Talk:The Mandalorian (character)

Title

I was unsure of what this should be titled, but made it in the same format as The Child (Star Wars character). HAL333 19:20, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 11 December 2019

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The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure) ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSA^talk 13:27, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

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The Mandalorian (Star Wars character) → The Mandalorian (character) – That The Mandalorian is a Star Wars character is not something that needs to be specified in the title of this article, as there are no other series that have a character known as "The Mandalorian". "The Mandalorian (character)" is a much more suitable title for this reason. MacCready (talk) 21:30, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:NCTV.Gonnym (talk) 22:20, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose NCTV -- Netoholic @ 03:37, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose WP:NCTV Fine as is HAL333 02:06, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

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Requested move 27 December 2019

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 18:17, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

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The Mandalorian (Star Wars character) → Din Djarin – The real name of the previously-unnamed protagonist of The Mandalorian was revealed in the season finale episode today to be Din Djarin. This name was leaked in the media in the past, but now that it's been officially revealed on the show, I think it's time we consider changing this article's title the character's actual name. Changing the name would also eliminate the need for the "(Star Wars character)" disambiguation, and avoid any possible confusion between the articles for the series and the character. And besides which, he isn't usually referred to as "The Mandalorian" in the show itself; he's much more often called by the nickname "Mondo". So I think there are several reasons it makes sense to change this article's title to Din Djarin. — Hunter Kahn 14:50, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Oppose. The name was previously linked incorrectly, despite his birth name he is most commonly referred to as "The Mandolorian".

Weak oppose. The standard is to title the article using the name by which the subject is most commonly known. Maybe his personal name will catch on, and if so the article should be retitled, but at this point, it's not at all the subject's "common" name. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 16:42, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Oppose per common name. -- /Alex/₂₁ 05:42, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

• Nobody in the actual show calls him "The Mandalorian", nor do most secondary sources discussing the show. The only reason the article about the character has this name is because it's also the name of the show. — Hunter Kahn 05:43, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

What characters in the show call him is not relevant. As for real-world sources, they certainly aren't referring to him as [looks it up because I've already forgotten it] "Din Djarin". -Jason A. Quest (talk) 17:27, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose Per WP:COMMONNAME._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:48, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose per common name. 83.70.57.53 (talk) 15:23, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
  • JasonAQuest, Alex 21, Zxcvbnm and 83.70.57.53 since you guys are citing WP:COMMONNAME, can you elaborate on how it applies in this case? My contention is that this character is NOT most commonly referenced as "The Mandalorian"; in the show he is seldom called that as a name (though the term is sometimes used to describe his race/culture) and he was usually referred to as "Mondo" "Mando" before his proper name was revealed. And likewise, most reviews, articles and secondary sources don't refer to him by that name either. Given that, it seems WP:COMMONNAME wouldn't apply to "The Mandalorian", and in fact that keeping the title only creates unnecessary confusion and disambiguation issues with the show's Wikipedia entry... — Hunter Kahn 17:38, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

• The average person off the street is not going to know or search for his name, as he is primarily known as "The Mandalorian" regardless of his real name. Similarly, Darth Vader is not titled "Anakin Skywalker" despite that being his real name._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 20:22, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

• Let's read the policy: Wikipedia "generally prefers the name that is most commonly used (as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources)". Hunter keeps jabbering about what other characters in the show call him, but they don't count because they are not real (let alone "independent, reliable English-language sources"). But as a point of clarification, what they're sometimes calling him is not "Mondo"; it is "Mando", short for Mandalorian, in the same way that people will call someone whose name is a mouthful such as Michelangelo "Mike" or "Michael", or they might call a Japanese person whose name they don't know "Jap" or an Australian person "Aussie". Some viewers and commentators have picked up this as a nickname. Whether "Mando" is commonly enough used to qualify as the "common name" for the character, I'm not in a position to answer. But what they absolutely are not calling him is [looks it up again] "Din Djarin". (Or "Mondo".) -Jason A. Quest (talk) 20:51, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

