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Change "insurrectionists" to "peaceful pro-democracy protesters." [[User:Beriajohn|Beriajohn]] ([[User talk:Beriajohn|talk]]) 00:56, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Change "insurrectionists" to "peaceful pro-democracy protesters." [[User:Beriajohn|Beriajohn]] ([[User talk:Beriajohn|talk]]) 00:56, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
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== Separate Section for Racial Profiling ==

Her comments on racial profiling need there own section because judging upon the controversy of the statements, they are less of “political statements” and more on the specific issue of racial profiling. I mean this in an unbiased way. [[User:Wheresaaronat|Wheresaaronat]] ([[User talk:Wheresaaronat|talk]]) 22:20, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Revision as of 22:20, 16 March 2022

Problems with today's addition

I deleted today's addition first because an unverified YouTube podcast is not a WP:RS. It was re-added with a deprecated unreliable source, so it needs to be deleted again. Furthermore, the category Category:American traditionalist Catholics falls under WP:EGRS and the accompanying high standards of sourcing and self-identification. If Johnson does not explicitly call herself a "Traditionalist" in a WP:RS then we cannot apply the category. I am unable to revert further due to WP:1RR. Elizium23 (talk) 01:39, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree and have reverted. —JBL (talk) 11:47, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Oh, goodness, are we having trouble with her Catholic status again?" quickly slides to "Oy, have I been editing this article for nine years now?!?" --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2020 (UTC) [reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2021

change anti-abortion to pro-life Nicoleta E. Luca (talk) 11:47, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:56, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
More to the point, there is a well-established consensus not to use less accurate and more polemical terms when accurate, neutral terms are available. See e.g. this discussion from the talk-page archive. --JBL (talk) 13:18, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is consensus to NOT use that term THROUGHOUT Wikipedia's articles: Please see Talk:Anti-abortion movements/FAQ Q: "Should this article's title be pro-life movement?" A: No. Wikipedia does not use euphemisms. The term "pro-life" is a branding or marketing device and does not reflect the sole focus of the movement, which is opposition to abortion. The fact that the two sides officially call themselves "pro-life" and "pro-choice" is not a reason for Wikipedia to prefer those terms, since neither is neutral, nor accurately describes their positions. ---Avatar317(talk) 23:34, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Concur with Avatar317 above. StarHOG (Talk) 14:54, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2021

CHANGE: “ compared to Norma McCorvey, the "Jane Roe" of Roe v. Wade, the United States Supreme Court case that legalized abortion in 1973. McCorvey joined the anti-abortion movement in 1995.[14]”

TO: compared to Norma McCorvey, the "Jane Roe" of Roe v. Wade, the United States Supreme Court case that legalized abortion in 1973. McCorvey joined the anti-abortion movement in 1995[14] and later admitted that she never really supported the anti-choice movement, but “took their money and they put me out in front of the camera and told me what to say, and that’s what I’d say.”

CITATION: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/jane-roe-from-roe-v-wade-made-a-stunning-deathbed-confession-now-what/2020/05/20/fad9d296-9a09-11ea-89fd-28fb313d1886_story.html%3foutputType=amp 2601:600:C67F:6030:D021:BE5:7A3D:D561 (talk) 15:41, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: WP:COATRACK; what McCorvey has done or claims to have done is irrelevant to a biography about Abby Johnson. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:06, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2021

Change "insurrectionists" to "peaceful pro-democracy protesters." Beriajohn (talk) 00:56, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template.--JBL (talk) 01:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Separate Section for Racial Profiling

Her comments on racial profiling need there own section because judging upon the controversy of the statements, they are less of “political statements” and more on the specific issue of racial profiling. I mean this in an unbiased way. Wheresaaronat (talk) 22:20, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]