Talk:Kane (wrestler)

Tombstone

Is it worth mentioning that, in more recent times anyway, the tombstone used by Kane varies from the more standard version? Whenevr the tombstone is used by anyone else, obviously mainly the Undertaker, but there are others, their head is positioned between their opponents legs, but Kane does it with both legs beside his head. --Sheepling 15:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Kane/Cain

The name Kane is a biblical reference to Cain, who killed his brother Abel when God accepted Abel's gifts and not his own.

Any truth to that? I assumed it was reference to the Undertaker, who at one time was called Cain/Kane the Undertaker...? --Jake Wilhite 14:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

They dropped the 'Kane' bit from Undertaker and reused it for Kane, does seem apporiate though cause it does link nicely with the biblical Cain/Kane cause he's attacked Taker numerous times. Night Bringer 12:33, 3 June 2006 (GMT +10)

I have always thought there was some link between the biblical mentioning of Cain and his jelousy towards his brother. I thought the jelousy would have been that Kane was jelouse of Undertaker for escaping the 'Fire' unhamred. I think the attacks on The Undertaker back this up, especialy since Two of the attack have been costing The Undertaker Buried Alive matches

2002 Injury

Does anyone remember what injury Glen suffered in 2002? And did it occur before or after Kane's beatdown and unmasking by the nWo? --Jake Wilhite 16:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

It was a torn bicep, and it was after the unmasking. [1] McPhail McPhail 16:45, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

No it wanst, the torn bicep was before he got unmasked, thats why he returned in the new outfit with red stripes.

No, his unmasking by the nWo. Not his eventual permanent unmasking. --Jake Wilhite 15:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

OH OK.

A little research on this points down the EXACT date that Kane tore his bicep in 2002. His injury happened AFTER the storyline of the nWo beatdown. The nWo beatdown occured on April 8, 2002 on Raw. Jim Ross' Weekly Report was printed on April 19th 2002 about Kane and his bicep injury. He stated it occured last Sunday while training in Abilene, Texas. WWE House show results will confirm that Kane was in action on Saturday April 13, 2002 in Odessa, Texas, but the results for the Sunday April 14, 2002 show states the following; X-Pac came out and then Howard Finkel announced that Kane missed his flight and so X-Pac made a challenge to the back and Big Show answered the challenge. So Glen's injury to his bicep could be confirmed to have happened on Sunday, April 14th 2002. Bgredmchn 16:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

The 2002 injury was said to be suffered when Kane was assaulted back stage by the nWo during their rivalry. In reality it was suffered during a work out.

Height

well when the fake kane(freakin deacon) came the were the same height and the fake kane is 6'7

The fake Kane was clearly shorter than Kane even with obviously bigger lifts. Manssiere 14:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Kane is more like 6 foot 9. On WWE when Kane entered it said Kane is just under 7 foot. WWE exaggerates heights, Glen wore 3inch lifts to make him appear slightly taller than the (billed) 6'10 and a half Undie. Even in lifts he was nowhere near 7ft. Glen is not the same height as K Nash.(Halbared 11:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC))

Kane is 6'9" with his wrestling boots on. Without them he's probably around 6'8".

Back when he was Isaac Yankem, I remember him being shorter than the Undertaker, but when he debuted as Kane, he was taller (using lifts as Halbared said). I was under the impression that Taker was a legit 6'10, though his bio on here says different. Anyway, basically Kane's legit height is about an inch or so less than Taker's legit height. --JFred 02:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I would agree, and if you take Undie as being 6'8" (I think Undie is not this tall), then Glen is prolly 6'7"(Halbared 11:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC))

Glen Jacobs is a legit 6'6. He wears lifts still, but not sure if they are the big lifts he used to wear in his early days. Not sure what his weight is, but I doubt he is over 300lbs. Looks more like 280 to me. He has lost some size over the years. Powerslam magazine is the source for the height.

Glen Jacobs is 6'8.25" in bare feet, ~6'9" in regular shoes and 6'9.5" in current ring gear. In his original lifts he was well over 6'10". Kevin Nash is only 6'9" in bare feet. Manssiere 14:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

If what you say is true aboot Nash, then that makes the Taker around 6 ft 7, since there was around 2inch diff between them at WM13.(Halbared 15:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC))

Taker is 6' 7-1/2" in bare feet. He looked more 1-1/2" shorter than Nash than a full 2" IMO. Manssiere 15:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

HE CANT BE 6'6", HE HAS BEEN IN THE RING WITH THE LIKES OF THE ROCK AND TRIPLE H WHO ARE BOTH IN THE 6'4"-6'5" AREA> HE HIS MUCH MORE THAN AN INCH OR TWO TALLER THAN THE BOTH OF THEM.

Both those chaps are shorter than that. See here. www.celebheights.com (Halbared 19:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC))

I agree, most of the heights of Wrestlers listed on WWE profiles, include the wrestler in his shoes(1.5-2 inches of shoe heels).

