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Exclusively-voice actors don't get much publicity as a rule. Dulcie is not the exception, so WP:GNG is not satisfied. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:19, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete when the first reference in an article is literally a link to the subject's resume it is not looking good for notability, and things do not really improve from there.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:55, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Please don't list real people at the "list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions". --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:06, 22 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep while I don't deny that this is a poor article, I believe this person might meet WP:NACTOR #1. They appear to have significant roles as Smoker in One Piece, Kohji Takao in Neon Genesis Evangelion, Toshizo Hijikata in Golden Kamuy, and Doppo Orochi in Baki the Grappler. Link20XX (talk) 19:15, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes the subject specific guideline for voice actors, as Link20xx has stated. Dream Focus 14:08, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Basically no sources to establish notability. Esw01407 (talk) 15:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not sure the "no sources" part is correct. The roles above do establish notability under the SNG, and if you want sources for those, I have some (secondary sources even) [1] [2] [3] [4]. Link20XX (talk) 23:38, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think we need to stop applying actor criteria #1 to voice actors directly. Either that or we need to come up with a better more restricted understanding of "significant" in roles. There was a time when voice actors in some productions were not even credited. If people are not credited assuming they get notability from the role makes no sense. The rule was written on the assumption that the nature of the performance makes the person doing the performance in a significant way recognized for doing so. This happens in live action, it happens much less so in voice acting. Even less so when the voice acting is not connected with the original production but a new language production of the work.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:03, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Delete''' Basically no sources to establish notability. [[User:Esw01407|Esw01407]] ([[User talk:Esw01407|talk]]) 15:05, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 **I'm not sure the "no sources" part is correct. The roles above do establish notability under the SNG, and if you want sources for those, I have some (secondary sources even) [https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/preview-guide/2018/fall/golden-kamuy-season-2/.137891] [https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-10-04/funimation-unveils-evangelion-3.0-english-dub-cast] [https://www.ign.com/articles/2006/05/25/baki-the-grappler-round-6-king-hanma] [https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/movies/One-Piece-Stampede/Smoker/]. [[User:Link20XX|Link20XX]] ([[User talk:Link20XX|talk]]) 23:38, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
+*'''Comment''' I think we need to stop applying actor criteria #1 to voice actors directly. Either that or we need to come up with a better more restricted understanding of "significant" in roles. There was a time when voice actors in some productions were not even credited. If people are not credited assuming they get notability from the role makes no sense. The rule was written on the assumption that the nature of the performance makes the person doing the performance in a significant way recognized for doing so. This happens in live action, it happens much less so in voice acting. Even less so when the voice acting is not connected with the original production but a new language production of the work.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 14:03, 25 January 2022 (UTC)