• Most of what you've said is correct, but please remain civil. Others reviewing the discussion can come to their own conclusions about Hunter Kahn's comments without the characterization of them as "jabbering". I probably would not have thought it worth mentioning if it were that alone, but you also used a term that is considered an ethnic slur in most countries. Dekimasuよ! 13:42, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks Dekimasu. Anyway, JasonAQuest, you seem to be misunderstanding or misreading my point. I'm not suggesting what the other characters call him on the show is the only rationale that should be applied here. I am saying NOBODY primarily calls him The Mandalorian. Not the characters on the show, nor other independent, reliable English-language sources that discuss the show or the character. Most reviews, for example, don't call him "The Mandalorian" so as to avoid confusing the character with the show; references to him are usually a mixed bag of Mando, the protagonist, the title character, the hero, etc. etc. And yes, some of them do sometimes him "The Mandalorian" too, but the point is there is no one single name that he is referred to by the most often, so your application of WP:COMMONNAME is misguided. My point was in the absence of such a common name, his proper name of Din Djarin might make the most sense to go with as an article title. But if most of the other participants in the discussion disagree (and Zxcvbnm makes a much more compelling argument than JasonAQuest does), then I'm fine with it being left as is as well. — Hunter Kahn 14:25, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose per my previous response.HAL333 23:37, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
• Oppose Per WP:COMMONNAME. He's currently referred to as The Mandalorian in all official summaries and publications. GimmeChoco44 (talk) 06:20, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

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Requested move 27 December 2019

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The result of the move request was: procedural close. This proposal was already rejected less than 10 days ago. It can be revisited at some point in the future to gauge whether consensus has changed, but it is not appropriate to reinitiate the same discussion again immediately. Dekimasuよ! 13:24, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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I instead propose that the page be moved to "The Mandalorian (character)", per the reasons you've stated with regards disambiguation, as there is no real reason to specify the franchise given there is no other franchise with a character by that same name. That he is called "Mandolorian" by outsiders and "Mando" by more familiar acquaintances is noted already in the page's opening paragraph. 83.70.58.23 (talk) 16:22, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Support. Per above. 83.70.58.23 (talk) 16:22, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Support. The current disambiguation is pointlessly clunky. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 16:42, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Oppose. This change was already proposed and a consensus rejected it. I also oppose "The Mandalorian" as a character name in general since he is almost never called that in the actual show. (It's usually just "Mando".) I think his actual name makes the most sense as a title. — Hunter Kahn 16:48, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Oppose per previous identical RM. -- /Alex/₂₁ 05:42, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose And speedy close per previous RM._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:45, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Possible move?

The title for this article is slightly cumbersome. Should it be moved to The Mandalorian (Star Wars)? The page for baby yoda: The Child (Star Wars), is in the same format. What do you think?HAL333 07:20, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

The issue is that The Mandalorian (Star Wars) is likely to be confused with The Mandalorian or even the redirect The Mandalorian (TV series). This is not the case with The Child (Star Wars). Also, the show name by itself as a disambiguation is most commonly used for the names of individual episodes, as in "Enter Alexis (Dynasty)".— TAnthony^Talk 19:16, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Good point.HAL333 22:16, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

But I actually just noticed the previous move proposal to The Mandalorian (character), which I would have supported. Technically the Star Wars is unnecessary disambiguation, as there are not and won't ever be other characters called The Mandalorian in other franchises. WP:NCDAB reads (in part):

3. Parenthetical disambiguation. A disambiguating word or phrase can be added in parentheses. The word or phrase in parentheses should be:

• the generic class (avoiding proper nouns, as much as possible) that includes the topic, as in Mercury (element), Seal (emblem)

A lot of character articles seem to unnecessarily include the show/franchise, but we have Jon Snow (character).— TAnthony^Talk 16:13, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:33, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that the title character of the Star Wars series The Mandalorian was partially inspired by Clint Eastwood's Man with No Name and the samurai films of Akira Kurosawa?
  • ALT1:... that actor Oscar Isaac urged Pedro Pascal to accept the title role of the Star Wars television series The Mandalorian?

