User talk:Newslinger

Page redirect help

Hello Newslinger, A page name and redirect was done recently, changing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform) to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardano_(blockchain_platform)

The result was that page views on Wikipedia fell by 2/3. I looked at a redirect for Ripple you did in 2018, and there was no effect on traffic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripple_(payment_protocol)#XRP Has redirect from https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Xrp&redirect=no

Would you be able you be to check whether the redirect was done properly, please? IOHKwriter (talk) 14:46, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Appeal

I would like to appeal the latest result. An indefinite topic ban is too harsh and not fair, especially that the topic is very big and, since it's broadly construed, it covers about all of the articles I'm intrested in. I think the result ignored my cooparation and later attempts at fix the issues.-- Maudslay II (talk) 06:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Just my 2 cents: I also think the result for User:Maudslay II is a tad harsh, for "first offence", so to speak. Though Maudslay II was sloppy on sources, they were correct on substance, in the articles I was able to check. There is eg, no doubt that the Israelis were behind the Maarakeh massacre, and loads of other bombings and assassinations in Lebanon at the time (just read Rise and Kill First, or their use of Front for the Liberation of Lebanon from Foreigners). Since Maudslay II is a relatively new editor (~1000 edits), may I suggest a 6 months topic-ban would be an idea? Huldra (talk) 20:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

If the user will edit constructively the topic ban may be lifted in six month --Shrike (talk) 20:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure if Newslinger has been notified that there is an appeal at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Maudslay II. Johnuniq (talk) 07:17, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

DS 2021 Review Update

Dear Newslinger,

Thank you for participating in the recent discretionary sanctions community consultation. We are truly appreciative of the range of feedback we received and the high quality discussion which occurred during the process. We have now posted a summary of the feedback we've received and also a preview of some of what we expect to happen next. We hope that the second phase, a presentation of draft recommendations, will proceed on time in June or early July. You will be notified when this phase begins, unless you choose to to opt-out of future mailings by removing your name here.
--Barkeep49 & KevinL (aka L235) 21:05, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Happy Vesak!

Happy Vesak,
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy and Blessed Vesak to you and yours! User:JaMongKut (talk) 18:11, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	You did good work against fake media websites like OpINDIA! Tamjeed Ahmed (talk) 11:51, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Appeal topic ban

Hey I created an appeal for a topic banned you created about two months ago. I was not sure if I needed to include a link for you to know. I hope it can be repealed, due to my apologies for previous actions. Thanks have a good day. [1] 3Kingdoms (talk) 15:17, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Religious sentiments

Please remove love jihad Shailender jain1 (talk) 07:32, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Sourceror

Hi there! I hope things are well. Wanted to check in with you regarding Sourceror, I know Ahmed would like to get in touch with you about closing out the project. Cheers, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 07:35, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello Newslinger:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 1400 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for Creation at 21:54, 7 July 2021 (UTC). If you do not wish to recieve future notification, please remove your name from the mailing list.

Appeal topic ban

Hey I created an appeal for a topic banned you created in March. I hope it can be repealed, due to my apologies for previous actions. Thanks have a good day. [2] 3Kingdoms (talk) 01:57, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Listing of Forbes magazine

You appear to have contributed to the discussion of Forbes magazine as a reliable source last April which resulted in what looks like an odd addition to the Reliable Sources list for Forbes. It appears odd because "Forbes" is listed as reliable but "Forbes.com" is listed as unreliable. This does not appear to work because many of Forbes staff writers have they articles available on Forbes.com as that magazine's electronic data base. The current presentation of these two sources as on the one hand reliable and on the other hand unreliable appears further to be inconsistent since the Forbes staff writers have their articles in both places. Could you glance at this on the listing of reliable sources page since they are listed back-to-back? ErnestKrause (talk) 16:09, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

