Talk:Cave of the Patriarchs

First transaction mentioned or discussed is before this event in Genesis 17

In Genesis 17, God twice mentions that male babies can be bought from outside the family, circumcised on the 8th day, no doubt to expedite growth of the movement. Fact it is mentioned twice in same chapter is curious. To add i also wonder if the blood libel stems from the concept of buying outside the family, and the obviously messy circumcisions! "and Abraham's purchase of Machpelah is the first commercial transaction mentioned." So in principle the above is not accurate. Or perhaps a caveat should be added, as in the above is the first completed transaction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coldcall (talk • contribs) 18:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 November 2020

The sentence about the death of Rebecca is unsubstantiated and wrong. The Bible never says that Rebecca outlived her husband. Change that detail please. 199.203.227.29 (talk) 07:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 08:16, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done Since the present sentence is also unsourced, and Jewish tradition indeed disagrees with that statement, I have removed it. Better have a correct unsourced statement than an incorrect one. Debresser (talk) 11:57, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Christianity

Why isn’t Christianity mentioned under the Religions tab? It is a their holy site as well. N160JG (talk) 22:48, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Reference necessary: Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 July 2021

Change: The following statement under etymology section should be changed: in the current article it states "Rabbi Yitzḥak said: "The city is called Kiryat Ha'Arba, the city of four, because it is the city of the four couples buried there: Adam and Eve, Abraham and Sarah, Isaac and Rebecca, and Jacob and Leah.". This is a reference to an argument, conjecture or commentary. In keeping with biblical references to Kiriath Arba, the use of the word is referenced here:https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joshua+14%3A15&version=NKJV "And the name of Hebron formerly was Kirjath Arba (Arba was the greatest man among the Anakim). Then the land had rest from war." Biblehead (talk) 11:49, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: This appear to be original research. Please provide a secondary source that discusses this second interpretation. Also consider whether that passage is really relevant to this article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:38, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 December 2021

"In 1994, the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre occurred at the Ibrahimi Mosque, in which an armed Israeli settler entered the complex on the Jewish holiday of Purim—which had occurred during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan—and opened fire on Palestinian Muslims who had gathered to pray at the site, killing 29 people, including children, and wounding over 125."

Change to:

"In 1968, a hand-grenade was thrown on the stairway leading to the tomb on 9 October; 47 Israelis were injured, 8 seriously.[48][49] On 4 November, a large explosion went off near the gate to the compound and 6 people, Jews and Arabs, were wounded.[49] On Yom Kippur eve, 3 October 1976, an Arab mob destroyed several Torah scrolls and prayer books at the tomb.[50] In May 1980, an attack on Jewish worshippers returning from prayers at the tomb left 6 dead and 17 wounded.[51] In 1994, Boruch Goldstein entered the Ibrahimi Mosque, and opened fire, killing 29 people, and injuring ~125, after which he was beaten to death by an Arab mob."

All of the necessary references are in the section entitled "Israel". Helpfulguy101 (talk) 00:36, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done All of this material is in the article already. Zero^talk 04:10, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 January 2022

Amend "although most historians believe the Abraham-Isaac-Jacob narrative to be primarily mythological" to the more appropriate "although some historians believe the Abraham-Isaac-Jacob narrative to be primarily mythological". 47.184.192.158 (talk) 06:00, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:37, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 January 2022

Amend:

<ref name="BAR">{{cite web |url=https://members.bib-arch.org/biblical-archaeology-review/11/03/01 |title=Patriarchal Burial Site Explored for First Time in 700 Years |author=Nancy Miller |date=May–June 1985 |publisher=Biblical Archaeology Society |access-date=30 November 2018 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20181130202230/https://members.bib-arch.org/biblical-archaeology-review/11/03/01 |archive-date=30 November 2018 |url-status=live}}</ref>

to point to the landing page for the actual article being cited using:

<ref name="BAR">{{cite web |url=https://www.baslibrary.org/biblical-archaeology-review/11/3/1 |title=Patriarchal Burial Site Explored for First Time in 700 Years |author=Nancy Miller |date=May–June 1985 |publisher=Biblical Archaeology Society |access-date=21 January 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210310071640/https://www.baslibrary.org/biblical-archaeology-review/11/3/1 |archive-date=10 March 2021 |url-status=live}}</ref>

I used <nowiki> tags in order to get the reference's source to show instead of a rendered citation. That may need a tiny bit of adjustment when implementing this edit request. I'm not familiar with how that works.

The original link puts the user on a list of issues of Biblical Archaeology Review for the most recently published year. To get from there to the article I had to change a listbox to 1985 then scan the issue article titles for the article being cited. The edit sends us straight there. I also updated the archive information to the most recently archived instance of the article URL. --Gookey (talk) 20:39, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for doing all the formatting work for me! PianoDan (talk) 20:42, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Bias by omission in the 3rd paragraph

The 3rd intro paragraph mentions the 1994 CotP massacre, which ofc is reasonable to do.

But: Since that gets a mention there, why doesn't also the 1980 massacre of 6 Jewish worshipers (17 wounded) receive one?

-- 84.188.166.3 (talk) 16:40, 25 January 2022 (UTC)