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Sorry, but this decision was based on factual error. Frankly, I can't understand what the nay-sayers were Googling? There are at least 2 places one can err when spelling his name and as noted in his intro on Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Seas 16, Ep 2, even the BBC messed up as he was on the credits of The Office as Ewan. I easily found info about him (found by typing the correct spelling as above) on the BBC-The Office page and an entry in IMDB that includes his DOB, extensive filmography, 2 reviews from reliable sources and even some trivia! IMO, all of the main ensemble characters in a series as important as The Office should have a character page and an actor page. Even if you don't agree, it's very odd that an actor with as extensive a filmography should not have his own Wiki page when many, more obscure, actors do. I offer to rewrite the page adding these references, and any more I can find, if they are deemed adequate. [[User:Yickbob|Yickbob]] ([[User talk:Yickbob|talk]]) 18:56, 8 June 2011 (UTC) |
Sorry, but this decision was based on factual error. Frankly, I can't understand what the nay-sayers were Googling? There are at least 2 places one can err when spelling his name and as noted in his intro on Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Seas 16, Ep 2, even the BBC messed up as he was on the credits of The Office as Ewan. I easily found info about him (found by typing the correct spelling as above) on the BBC-The Office page and an entry in IMDB that includes his DOB, extensive filmography, 2 reviews from reliable sources and even some trivia! IMO, all of the main ensemble characters in a series as important as The Office should have a character page and an actor page. Even if you don't agree, it's very odd that an actor with as extensive a filmography should not have his own Wiki page when many, more obscure, actors do. I offer to rewrite the page adding these references, and any more I can find, if they are deemed adequate. [[User:Yickbob|Yickbob]] ([[User talk:Yickbob|talk]]) 18:56, 8 June 2011 (UTC) |
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*I've fixed the DRV links template above with the actual title of the deleted article. While it should have been at [[Ewen MacIntosh]], it was not, and this will make it far easier for us to properly review the deleted page.<br>I don't see the factual errors you mention. The two sources you found do not do terribly much to establish notability, for Wikipedia's purposes. The BBC-The Office page isn't third party, the IMDB is user-written and therefore not reliable, and the two reviews linked from it only mention Ewen in passing. Do you have anything else? [[User:Lifebaka|<i style="color:green;">lifebaka</i>]][[User talk:Lifebaka|'''++''']] 19:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC) |
*I've fixed the DRV links template above with the actual title of the deleted article. While it should have been at [[Ewen MacIntosh]], it was not, and this will make it far easier for us to properly review the deleted page.<br>I don't see the factual errors you mention. The two sources you found do not do terribly much to establish notability, for Wikipedia's purposes. The BBC-The Office page isn't third party, the IMDB is user-written and therefore not reliable, and the two reviews linked from it only mention Ewen in passing. Do you have anything else? [[User:Lifebaka|<i style="color:green;">lifebaka</i>]][[User talk:Lifebaka|'''++''']] 19:49, 8 June 2011 (UTC) |
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*It's bizarre that there isn't more coverage for this guy, but there really doesn't seem to be. Peculiar. I think we have to endorse. As a separate matter of editorial judgment I would suggest replacing the redlink with a redirect to [[Keith Bishop (The Office)]] for the time being.—[[User:S Marshall|< |
*It's bizarre that there isn't more coverage for this guy, but there really doesn't seem to be. Peculiar. I think we have to endorse. As a separate matter of editorial judgment I would suggest replacing the redlink with a redirect to [[Keith Bishop (The Office)]] for the time being.—[[User:S Marshall|<span style="font-family:Verdana; color:maroon;">'''S Marshall'''</span>]] <small>[[User talk:S Marshall|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/S Marshall|C]]</small> 11:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC) |
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*:I'd say go ahead and do it. We might want to hist-merging the deleting content in under the redirect, to make it easier to recreate the article when some coverage surfaces, as well. Cheers. [[User:Lifebaka|<i style="color:green;">lifebaka</i>]][[User talk:Lifebaka|'''++''']] 00:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC) |
*:I'd say go ahead and do it. We might want to hist-merging the deleting content in under the redirect, to make it easier to recreate the article when some coverage surfaces, as well. Cheers. [[User:Lifebaka|<i style="color:green;">lifebaka</i>]][[User talk:Lifebaka|'''++''']] 00:21, 10 June 2011 (UTC) |
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*''temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review'' '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 19:17, 9 June 2011 (UTC) |
*''temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review'' '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 19:17, 9 June 2011 (UTC) |