Glen Jacob's 6ft 9 translates to a 6ft7-8 without shoes. This also applies well with the Big show's 7ft translating to 6'10-11 without shoes. And it is known that Big show is 3-4 inches taller than jacobs. --207.225.65.89 01:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Why is kane at 6,7? Undertaker is at 6'8. Kane is 6,9. Kane is taller than the Undertaker.

Glen is not taller than the Taker, he is shorter, remember Issac Yankem?(Halbared 08:17, 28 May 2006

Yankem looked ~1" taller than Taker in that match. There is a picture of a face off between the masked Undertaker and Yankem, Judging by facial features and shoulder heights Yankem looks almost exactly 3/4" taller than Undertaker. During the match you can also see Yankem has no lifts. Manssiere 15:33, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

That bicep injury must still be bothering Glen, his size is definatly suffering. Look at it from today's back when he unmasked. Doesnt even look like the same man. He must not be able to hit the gym anymore.

Steroid ban is no doubt also hitting 95% of the wrestlers.(Halbared 16:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC))

I would think they could get them...just look at Vince ..he is swole up ...60 yrs old? he must be on something. I dont take the anabolics..but did get plenty of M1T, and Haladrol before they were banned. They work...but not as well as the good stuff. He may just be tired of all the working out also...its not easy to keep a physique like that.

Vince doesn't compete though, and he sure wouldn't take the pee test!:oD(Halbared 06:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC))

Credit: WIVK Radio, Knoxville Tenn. 2003 - Kane speaks on the Andy and Alison show;

Alison: "You're a big guy, how tall are you?"

Kane: "I'm about 6 foot 9."

Possibly, since this IS a discussion page, should we add a REAL height AND what he is billed at?Bgredmchn 14:05, 6 June 2006

Nah, because then it would be needed for a lot of other wrestlers. And he might have been in kafabe when he answerd that question.(Halbared 21:47, 6 June 2006 (UTC))

He was speaking out of character the entire interview speaking about how random some matches for Raw are, about him doing Pilates, and how it was being away from wrestling and home during his bicep injury. Bgredmchn 00:40, 7 June 2006

I think that Glen is a staggering 6'10. Look at how tall he looks compared to Show, he's only about an inch away from being Show's height & probably wears lifts in his shoes to make him 6'11. Son of Kong.

Yep, Kane is 7'0, or is 6'11 & some inches. Either way, just leave his height at 7'0 Son of Kong

Well, Kane isn't a legit 7'. (Even Shaq on rare occasions has admitted to only 6' 11-1/2" when he graduated college, though he must have grown almost an inch since) In the old days in his massive lifts Kane was approaching 6'11" however. Kane (or rather Jacobs) on the street, out of character consistently says "about six nine" when asked about his height, he has admitted to being 6' 8-1/4" in bare feet and 6'9" in shoes which is spot on based on photographs with people who we can get confirmed heights on.

Based on various sources, photographs, interviews, etc. here is my take on the much disputed "true" (bare feet measurments) heights of some of the wrestlers.

• Giant Gonzales - 7'6"
• Great Kali - 7' 0-1/2"
• Big Show - currently 6'11.5" (7' 0-1/2" peak)
• Andre the Giant - 7' peak (6'10" in the "twilight days")
• Kevin Nash - 6'9"
• Kane - 6' 8-1/4"
• Giant Haystacks - 6' 8-1/4"
• Undertaker - 6' 7-1/2"
• Big John Studd - 6'7"
• Snitsky - 6'6"
• Hogan - 6' 5-3/4" peak (6' 3-3/4" currently)
• The Rock - 6'3"

Manssiere 15:33, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Someone just changed the height to 6"10 and added 3 pounds to his weight.Cosmic Larva 17:23, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Manssiere, that list is just about all wrong. Khali is a legit 7'3, the Undertaker is a legit 6'8 and Big John Stud is a legit 6'8 or 6'9 as he was only two inches shorter than Andre. Your list is almost completely wrong. This is how it should be:

• Giant Gonzales - 7'6
• The Great Khali - 7'3
• The Big Show - 7'0
• Andre the Giant - 6'10
• Kevin Nash - 6'10 1/2
• Kane - 6'9
• Giant Haystacks (not sure about him, don't know much about him)
• The Undertaker - 6'8
• Big John Stud - 6'8 1/2 - 6'9
• Snitsky - 6'4-6'7
• Hulk Hogan - 6'4
• The Rock - 6'5

Son of Kong

Son of Kong, I've seen some of your comments on these boards and your estimates are usually pretty far off. Laughably off at times, case in point, "I think that Glen is a staggering 6'10. Look at how tall he looks compared to Show, he's only about an inch away from being Show's height & probably wears lifts in his shoes to make him 6'11. Son of Kong and don't forget this little gem "Yep, Kane is 7'0, or is 6'11 & some inches. Either way, just leave his height at 7'0 Son of Kong". You place alot of emphasis on KAYFABE which is a major mistake. WWE generally adds 2" to the legit heights of wrestlers at or below the 6'4" range, and sometimes more for the bigger guys where it will be harder to guesstimate. There are a few exceptions, but that is the general rule of thumb.

