Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Honey (Mariah Carey song)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. That doesn't mean you're not allowed to clean it up, hint, hint ... fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 13:10, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Honey (Mariah Carey song)

The more I browse, the worse it becomes: yet another e-team lead piece of marketing that with sources would barely qualify for inclusion in MC's bio. Without sources and with a monstrous libel-in-waiting, this is clearly an AfD. I also seem to have enormous problems linking this to the appropriate deletion page.--HasBeen 11:14, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. In fact this should be a speedy keep. The community's position on this issue is clear enough that there is no sense in cluttering the article with the AfD template. Everyking 11:21, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
• Delete No, the position is very clear: no verifiable sources, no article. The bukakke lie is hillarious but legally actionable. Similarly the argument that singles should be amalgamated into pop bios is going on right now at the water pump.--HasBeen 11:29, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
  • It can all be verified pretty easily, though. All highly notable info. You don't go deleting a notable article because no one has bothered to source it yet; you add the sources yourself, or you wait for someone else to do it. The bukkake interpretation can either be sourced or removed; it is in no way an argument for deleting this article, and it certainly isn't "legally actionable". Everyking 11:33, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and cleanup. Crappy song, but still a notable single. --badlydrawnjeff 14:53, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep and reference. Notable hit single. Capitalistroadster 16:52, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Number one hit single in the U.S. and Japan, and it also reached the top ten in several other countries. Article establishes additional notability besides that. I suggest that the nominator familiarise himself with the notability guidelines for songs before listing any more song articles at AfD. Extraordinary Machine 18:02, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep as per Everyking....why is this even up for discussion!? Jcuk 20:34, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
• Speedy keep AfD is not cleanup. howcheng {chat} 22:41, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
• E-teamers from hell... or heaven if you're Sony records I guess. So, a blatant commercial for a minor single from a half-recognised corporate recording popstar outside of the USA, without verifiable references gets its own page all to itself? Why should this information not feature in her bio? That's all I want addressed... Please do attempt to enlighten me, otherwise copy to bio and delete. Also, do join us at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) under Defending Wikipedia from commercial advertising...--HasBeen 09:34, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep I find it unlikely that this article on an eight year old single is some sort of advert. The article is actually quite informative and looking at its history, some of the major editors seem to be coming from musically inclined backgrounds. The article could use some cleaning up, and definitely some sources, but together they do not equal an AfD. Tom Foolery 00:20, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Wether you like it or not, it's still a Mariah Carey # 1 single. I f you delete this one, wy no delete the other 16?
  • That's the point: the nominator wants to delete them all. Everyking 12:22, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
• Keep ditto to above posts. Crumbsucker
• Keep, as per the majority of the above comments. —Hollow Wilerding . . . (talk) 18:11, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.