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To whom it may concern, I humbly ask you to replace the following page content on the Fraser Committee page. The following information has been recently deleted from the, Findings of the committee section. It is an Accurate summary of the committees findings. Thank you for your time. The subcommittee findings regarding the Moon Organization may be summarized as follows: (1) The UC and numerous other religious and secular organizations headed by Sun Myung Moon constitute essentially one international organization. This organization depends heavily upon the interchangeability of its components and upon its ability to move personnel and financial assets freely across international boundaries and between businesses and nonprofit organizations. (2) The Moon Organization attempts to achieve goals outlined by Sun Myung Moon, who has substantial control over the economic, political, and spiritual activities undertaken by the organization in pursuit of those goals. (3) Among the goals of the Moon Organization is the establishment of a worldwide government in which the separation of church and state would be abolished and which would be governed by Moon and his followers. (4) In pursuit of this and other goals, the Moon Organization has attempted, with varying degrees of success, to gain control over or establish business and other secular institutions in the United States and elsewhere, and has engaged in political activities in the United States. Some of these activities were undertaken to benefit the ROK Government or otherwise to influence U.S. foreign policy. (5) While pursuing its own goals, the Moon Organization promoted the interests of the ROK Government, and at times did so in cooperation with, or at the direction of, ROK agencies and officials. The Moon Organization maintained mutually beneficial ties with a number of Korean officials. (6) The Moon Organization established the KCFF ostensibly as a non- profit foundation to promote Korean-American relations, but used the KCFF to promote its own political and economic interests and those of the ROK Government. (7) The Moon Organization extensively used the names of Senators, Congressmen, U.S. Presidents, and other prominent Americans to raise funds and to create political influence for itself and the ROK Government. (8) A Moon Organization business is an important defense contractor in Korea. It is involved in the production of M-16 rifles, antiaircraft guns, and other weapons. (9) Moon Organization agents attempted to obtain permission from an American corporation to export M-16’s manufactured in Korea. The M-16’s are manufactured under a coproduction agreement approved by the U.S. Government, which puts M-16 production under the exclusive control of the Korean Government. Despite this, Moon Organization representatives appeared -- apparently on behalf of the Korean Government -- to negotiate an extension of the agreement. (10) The Moon Organization attempted to obtain a controlling interest in the Diplomat National Bank by disguising the source of funds used to purchase stock in the names of UC members. (12) The Moon Organization used church and other tax-exempt components in support of its political and economic activities. (13) Although many of the goals and activities of the Moon Organization were legitimate and lawful, there was evidence that it had systematically violated U.S. tax, immigration, banking, currency, and Foreign Agents Registration Act laws, as well as State and local laws related to charity fund, and that these violations were related to the organization’s overall goals of gaining temporal power. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.5.104 (talk) 20:43, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
This is actual text from the original page. I have brought my argument to the correct place and wikipedia does not require me to register to post. Thank you again for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.23.253 (talk) 02:32, 9 June 2011 (UTC) |
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The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
Sorry, but this decision was based on factual error. Frankly, I can't understand what the nay-sayers were Googling? There are at least 2 places one can err when spelling his name and as noted in his intro on Never Mind the Buzzcocks, Seas 16, Ep 2, even the BBC messed up as he was on the credits of The Office as Ewan. I easily found info about him (found by typing the correct spelling as above) on the BBC-The Office page and an entry in IMDB that includes his DOB, extensive filmography, 2 reviews from reliable sources and even some trivia! IMO, all of the main ensemble characters in a series as important as The Office should have a character page and an actor page. Even if you don't agree, it's very odd that an actor with as extensive a filmography should not have his own Wiki page when many, more obscure, actors do. I offer to rewrite the page adding these references, and any more I can find, if they are deemed adequate. Yickbob (talk) 18:56, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
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Overturn and restore. No further discussion with admin, who offered me to try Deletion Review Alyadem (talk) 10:12, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
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