• Reviewed: Longview Museum of Fine Arts

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self-nominated at 03:04, 14 March 2020 (UTC).

• The article is neutral, meets the required length, and is sufficiently referenced. Seriously, great job with this one. Article was 5x expanded on 13 March 2020, the day before this nomination. QPQ is done. Hooks are interesting and sourced; I personally find the main one the most appealing, but ALT1 is equally as good. Good to go! – Rhain ☔ 00:29, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Adamstom.97 (talk · contribs) 01:29, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Grabbing this review purely as a fan of the show. From a quick glance the article looks in-depth and well sourced. I'll take some time to have a good read of it and then come back with some thoughts. - adamstom97 (talk) 01:29, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks Adamstom.97 for taking on the review! — Hunter Kahn 19:11, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

The article is in depth, well sourced, and well presented. However, I am concerned with the large plot summary in the "Appearances" section. Usually for TV series the guideline is to keep a plot summary for a season below 500 words (per MOS:TVPLOT) and this page has more than double that for what is a relatively short and not very plot-heavy season. I appreciate the work put into writing the summary and referencing it well, but this is a definite issue for me (especially with more seasons to come, this is only going to get much bigger). Can you see what can be done about that? Also, here are a few smaller issues I have found:

• I have always found "fictional character" to be redundant, just "character" should suffice as a character is inherently fictional.
  • Changed. — Hunter Kahn 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
• Is there a way we could combine the (2019) and (The Mandalorin) in the "First appearance" section of the infobox? Having the two parentheticals beside each other looks odd.
  • I've changed to a way it's done in other Mandalorian character articles that I think addresses your concern. — Hunter Kahn 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
• an infant of the same alien species as Yoda I feel like we don't need to explain this in the first paragraph of the lead given the article is not about that character. I think the link in the lead and an explanation in the article body should suffice.
  • Works for me. Removed that from the lead. — Hunter Kahn 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
• The costume presented challenges for the actors portraying the Mandalorian, and ... this sentence in the lead seems like it would more naturally fit with the previous paragraph, leaving the last paragraph to discuss theme and reception.
  • I generally try to keep paragraphs in the lead at about equal length, and doing this makes the third paragraph very long and the last one very short. But that might not really matter at all, lol, so as long as you're OK with it, so am I. — Hunter Kahn 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
• Isn't "back story" only one word?
  • I've seen it both ways, but I've made it one word. — Hunter Kahn 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
• accept assistance with others should this be "from others"?
  • Oops, yes. Fixed. — Hunter Kahn 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
• the series premiere episode this should be just "the series premiere" or "the series' premiere episode".
  • Changed to the former. — Hunter Kahn 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
• Favreau is a long-time Star Wars fan, and the Mandalorians are one of his favorite groups of characters from the franchise. You could add here that Favreau previously voiced a Mandalorian in the Clone Wars TV show.
  • Added. — Hunter Kahn 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
• Some of your online sources have been archived, but not all of them. I would strongly recommend doing this.
  • I used the IABot the archive more of the online sources. Thanks for pointing this out; I hadn't realized how many were not archived! — Hunter Kahn 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
• Using the copyvio detector tool there are a couple sources coming back with "Violation Possible". I do not think there are any actual copyright violations in this article, but it would be good to give those areas a c/e to make sure the tool only shows "Violation Unlikely" results at worst.