ErnestKrause, I would suggest taking a look at the list again, it refers to Forbes.com contributors as unreliable. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 16:15, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back. The distinction of the two sources seems to say that Forbes.com is unreliable since it does not currently state an exception for Forbes staff writers. Also, since contributors do appear in the hard-copy version of the magazine, this distinction of staff versus contributor does not seem easy to apply. The hard-copy magazine which publishes both staff articles and contributor articles is reliable, but the contributors on Forbes.com, which include those published contributor articles in the hard-copy magazine, are unreliable? ErnestKrause (talk) 16:32, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) comment: The unreliable rating is applied specifically to Forbes.com contributors, not Forbes.com. For print articles by contributor, the description for Forbes.com contributors says Articles that have also been published in the print edition of Forbes are excluded, and are considered generally reliable. Schazjmd (talk) 16:40, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

You doing alright?

Hey. You doing alright Newslinger? You haven't edited in quite a while. NarSakSasLee (talk) 19:54, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Maintenance tag

I'm not sure what my agenda is. It would be nice to know what I'm supposed to fix. My templates?? I wanna figure it out so I can move forward. GetWellSoonJun2921 (talk) 03:20, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Notification

You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Nicoljaus, indef topic ban and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.

Thanks,--Nicoljaus (talk) 10:55, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

Amendment request: Nicoljaus, indef topic ban declined

The amendment request Amendment request: Nicoljaus, indef topic ban, has been declined by the Committee. You can review the closed amendement request here. For the Arbitration Committee, firefly ( t · c ) 12:00, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

You've been absent for awhile

Hope everything is ok. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:58, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Same here. Crossroads ^-talk- 03:53, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Ditto - hope you're OK Girth Summit _(blether) 07:57, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

+1 to this. Your work at WP:RSN is unrivalled. — Bilorv (talk) 10:53, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

++1 to this. I hope you decide to return one day. You are missed. Tayi Arajakate _Talk 19:33, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Missed presence on RSN. Left an impression on a newbie. Hope to see you around again. --Chillabit (talk) 05:12, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

+1; hope all is well. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 03:04, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

+1; I hope all is ok in real life. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 22:24, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Where is Newslinger?

I'm sure someone knows something Renat 13:25, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

He was quite active in protecting the Love Jihad page from Hindu religious extremists from India for a long time. However, several Hindu nationalist forums online directly made threats to his life and also encouraged users to try and hunt him down. From what I can recall at the time he said he was aware of these threats but that didn't seem to have stopped him from editing? I'm hoping nothing has happened to him but you can't really tell with religious extremists. Several weeks ago there was a mass conference involving academics who wanted to discuss the problem of Hindu nationalism in the West and the reaction was horrendously visceral. I'm really hoping Newslinger is okay and hasn't come across anyone who could have threatened his life. Alternatively it could be possible that he's gotten COVID? NarSakSasLee (talk) 23:39, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

You have been pruned from a list

Hi Newslinger! You're receiving this notification because you were previously listed on the AFC's participants list, but you haven't made any edits to the English Wikipedia in over 6 months. Because of your inactivity, you have been removed from the list. If you would like to regain access to the AFCH script, you can do so at any time by visiting WT:AFCP. Thank you for your work at AFC, and if you start editing Wikipedia again we hope you will rejoin us. Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 18:02, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Ad Fontes Media and Media Bias/Fact Check

Both labeled "general unreliable" by Wikipedia users? [3]

Am I the only one who is troubled by this? EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 14:13, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

EnlightenmentNow1792 It concerns me that Wikipedia is ignoring the work of professional organisations set up to assess the reliability of news outlets. I've tried to use Media-bias/fact check to justify a reliability rating of sources, only to be faced with hostility, and even [one accusation] of being associated with the company! I think the [only criticism of Media Bias] is that it's seen as a primary source despite amalgamating decisions from a range of fact checkers. In fact [Wikipedia itself] says "Wikipedia employs no systematic mechanism for fact checking or accuracy"! Why? Perhaps our 'methodology' of deciding reliability ratings on Wikipedia needs to be discussed more generally! --Andromedean (talk) 13:13, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