The Great Khali is not a legit 7'3" (barefoot), his face off with Big Show proves that. Either Big Show is taller than the 7' barefoot he claims (not a chance) or Khali is shorter than his 7'3" claim, you can't have it both ways. Why don't you visit www.celebheights.com and see just how off some of your estimates are.

The fact that you think the Rock is a legit 6'5" is further reinforcement of my belief that you don't know what you are talking about. Watch Be Cool sometime, in it the Rock can be seen being clearly shorter than 6'5" Vince Vaughn. The Rock has freely admitted that 6'5" Vince Vaughn is taller than he is. The Rock is 6'3" - 6'3.5", no more, we even have the Rock on record admitting as much.

Also, you think Snitsky is a legit 6'7"? Think again, here is a link to some photos of Ben Rothlesberger (6'5" legit) and Max Starks (just under 6'8" legit) with various WWE superstars. http://benroethlisberger.typepad.com/photos/big_ben_at_wwe/pictures_051.html Notice Kane has 3" on Rothlesberger but Snitsky appears almost exactly the same height as Rothlesberger and Snitsky is clearly shorter than Starks.

As for Big John Studd, one only needs to look at his matches with Hulk Hogan to see how wrong you are there.

Just curious, how tall do you think Triple H is? This one should be good for a quick laugh. Manssiere 16:41, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't put emphasis on kayfabe. And if you would look at some of my recent replies, you'd see that I said Kane is at least 6'7. And I never said Snitsky was a legit 6'7, I put it from being anywhere from 6'4-6'7, read it again. I don't even care about Snitsy anyway. As for Khali, he is 7'3, if he wasn't, I believe it would've been stated by now. As for the Rock, maybe I was wrong but how can I not know what I'm talking about because of my OPINIONS? That shows that you're not that bright to say I don't know what I'm talking about because I'm stating my opinions. Yes I know about lifts but that doesn't mean that everyone wears them. Lastly, Triple H has to be 6'2 or 6'3, he's not that short because he wasn't far from being as tall as Batista who's a legit 6'5. But enough about their heights, why do you care so much? You get laughs out of people making estimates, shows how much of a life you have....Son of Kong

First off, you went back and changed your Snitsky estimate, it's right there in the Wikipedia history. Click on the Glen Jacobs discussion page history, look at the last edit by Son of Kong and it's clear for all to see; you changed your Snitsky estimate because photograhic evidence proved you wrong. I can also show you photographic evidence that proves the Great Khali has nowhere near 3 inches on the Big Show, 1 inch, maybe 1.5 inches MAX. Since Paul Wight admits to standing only 7 feet barefoot (I think he is about 1/2" shy of that curently) then Khali CANNOT stand a true 7'3". The fact that you are nearly 2 inches off in your estimation of the Rock after telling me my list was completely wrong is further reinforcement of your ignorance. Batista is not a legit 6'5", once again you are buying into Kayfabe. Surprisingly, your estimate of Triple was fairly close, the guy is about 6'1.5" in reality. Lastly, your ability to predict anything about about me or my life based on this conversation has sadly proven just as inaccurate as your ability to judge heights. Manssiere 21:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

bottom line....6'10 without boots,6'11 with boots.

True. Iam 6ft 6in without shoes and when I met glen a year ago when he was wearing no platform shoes he was a least 3 in taller then me.

Tombstone Piledriver

Why doesn't Kane tombstone very much anymore?

Mainly because piledrivers are all but banned in the WWE now. Taker's is grandfathered in, as it's been his finisher since his appearance (except for a time in his biker gimmick when he used The Last Ride). Kane, however, used the Chokeslam for his finisher for the most part, and therefore was not grandfathered in. -Darryl Hamlin 20:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

It actually has more to do with damage to his knees, a problem Taker has had as well. He stopped using it regularly long before piledrivers were outright banned. Tromboneguy0186 03:18, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Kane did actually tombstone Rob Conway after he wore the May 19 shirt.

Kane tombstones once in a while. He tombstoned the priest at Edge and Lita's wedding.

I removed the entry about Kane using the Tombstone again. He has always used it from time to time. I felt it wasn't worth mentioning. --Jake Wilhite 13:43, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

If piledrivers are banned how come Taker and Kane can still use the Tombstone? Night Bringer

Because they are banned for everyone except Kane and Undertaker. The tombstone piledriver has been used by Kane and Undertaker almost all there career and to it would be a shame to not be able to use it anymore.