Let me know once you have worked through these points or if you have any questions or concerns. - adamstom97 (talk) 23:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

• I've made some changes in response to the copyvio review, so it says "Violation unlikely" now. I've also tightened the season one synopsis to 500 words per your suggestion. Let me know if anything else needs to be addressed. Thanks Adamstom.97! — Hunter Kahn 14:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Good work on those changes. I'm happy with the coverage, real-world discussion, quality of writing, and sources. This is definitely a good article in my opinion, so I'm going to pass this review. Congratulations, and good luck with the other Mandalorian character articles. - adamstom97 (talk) 22:18, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
• Thanks for the review, Adamstom.97! — Hunter Kahn 03:08, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Signet

Hello, it seems like this article could use mention of the character not having a signet and then getting one based on the mudhorn creature. It seems like The Armorer has some signet-related content that could be mentioned here too. In the same vein, perhaps some mention of this character and The Child being a "clan of two". Possible sources include [1], [2], [3]. Pinging Hunter Kahn as the primary contributor. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 19:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't think this has enough merit to justfy its own section. It's a plot point that doesn't have any supplemental details that affect the rest of the story. --GimmeChoco44 (talk) 03:06, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

I agree that it does not need its own section. I think it should be woven somewhere in the existing sections, though, based on the aforementioned links. If the signet is to be covered anywhere among the set of articles, this is the best one. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 10:48, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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Requested move 18 October 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 22:48, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

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The Mandalorian (Star Wars character) → The Mandalorian (character) – Since no one brought it up, according to this section of WP:NCTV, "If the character's name is the same as the show's title or if the character appears in many different titles, use Character name (character). Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 22:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose. Current title is completely fine per two previous RMs proposing the same exact name change. --Gonnym (talk) 22:59, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
  • But that doesn't take in the fact that "The Mandalorian" is the title character, and per, WP:NCTV, he should have his article end with "(character)". Some Dude From North Carolina^{wanna talk?} 00:18, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support. Note that WP:NCTV was cited by opposers in the RM last year, but the relevant section of NCTV was changed this May (diff) based on this discussion: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)#RfC on character titling in special cases — BegbertBiggs (talk) 09:31, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support per WP:CONCISE. -- Calidum 14:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support per BegbertBigg and WP:CONCISE. El Millo (talk) 16:48, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
• Support per WP:CONCISE, and it conveys the same exact information without ambiguity. Hummerrocket (talk) 03:07, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

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Requested move 10 December 2020

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Mandalorian (character) → The Mandalorian (character) – "The" was removed from the article's title without any discussion. He is referred to as "the Mandalorian" in most media, not just Mandalorian. Also including "the" makes it clear that it's about a specific Mandalorian, and not just Mandalorians in general. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 00:17, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

The move from The Mandalorian to Mandalorian was a weird decision and I don't understand why it was done without any discussion either, since previous moves were made only after discussion and consensus. Din Djarin is known as "The Mandalorian" or Mando. Please restore "The Mandalorian" (either of The Mandalorian (Star Wars character) or The Mandalorian (character) would be fine. Even changing the page to "Din Djarin" would make more sense than this last move to Mandalorian (character). -- 109.79.83.218 (talk) 09:19, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

• Support Per nom; the move was by User:Axem Titanium without discussion, which is bad Wikipedia practice for such a popular page. Also heavily suggest move protection for this page due to the move warring going on._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 10:15, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
• Support/speedy revert and close In ictu oculi (talk) 11:01, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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support the mandolorian is inconsise and it could just mean any mando

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Image

I think that we should use a different image for the article. The image currently used shows him in his original armor. However, he only wore that for the first two episodes. By the third episode, he got new armor that he has worn in every episode since. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 00:54, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

The image with the old armor was the promotional photo that was widely used and available to all before the show was released. If you want to use a different image the hard part is choosing a different suitable image and getting the Copyright/fair use rationale sorted out. Ideally it would be another widely used publicity image. Also you will need to pick an image that other editors wont complain about so it needs to be a fairly similar headshot profile type picture. So if you're volunteering grasp the nettle and deal with hassle of the copyright process and difficultly of picking an image that people wont say is worse then please go for it (but it is such a hassle I wouldn't even try add a non-free image to Wikipedia). Good luck with that. -- 109.79.68.156 (talk) 15:06, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Article Title

