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Not "LA Race Riots"?
Hey, I'm British and don't have a great grounding in this topic - but I've always known this event referred to as "The LA Race Riots". For instance, the TV show "Drawn Together" references this name in a scene.
Is this name NOT used today, for some specific reason? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.148.47.52 (talk) 15:46, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
As an American, everyone here has always referred to this event as "The LA riot" or "the LA riots". Presumably the inclusion of race in the British title serves to clarify the nature of the riots for people who don't know. TheNavigatrr (talk) 15:28, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
US political activist here. I hear this referred to as the LA Rodney King Protests, or Uprising. Riot is perjorative and a consensus mainstream media term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiltonhall (talk • contribs) 23:40, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
- That is insane. It was pretty clearly a riot. --Bongwarrior (talk) 04:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- These were clearly not protests and I have not seen them being described as such anywhere. However the term Rodney King Riots is also used, and as far as I am concerned, what the riots were actually called in 1992. On the other topic, it's hard to say why they aren't considered race riots, as the Tulsa Race Riots were considered as such. The 1992 L.A Riots seem to fix the description with the widespread race-based looting and violence. Azaan Habib 16:02, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
Article title and POV leanings.
I've been going through the history of riots, many seem to appear to be in the USA. There appears to be a common theme however in the titling of articles on Wikipedia. Race riots where the rioting group were white are listed and named as race riots, but where it's any other group it's simply listed as a 'riot' and the entire angle of the article is revisionist. I'm from a non-English speaking background in southeast Asia, and find this hypocrisy to be quite perplexing. Numerous editors (especially foreigners such as myself) point out in the history of this talk page that it should be termed a race riot, yet it appears to be outright ignored.
Can someone please enlighten me why there appears to be blatant NPOV slants on this issue? As someone with no dog in this race attempting to research the subject I find the overt bias and delegitimization of the victims of these horrific crimes to be very confusing. Vergilianae (talk) 03:49, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Good point, the reason is that the mainstream view in the public debate on these issues is not in fact objective. Therefore NPOV does not really mean 'no point of view', it just means not diverting from the mainstream view (in the media, because those are the sources). The victims of the current riot - even if they are black storeowners - will also matter less. We can only wait for the day not far from now, that these pages will be retiteled, since now rioting is just 'protesting'. Dg21dg21 (talk) 22:50, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Why is it assumed that Koreatown was only attacked because white areas were better protected? When Baltimore rioted over Freddie Gray the crowds there targeted Korean owned businesses and there isn't a white person of note in the power structure of that city. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.162.0.126 (talk) 17:47, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Korean-Americans or Koreans?
Why is the term "Korean-Americans" used systematically throughout the article?
Presumably, many of the people involved were just Korean, i.e. from Korea.
Do we have evidence that the ethnically Korean people discussed in the article were born in the U.S. or had American citizenship? 70.18.47.212 (talk) 06:00, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- It generally just refers to any ethnically Korean people living in Los Angeles. They were often store owners too and I presume American citizens, considering that the main wave of Korean immigration came a few years before 1992. Azaan Habib 15:57, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
Semi Protection
We should really add semi-protection to this Article since it talks about race SterlingTea (talk) 23:20, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Isn't whether it has protection more about how often people vandalize? It doesn't really seem like that's happened a lot so it should be okay without protection. The Spirit of Oohoowahoo (talk) 13:30, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- If there is frequent vandalism on the page or topic it is often semi-protected, for example, any article relating to the Arab-Israeli Conflict is extended protected. But there is no vandalism here so it is not required. Azaan Habib 15:59, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
"robbed of nearly $2000"
In "Attack on Fidel Lopez", it says he was robbed of nearly $2000. Is that 1992 money or today's money? If the answer is the former, I suggest adding: "...nearly $2,000 ($4,000 in 2022) source: https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1992?amount=1 Poopykibble (talk) 20:37, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- The {{Inflation}} template will calculate inflated dollar values for you automatically, which removes the need to update the page yearly. For example, ({{Inflation|US|2000|1992|fmt=eq|r=-2}}{{Inflation/fn|US}}) produces "(equivalent to $4,300 in 2023[1])". Alex Cohn (let's chat!) 20:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ok thanks but I want to know if that $2000 was 1992 money or today's money. Poopykibble (talk) 22:01, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- I just added a source for that number, a 2012 LA Times interview with Lopez that states "Not only was he badly injured on that day in 1992, but his truck was torched and his tools stolen by thugs who also made off with $2,000 Lopez had intended to deposit at a bank." I don't think there's any way to read that sentence as adjusted for inflation; it's 1992 dollars. For what it's worth, the $2000 figure was added to this page in 2005. --Alex Cohn (let's chat!) 18:35, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Alright thanks Poopykibble (talk) 21:33, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- I just added a source for that number, a 2012 LA Times interview with Lopez that states "Not only was he badly injured on that day in 1992, but his truck was torched and his tools stolen by thugs who also made off with $2,000 Lopez had intended to deposit at a bank." I don't think there's any way to read that sentence as adjusted for inflation; it's 1992 dollars. For what it's worth, the $2000 figure was added to this page in 2005. --Alex Cohn (let's chat!) 18:35, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Ok thanks but I want to know if that $2000 was 1992 money or today's money. Poopykibble (talk) 22:01, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- ^ 1634–1699: McCusker, J. J. (1997). How Much Is That in Real Money? A Historical Price Index for Use as a Deflator of Money Values in the Economy of the United States: Addenda et Corrigenda (PDF). American Antiquarian Society. 1700–1799: McCusker, J. J. (1992). How Much Is That in Real Money? A Historical Price Index for Use as a Deflator of Money Values in the Economy of the United States (PDF). American Antiquarian Society. 1800–present: Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis. "Consumer Price Index (estimate) 1800–". Retrieved February 29, 2024.
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