Same reason Jerry Lawler still uses the piledriver when he, on ocassion, wrestles for WWE. Tromboneguy0186 13:14, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Also, people like them who used the Piledriver for years have allowances made for them since they are far less likely to mess up than someone else. Hybrid 05:54, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

The tombstone Pile Driver ban was put into effect becasue of Stone Cold Steve Austins neck injury suffered while being piledriven. The WWE has outlawed it to all superstars that are inexpirienced in using the move where as The Undertaker and Kane can execute the move perfectly. They offer advanced training in judging the distance between the head and ring canvas to highly tallented superstars that would feel comfortable using the move without performing it wrong.

also because Kane blew out one of his knees while he played basketball and doesn't do it often because of bad knees -kanenite10

Weight

Is it true that Kane is 326 pounds?

I doubt he is that heavy, looks more like 290 to me.(Halbared 11:07, 22 May 2006 (UTC))

I agree, that is basically his gimmick weight. --JFred 02:06, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Kane weighs more than the Undertaker doesn't he? ring announcers bill him as 320 pounds now

I would prolly think so, he looks more muscular.(Halbared 08:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC))

SmackDown! bills him at 323 lbs.

Kane is about 275-280 pounds, as quoted from Jim Ross' Weekly Column at wwe.com (August 30, 2002). (bgredmchn 13:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC))

kane is freakin' 320 pounds,taker is 305-315.

Only in kayfabe. -- THL

Kane is 300lbs because of my experience of how he looks my brother is a professional strongman and weighs 330lbs at 6ft 9in and he looks smaller in size then Kane does. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Switchat (talk • contribs)

Unibomb/Unabomb

OWW says "Unibomb." Now, I'll admit that they do also refer to JBL's cabinet as "The Cabinit," so it's not as if Brad Dykens would win the Scripps Spelling Bee, but it's seems that there's a disagreement in sources. Tromboneguy0186 20:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think there's an authoritative source either way, unless it is covered in his book. McPhail 15:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

OWW is horrible if you want the correct spelling of something. And Kane's book, to my knowledge, is pure kayfabe. --Jake Wilhite 14:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Black Knight

Jacob's debut was as Issac Yankem. It was Jeff Gaylord who was the Black Knight. source, Powerslam. Correct. glen's deut was as Isaac Yankem when he got the DQ at survivor series

Fake Kane

on may 29tth, why did the old kane come out and chokeslam the current kane? What was it about? Whopper 01:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

• Until it's revealed on TV, nobody's going to know. I would like to know if anyone has any idea who played the fake Kane. Trytan? Test? Fertig? Illuminattile 02:04, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'm gonna go out on a limb here, can we add a suggestion that it might be Undertaker? When you had the close ups of his chin it looked like taker, and it would explain the double sleaves ('Taker has TONNES of identifiable tatoos), he is shorter than Kane, the build is right and on alot of those May 19th things it sounds like 'Taker as well. Surely its about as likely as this Dorien DeVille bloke? Help plz 04:40, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

• • 151.213.106.208 13:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC) PWInsider has stated that "Kane" is being played by the "Freakin' Deacon" Dorian Deville, if that helps any but then again, someone listed that the Wrestling Observer is listing Drew Hankinson as playing "Kane". Both pages for these wrestlers has them listed as playing "Kane," so who knows at this point.

Drew Hankinson = Dorian DeVille. I expanded the Hankinson page and made Dorian DeVille redirect there.Illuminattile 16:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Why doesnt wwe.com have any pictures or any videos of the fake kane thing? i really want to watch it its bugging me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU9ktupOXEI&search=Kane (must be logged in) --Jake Wilhite 19:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Well prior to last night the WWE official website did include a video footage of the new (or old) Kane, but later during the early hours it was removed. Probably the WWE wants to keep their fans a bit agitated. However I am realy looking forward to see how they are going to build this storyline, if any one got any suggestion please write down. --Jay2o 18:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I get the feeling this will lead to Kane "becoming" Glen Jacobs, slowly revealing he was never Kane to begin with. Possible just manipulated by Paul Bearer into believing he was. --Jake Wilhite 19:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I think it may be something simple like JBL messing with Kane to get back at Kane for chokslaming him on May 19th since JBL left Smackdown probaly to move to Raw and start a feud with Kane.

:::Alright, who made up that Drew Hankinson = Dorian DeVille crap. Thats not right, they aren't the same person. DGX 18:43, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Wrong. [2], [3], [4]. McPhail 19:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Never mind... DGX 19:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Why the hell did someone remove the Kane & Fake Kane pic???? Its so confusing readers will need to see that picture. Whoever can, I suggest they put it back!!!

How do you change and add pictures?

Who took out about the The Doppelgänger simularities like the undertaker many years back. That's an interesting fact that should be placed back, two on screen brothers having look a likes that they've faced; or will at some point.