The character's real name (Din Djarin) has caught up. I mean, who calls him "The Mandalorian" now? The article title for Cobb Vanth is not 'The Marshal (character)'. So, I think that the article should by moved to Din Djarin.--Sudipto Surjo (talk) 04:02, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't think we're there yet. (Cobb Vanth is different, an already established character brought to live-action. Cobb Vanth was his name, The Marshal was only an episode title.) The characters in the show don't call The Mandalorian by his birthname Din Djarin, he gets called Mando mostly. You could make an argument for WP:COMMONNAME if Disney used the name Din Djarin more often but I'm not seeing it used for merchandise or anything like that either. The article title "The Mandalorian (character)" still seems like the best title for the page and it was repeatedly discussed and decided already. -- 109.77.210.114 (talk) 22:30, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Having been discussed in the past is not particularly relevant. The most recent was over a year ago and had been nearly a year when the argument was made. The character is referred to as Din Djarin in every other major wiki covering the topic, many general-purpose publications are using his name in article titles now [example][example][example], characters are referring to him as Din Djarin, and, most importantly IMO, he's no longer even A Mandalorian, let alone THE Mandalorian. Now, on that last point, that may be fixed any number of ways, so if that's the only argument anybody considers to have any merit then waiting to see would be valid, but it appears to me the growing prominence of his real name is at the very least at a tipping point, if not already past it. CamdenQ (talk) 06:13, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

In my opinion it depends on if you want Wikipedia to be for Star Wars nerds or for everybody. I've seen most of the movies and TV shows but never read any novels. So I might be called a fan but not super fan and the name "Din Djarin" only occured to me in a Wikipedia article and nowhere else. At first I didn't know who that is whereas "The Mandalorian" was well known to me. Actually I found it rather strange that he was refered to as Din Djarin all the time instead of the Mandalorian because noone calls him by that name. If you want to name articles after the "real" name or birth name of someone instead of the most well known name a lot of articles about celebrities would have to be changed as well. Or take Princess Leia for instance. Her article would have to be called Leia Organa because Princess is not her name but her title. But everybody knows her as Princess Leia so the article title is perfectly fine. And the same goes with The Mandalorian because everybody knows him as such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.187.214.15 (talk) 11:57, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 9 February 2022

The Mandalorian (character) → Din Djarin – The character's real name is growing to be more prominent, being referred to as such in both the primary and many secondary sources, especially after he's canonically no longer considered a Mandalorian. Unnamed anon (talk) 20:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support. I agree with proposer. Din Djarin is specific and clear. The Mandalorian, even with disambiguator "(character)", is becoming vague now. Neocorelight (Talk) 13:45, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support Din Djarin is his name and The Mandalorian is becoming less helpful to disambiguate who or what that is. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 14:50, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose The WP:COMMONNAME is still "The Mandalorian". Showiecz (talk) 19:45, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  I doubt it. Neocorelight (Talk) 22:50, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

