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== Whose mother died? ==
I've corrected an amusing mixup in the opening paragraph.

It read: "... granddaughter of L'Oréal Paris founder Eugène Schueller. His mother passed away in September 2017 ..."

Eugène was Francoise's grandfather, so his mother would be her great-grandmother. It would remarkable if she was still alive in 2017.

It's clear from the Biography section further down that it was Françoise's mother who passed away in 2017.

What probably caused this error (there are three further examples in the same sentence that I have also fixed) is a translation error from a French source. Possessive pronouns in French work differently to English, taking their grammatical gender from the thing possessed rather than the possessor as in English. This confuses translation bots, who have no information about which gender the possessor is. So they often get it wrong. A human can use the wider context to see it's Françoise not Eugene.
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Pronunciation of Meyers

An unsigned editor previously removed the [s] from the French pronunciation of Meyers saying "[ʁs] is not a possible coda in french", which is patently false (e.g. Mars, ours). French news channels pronounce the name [mɛjɛʁs] as does her family lawyer (video). --Iceager (talk) 03:59, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

lake images

add more images Piyushyaadav (talk) 17:46, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Whose mother died?

I've corrected an amusing mixup in the opening paragraph.

It read: "... granddaughter of L'Oréal Paris founder Eugène Schueller. His mother passed away in September 2017 ..."

Eugène was Francoise's grandfather, so his mother would be her great-grandmother. It would remarkable if she was still alive in 2017.

It's clear from the Biography section further down that it was Françoise's mother who passed away in 2017.

What probably caused this error (there are three further examples in the same sentence that I have also fixed) is a translation error from a French source. Possessive pronouns in French work differently to English, taking their grammatical gender from the thing possessed rather than the possessor as in English. This confuses translation bots, who have no information about which gender the possessor is. So they often get it wrong. A human can use the wider context to see it's Françoise not Eugene. Istobe (talk) 01:52, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]