Personally I think this might be a man vs his 'inner demons' angle cause the voices have been playing havoc with Kane's head, this might be like the 'darker' part of Kane finally coming out again. It'll be interesting to see if the other Kane attacks the rest of the locker room or just Kane. Night Bringer 1 June 2006, 10:09 (GMT +10)

Someone's done it again! Why did someone take down the Kane-Fake Kane backstage pic? That was a real good pic? Why take it down? You didn't like it? I suggest that someone put it back up.

WWE has banned all pics/vids of fake Kane because it was ovious it was the same person as fake Undertaker... SKRIBUL 19:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Wrestling Attire

Can anyone tell me the different outfits Kane wore and when? I know he debuted with a "sweater" look with only a sleeve over the right arm and that was used to 2000. Then came the tanktop in 2001. When did the one with both sleeves come in? --Aaru Bui 07:48, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Kane wore both sleeves in the inferno match in his first year. It was also used by the Undertaker, when he pretended to be Kane later that year.(Halbared 08:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC))

Wrong, he did not use it for 2/3 inferno matches that im sure of, the first one vs taker and the third vs hhh -kanenite10

Kane also wore the double sleeves against stone cold in the first blood match, so it was not clear if he was bleeding on his arm. He only wore double sleeves from time to time, very few times actually.

The kane clone who attackes kane has a tatto on his arm i think witch is why he wore two sleeves

even then, the sleeves on the doppleganger doesn't have Kane's spikes coming down the side -kanenite10

The real Kane wore two sleeves at one point as well. Check out this pic to see: http://www.gerweck.net/drewhankinson.htm TJ Spyke 22:05, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Retirement Impending?

sources have claimed, kane will retire in januaray 2007, any truth to it, and should it be put on the article?

It's still a rumour at this point, so no. If he retires in 2007, it can be added to the article then. McPhail 22:01, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree with that. Unless the sources can ever (and they can't because of legal issues) get Glen Jacobs to be "quoted" as saying such, and NOT from "someone" with in the WWE saying (and they never mention who it is) it should be left off of here. This shouldn't be a wrestling rumor site, let's leave that to those that run those sites. bgredmchn 03:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

There have been many rumors about Kane wanting to retire for basic reasons of wrestlers such as himself not getting the right treatment by the company. According to rumors and some people behind the cameras in the WWE, Kane was unhappy with the direction of his character as done by the writers. It wasn't too much about getting a title, but that too was placed into the argument and of those couple of reasons he threatened to walk. Upon this getting back to the writers and head of the WWE who we know who it is, there was an actual meeting with Kane at WWE Headquarters. Discussions were made and if by Jan 2007 if he is unhappy with the current direction his character was going he could walk and it would be Undertaker who would end the Kane saga. That is the reason for the move to Smackdown. There is a small tie in with the "Imposter Kane" to this as well. WWE had brought in Drew Hankinson who is also known as the "Freakin' Deacan" to portray Kane because they both actually perform the Chokeslam as a finisher. They do look a little similar as well. When the Imposter Kane defeated Kane that was the actual day that Kane had threatened to walk. Imposter Kane was brought in for this purpose as well. He would have been the one to replace the current Kane much like Brian Lee did for the Undertaker. Kane's contract does expire toward the end of Jan 2007 and he has not made any descisions on his current identity as Kane. --Charles-Joseph 19:40, 9 November 2006

This monday night on raw, there will be a loser leaves raw match between umaga and kane. Kane is rumored to retire in january so i think its only logical that kane will lose, move to smackdown and undertaker and kane will have a short stint till january where they face off in the royal rumble in a match where the loser leaves wwe, an 'i quit' match sounds fitting 87.114.13.53 09:35, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no move, lack of consensus. -- Kim van der Linde ^{at venus} 19:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

• Glen Jacobs → Kane (wrestler) … Rationale: Better known under this name. Tromboneguy0186 01:48, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Support McPhail 13:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose - there have been several wrestlers who have used the name Kane. See the Kane page for more information. --- Lid 18:38, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose - Glen Jacobs is easier for disambiguation purposes. --Jtalledo (talk) 19:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose, for the reasons I stated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mike_Plotcheck#Discussion. Tuckdogg 23:35, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
• Support Nearly a decade as Kane so it's pretty obvious this guy is the most popular wrestler to go by that name. Plus it would match pages with guys like Triple H and Sting. Maestro25 04:34, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support - WP:NC says the "most recognizable name", and most people recognize Kane and not Jacobs. Although there may have been multiple wrestlers under that ring name, he is by far the most well-known. Furthermore, in nonwrestling endeavors he has referred to himself as Kane. WP:NC supports ring names over real names in any case. kelvSYC 05:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support(Halbared 09:23, 1 July 2006 (UTC))
• Support. That is the name he is most known for, and he also uses that name whenever he is in public. TJ Spyke 22:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support While he is still working for WWE, Kane seems appropriate Aceboy 05:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose WWE owns the trademark, not Glen. He can only use Kane under the WWE banner. --Dubhagan 14:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose, use his name.--Aldux 22:23, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
• Support — The majority of the article is kayfabe. It would only make sense if his on-screen name was used to go with the kayfabe article.--The Scourge 06:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Suport Cosmic Larva 18:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
• Support - As above. Topher0128 03:59, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