  Do you have any actual evidence to suggest that it's not no longer the common name? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:49, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  [4][5][6][7][8] – Muboshgu (talk) 18:05, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  ,Two of your sources use Mando and the Mandalorian just as much as Din Djarin, so they prove nothing. Most merchandise still refers to him as The Mandalorian [9]. I can produce articles that don't use Din Djarin at all. [10]. The AV Club pretty much exclusively uses Mando and the Mandalorian in their reviews. [11] A couple of articles using Din Djarin is not enough to show that it's the common name. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 18:26, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  My search was not exhaustive, but it was meant to demonstrate that the name "Din Djarin" is sufficiently in use for the WP:PRECISION argument. The Armorer, Bo-Katan Kryze, Paz Vizsla, etc are also Mandalorians. Hell, Grogu is a Mandalorian foundling (hope everybody here watched ep. 7) – Muboshgu (talk) 18:51, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support per WP:PRECISION; there are other Mandalorians out there. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:06, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
• Support His real name has become the primary way he is identified in the story, and this will help avoid confusion with the series of the same name. --GimmeChoco44 (talk) 03:28, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose The Mandalorian is still clearly the common name. Din Djarin has only been used on the shows an extremely small number of times. He is also still extremely commonly referred to as The Mandalorian (or Mando) by third party sources. Things might change after the next season comes out, but as of now, I simply see nobody show any evidence that Din Djarin has become the common name. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 17:48, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  Commonname should be about real-life use, not its use in-universe. Neocorelight (Talk) 22:32, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  https://www.ign.com/articles/why-some-mandalorians-can-remove-their-helmets-while-others-cant-2?amp=1 sources such as this are using "Din Djarin" for precision. Because that's the character's name. Neocorelight (Talk) 22:50, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  And sources like this [12], [13], and this [14] only use Mando/Mandalorian, and that's not even counting all of the official merchandise, which all still use the Mandalorian. Yes, more sources have started to use Din Djarin then before, but there isn't enough evidence that it has surpassed the Mandalorian as the common name, and the majority of sources that use Din Djarin also mention the name Mando and/or the Mandalorian being used by him. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 23:34, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  Of course sources that use Din Djarin also mention the name Mando, that's his alias. Not that it's his most identifiable name. Neocorelight (Talk) 23:43, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  Oppose per @JDDJS: When other characters are talking about The Mandalorian when he is not there, they even say The Mandalorian. Poindextero (talk) 22:17, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Note If the argument is not that it's the common name but rather just the confusion of the title, wouldn't "The Mandalorian (Din Djarin)" be a better title, just like we do with comic book characters? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 20:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  "The Mandalorian (Din Djarin)" is far less precise than "Din Djarin". – Muboshgu (talk) 20:48, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

  But it would still keep the actual common name (The Mandalorian) in the title. It's what we do for comic book characters. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 21:04, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

• Support Better to distinguish between the character and the TV series. Plus, it could be like the MCU and DCEU articles where the characters' real names are used instead of their titles/aliases. Saimcheeda (talk) 01:29, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
• Oppose: Darth Vader is referred to in more media as Anakin Skywalker, but the WP:COMMONNAME is still Darth Vader. The same is true of The Mandalorian. He has been referred to as Din Djarin three times, but is primarily referred to as The Mandalorian or Mando. 125.209.111.232 (talk) 15:03, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

  I do not know that that's the case, and I know that it wasn't prior to Episode I in 1999. Anakin is pre-falling to the dark side and Vader is from cutting off Mace Windu's hands and on. As Obi Wan said, he ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. Not the same situation re: COMMONNAME or PRECISION. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:29, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

• Comment Im just pointing out that if we are going for common name, He is referred to as Djarin in The Book of Boba Fett. I do not remember ever hearing The Mandalorian. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 00:18, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

He is called Mando and The Mandalorian by Peli Motto and Luke Skywalker, but that's because they don't know his name. However, he is referred to as Din Djarin by The Armorer and Boba Fett, and also "The Mandalorian" is a misleading title for a character who isn't considered one by fellow mandalorians. Unnamed anon (talk) 02:25, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Also Fennec calls him Djarin. ― Kaleeb18^Talk_Caleb 03:55, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

"The Mandalorian Din Djarin".

He isn't currently considered one by the Children of the Watch, of which there are only two people still alive other than himself: The Armorer and Paz Vizsla, but he still sees himself as one, living by the Creed and staying with Boba to fight in the last episode, primarily referred to as The Mandalorian. That plotline (The Mandalorian 2.5) was set-up for The Mandalorian Season 3, having his status restored. It is not the same situation as Grogu: we found out The Mandalorian's name in the first season finale back in 2020, and pretty much everyone calls him The Mandalorian or Mando. It is again like Darth Vader versus Anakin Skywalker. WP:COMMONNAME. 125.209.111.232 (talk) 10:16, 14 February 2022 (UTC)