdale•Page example, I suggest that could just be a design affectation, if not incorrect usage of punctuation markup that we need not faithfully reproduce. JG66 (talk) 02:16, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

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