Add any additional comments

I oppose the move to "Kane (wrestler)" - although he's primarily known by that name and has used the name in See No Evil, the film is a WWE film and Jacobs likely isn't able to use the name outside of WWE. But the main thing is that most wrestlers are listed under their real names and using "Glen Jacobs" is best for disambiguation purposes, since Kane has other meanings on Wikipedia. --Jtalledo (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Isn't that precisely what "(wrestler)" is for? By your logic, Sting (wrestler) should be at Steve Borden since Sting has other meanings (which I actually proposed and got vehemently shot down, hence this and other similar proposals) Tromboneguy0186 08:53, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Lid: I understand that, but aside from Freakin' Deacon, are any of them logical searches nowadays? Are people going to input "Kane" when looking for Lane Huffman (another possible move) or Mark Calaway? Drew Hankinson I'll grant you, but that can easily be accomodated by:

For the wrestler briefly known as "Impostor Kane," see Drew Hankinson

Tromboneguy0186 08:56, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Sting is a different case. He's used the Sting name not only for a long time, but across promotions. Kane likely doesn't have that right. Even if people type in "Kane" they'll still get the disambiguation page. Let's leave the page where it is. --Jtalledo (talk) 13:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

• Tromboneguy0186: You're right; Sting should be indexed at "Steve Borden" not "Sting." He doesn't even use the Sting name outside of wrestling. His movie credits are nearly always as "Steve Borden", with the occasional early role being credited as "Steve 'Sting' Borden." Sorry I missed the debate on that one; I would've supported you. ;) Tuckdogg 14:12, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

What kind of majority is needed to move or keepm something?(Halbared 14:16, 3 July 2006 (UTC))

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

where is kanes finishers and signature moves?

Wife & Children

Jacob's wife is named Tia, not Maurisa & he has one son with her. Son of Kong

The rumour of Jacob's wife being named "Tia" and of him having one "son" is false. This internet rumour was perpetuated by some over-the-top fangirl. However, Jacobs was confirmed to have two stepdaughters with his wife Maurisa, in the first interview he gave in 1999, with Terry Morrow of the Knoxville News-Sentinel. As far as I am aware from other more recent articles,the two are still married, or at least we have been given no realiable evidence that they are not. Kalfu

Sick Entry

Somebody put an entry in there saying that Kane died on the 23rd August. Is there any truth to this or is he just injured.If it was fake I sure hope that guy nearly sparked a chain reaction that would involve wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.111.61.87 (talk • contribs) 06:51, 23 August 2006.

I think I got the last of that. Ken S. 21:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Undertaker's page was also vandalised. Cosmic Larva 03:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

It is untrue. Kane is still alive and well. That entry may have come from the untrue rumors that the current Kane is not the origional and that the origional Kane retired due to the WWE officials atempting to make him remove his mask.

Outfit/Disguise Pictures?

I know I'm old school, but when I watched wrestling, Kane still wrestled in disguise, and I thought it was for a pretty significant part of his career, yet there aren't any pictures of this ... Topher0128 04:02, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Relationship Status????

Just yesterday Kane was listed as havign a wife and two kids, now it claims he's single and the mention of the children is gone. Did something happen or was this vandalism??

EDIT - Oops, forgot to sign this. Cosmic Larva 03:15, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

It will just be vandalism as Kane is married with two step-daugeters

Photo

Would it be possible to get one where the person taking it doesn't have their finger over the lens? Tromboneguy0186 06:12, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree, the current picture is sub-par. The old picture we had up for Kane was far better. Cosmic Larva 07:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

A month late but what the hell ... it's actually a lady's head from the original photo. --Oakster ^(Talk) 22:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree, most of the pictures seem to be ones taken by fans in the crowd. There should be more profesional ones.

Recent Activity

Please don't add rumors and speculation to this article unless you are citing legitimate sources.

i dont know but to me it seemed kane was legitametly hurt in the attack by umaga...it look as if umaga muffed that samona spike and really hit his throat. any on know specics? 24.128.202.124 00:33, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I thought that too when I first saw t, but I honestly don't think Umaga would have intentionally kicked him again if he saw his coleauge spitting up real blood on the mat. It's possible I suppose, it did look VERY realistic. Cosmic Larva 05:01, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

It was a botched move that did injure Kane. That was the first attempt at a "Flying Samoan Spike" as some fans call it. He did have some throat problems for a few days and in fact it was actually Kane's fault why the move was botched. If he didn't try to sit up, the thumb would not have been driven into the throat like it was. Watch when Umaga performs this move now. All wrestlers lay flat on the mat and barely move.--Charles-Joseph 19:47, 9 November 2006

Just wanted to point out, the last time Kane was on Smackdown before October 2006 was not in 2002 as stated in the article. He was on Smackdown May 19th of this year to Promote his movie "See No Evil" as well as prior to Wrestlemania In March/April.

It means the last time he was actually on the SmackDown! roster, not the last time he appeared. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  01:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Chokeslam

Is it called chokeslam from hell or just chokeslam?

It's the chokeslam. Jim Ross sometimes calls it a "chokeslam from hell" when he delivers a particularly high impact chokeslam, such as driving someone completely through the ring matt as he has done in the past. Manssiere 14:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

You know, I think JR sometimes calls it a chokeslam to hell, not from hell.

nope its definately 'from hell' on smackdown vs raw 2006 when kane does the chokeslam, he says "my god, what a chokeslam from hell!"

Yeah, and we should take "The Undertaker... has a nice.... The Last Ride!" as how Taz says it because clearly, that's how he says it in on of the earlier Smackdown games. 4, I believe. Every time I hear J.R. call it more than just "By Gawd, chokeslam from Kane." He says "By Gawd, Kane just chokeslammed <insert opponent> straight to hell!" -Darryl Hamlin 16:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

It's just the Chokeslam. The reason it is called the 'Chokeslam From Hell' on the video game is because it does alot more damage than a normal chokeslam. Also on the game JR does not anounce it as 'My god, what A Chokeslam From Hell'. He says 'By god, what a Chokeslam all the way from hell'. On WWE TV shows JR rarley adds the 'From Hell'. He and Jerry Lawler just shout Chokeslam. Kanes chokeslam is considerd no different from The Undertakers and his is just The Chokeslam aswell.

Mask

the article must contain kanes mask to be a kane article.

Date of Birth

Since when has it been known that Glen Jacobs was born on November 10, 1070? Everything I have ever read has said something like April 7, 1967.

Sounds about right. Otherwise, he certainly is in good condition for a 936 year old.

He was born on the 26th of April. The year is disputed between 1967 and 1968.[5], [6] (bottom of page), [7], [8] -- THL 06:26, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Masked Picture

Shouldn't there be a picture of Kane with his mask on? I mean its what he was known for, and was a huge part of his career. --Mikedk9109 19:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

There is one when he was wearing his tank top atire. If you mean a picture in his debuting atire then I agree. There should also be one of him with his 'Half Mask' on

Yes, and there should definatley be a picture of Kane's unsmasking from June '03 because that is for sure the most dramatic and 'life-changing' moment in his career to date.

The Black Knight

Question, if there are no dependable references as to whether Glen Jacobs did in fact portray the Black Knight, should it really be listed as one of his ring names? I'm personally of the persuasion that the Black Knight was portrayed by Jeff Gaylord and not Glen Jacobs. Kalfu

As am I. All you have to do is watch the match, the Black Knight is deffo not Kane, he is way too small.Halbared 09:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Syd Barrett

I heard from somewhere that his appearance after he took off his mask was based on Syd Barrett's appearance after he shaved all of his hair. They do look very similar. Think this is worth mentioning? --XXXtylerXXX 20:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

You will need a reliable source if you want to add that otherwise it will be removed quickly. --67.71.78.201 05:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

The only reason Kane's head was shaven was because behind the camera Kane had short hair. The only reason hair was added onto the mask was to portray him like The undertaker, tall and with long hair to make them apear more like brothers.

Are you trying to say that Jacobs always had short hair and therefore always wore a wig while portraying the character? Because if you are that is absolute rubbish. Jacobs had long hair right up until the night he unmasked, at which point they shaved half his head and attached a wig to his mask. This is the only time Kane ever wore a wig. This has been confirmed in interviews with both Jacobs himself and Bill Moody (Paul Bearer aka Percy Pringle). Also there were several times in the past where Kane was unmasked on tv eg by the Undertaker and his hair was long and did not come off with the mask. -- Kalfu

Not the Origional?

I've recently heard that the current Kane is not the Origional one. Apparently the Origional Kane retired because his injury in 2002 was permanent so the WWE brought in a new guy to to fill in the gap. Is there any truth to this at all?

Not at all true. Glen Jacobs has always been the wrestler to portray Kane, from his debut in 1997 up until now. The only other time when you could maybe say Kane was portrayed by another and that is a stretch imo, would be when they had Drew Hankinson portray the Fake Kane. Also there was a time several years back when the Undertaker and Kane swapped placed for the night to trick Vince McMahon. Kane appeared cloaked as the Undertaker and the Undertaker appeared dressed in Kane's outfit and mask, only with full length sleeves to cover his tatoos. Kalfu

No.Jacobs is the original, and only real Kane to have wreslted for WWE. Cosmic Larva 01:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, except for Drew Hankinson from earlier this year, no, there are no other Kanes. Gruntyking117 22:44, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, there was a person who played Kane for a few weeks, but I don't recall his name. --Mikedk9109 (sup) (stalk me) 22:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Glen has always portrayed Kane since day one. The reason this has been brought up is probably due to the fact at times Kane appears to look heavy at one time, then slender at another, and then heavier again. All wrestlers have weight issues. Glen was the Imposter Diesel shortly before becoming Kane, and he was in fact around 326Lbs before becoming Kane. When he first appeared he had a little bit of a gut on him, and this was addressed to Glen. Throughout the first few years, Glen was in the gym frequently and by the time he got rid of a little bit of weight was around the time he first wore the black outfit. The next time we saw a drastic change in his weight is when he returned with the new half looking mask and there would be good reasons for this. He had just had surgery on his muscle and being bedridden a week and not getting enough exercise is the reason for the weight change. I had an operation and I was skinner after than when I went in to the operation. Now when we see Kane he seems to be a little bit bigger than before due to the fact he was back in the gym. There were only two other people that ever posed as, or did the Kane gimmick. The first was Undertaker. Taker had dressed in Kane's double sleeved attire numerous times, and one time wrestled a full match in it as well. The last and only other person was Drew Hankinson. Other than those two people, Kane has always been portrayed by Glen Jacobs.--Charles-Joseph 19:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)Charles-Joseph

Mask

Should we have section about the different mask he wore. Or have a page about the different ways his attire was set up like Undertakers personas page.

No because the personas of the Undertaker page is up for deletion. If we make one about Kane, it wil also be deleted. --Mikedk9109 23:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Also, there was no substantial change in personality with the costume alterations, unlike with Undertaker. -Darryl Hamlin 01:10, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

No, we just need more pictures of Kane's older attires. His one from 2003 isn't enough. Gruntyking117 22:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no move. -- tariqabjotu 01:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Requested Move

• Glen Jacobs → Kane (wrestler) … Rationale: Kane has been known under this ring name for over 9 years. I highly doubt he will be going to another promotion that would cause him to change his ring name. I think its disrespectful that he cannot have it under his own name but The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Triple H, Shawn Michaels can. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  18:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Support: Per my nomination reasons. --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  18:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose For all the reasons of the last nom.«»bd^{I'm cool!}I'm cocky! _{I'm bad!} 01:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose We already went through this once, just leave it alone please. Glen does not own the Kane gimmick, it is property of WWE. If he owned it, then I'd likely support it. --James Duggan 06:51, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose He's also been well known as Isaac Yankem and as the fake Diesel. TJ Spyke 00:15, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
• Support: Agree with the initial nomination. Maestro25 00:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose. The man and the character/gimmick are different. Croctotheface 03:36, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose per above. Wow, this looks really familiar, but I can't quite figure out where I've seen it before... -- THL 08:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

Why was this proposed again? It has already been rejected, and nothing has changed since then. Is it really allowed to keep proposing the same thing over and over again with no time restrictions? -- THL 08:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Kane's Size

Why is everybody arguing about Kane's height? Doesn't he look like he is close to 7 feet? Yeah, WWE bills them more than they are, but it's obvious to anyone that he is almost 7 feet. His real height is 6'9" (206 cm) and he wears uppers in his boots that make him 6'11(+1/2)" (211 cm). So, WWE adds half an inch and bills him at 7'. As for his weight, in real life he weighs 294 pounds, even though World Wrestling Entertainment claims he is 320 lbs. ("The Prophecy" ,from Athens-Greece).

Got any sources for these? --  Mikedk9109  (talk)  14:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Is Kane Jewish?

Is Kane jewish??? I've heard alot of rumours about it, but is it true? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilos (talk • contribs)

He is a Spaniard and a Libertarian, but I'm not sure about his religion. If you meant ethnic Jew, then no he isn't. Also, you make a new section by putting two = signs around your edits. You also sign your edits by typing four of these ~. Cheers, -- THLR 22:03, 8 December 2006 (UTC) Emilos 16:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)emilos

Kayfabe?

Is the fact that Kane's parents died in a fire true or was it just to pump up Kane's character? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 989 RVD (talk) 22:07, 24 December 2006 (UTC).

Just kayfabe. -- The Hybrid 17:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

= ROYAL RUMBLE CORRECTION

The fact on the page about his number of Rumbles need to be changed, he's been in 11 96 as Isaac Yankem 97 as New Diesel 99-07 as Kane

What's his chest size

I know it seems a funny question but you see people who're his height and then you see the Big Show, there's a difference of 2 or 3 inches but the Big Show looks so much bigger purely because his chest and body is so much wider. I think that the Big Show is about a 70 inch chest.