@EnlightenmentNow1792 and Andromedean: please don't post here. Newslinger hasn't been around for over 6 months, which is concerning. He's not going to reply and you need to have this discussion elsewhere. I'm sure you now that WP:RSN is the appropriate place. Doug Weller talk 11:50, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

@EnlightenmentNow1792: @Andromedean: User:Doug Weller is correct, this should be taken to WP:RSN — again. You are not the only one troubled by this. I started a discussion recently about it at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 350#Allsides.com media bias chart, revisited, but it didn't get anywhere. I'd like to see the Ad Fontes chart un-deprecated. If you start a new discussion, raise the points I raised, and I'm happy to participate. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:00, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Disrupted discussion

Template:Disrupted discussion has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Levivich 16:22, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!

Wishing Newslinger a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Birthday Committee! Best wishes! CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 01:08, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Providing a copy of a deleted page

Dear Wikipedia Admin Michael Grenier: I have been directed to a list of 112 Wikipedia Administrators with the power to provide draft copies of deleted articles. The person who directed me has the username of 'Sandstein'. I contact you because you are among those 112 admins, and I wish to retrieve the writing I did for a now-deleted article named 'Zack: Enfrentamiento Mortal'. I believe this page was deleted on December 11th, 2021. Quick side note that I am the creator of said deleted page. I do not wish for the page to be undeleted, I simply wish to obtain a copy of the page so I can keep it for my own viewing. I have a particular interest in the 'Plot' section of the deleted article, but it would be better if I may receive the whole thing. Thank you very much, OtherPancakes (talk) 20:09, 4 January 2022 (UTC)OtherPancakes

P.S: I got the name wrong. I've contacted multiple admins and this is one of them. I meant to write 'Newslinger' instead. My apologies, OtherPancakes (talk) 20:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC)OtherPancakes

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sciencebasedmedicine.org

Another editor (Llll5032) and myself are editing the BLP of Martin Kulldorff. We are the only two active editors of that page at the moment and we have reached an impasse regarding sciencebasedmedicine.org (SBM) as a reliable source for a BLP.

SBM is used to support a statement regarding the Great Barrington Declaration and therefore brings in to the mix WP:MEDRS.

In light of this closed RfC you contributed to, do you think sciencebasedmedicine.org is useable within a MEDRS + BLP statement?

Our discussion of the topic can be found here.

Thank you very much, in advance, for your assistance.

00:42, 21 January 2022 (UTC) Michael.C.Wright (talk) 00:42, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Michael.C.Wright: Newslinger has not edited for ~8 months. You might be better off asking at WP:RSN again. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:01, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

"GM Card" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect GM Card and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 31#GM Card until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. I've notified you as you made this into a redirect. A7V2 (talk) 01:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Welcome back

Good to see you active; hope all is well. Vanamonde (Talk) 02:48, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Man I am so happy to see you back! Moneytrees🏝️^{Talk/CCI guide} 03:01, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Glad to see you around again! Elli (talk | contribs) 11:31, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Piling on! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:31, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Yeeep, it's great to see you're back! Tayi Arajakate _Talk 15:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Just saw your username in a block notice. Good to have you back on board. Girth Summit _(blether) 08:50, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Wow, almost jumped seeing you pop back up, so glad you're ok! --Chillabit (talk) 07:35, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, everyone! It feels good to be back, and I will continue contributing to Wikipedia for as long as I can. — Newslinger talk 21:55, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

You are invited to join us on FOSS topics!

Hi, Newslinger! Thank you for your contributions to articles related to free and open-source software. I'd like to invite you to become a part of the free and open-source software task force, a project aimed at improving the quality of articles about free and open-source software on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the free and open-source software task force for more information. Feel free to sign your name under "Participants". Thanks! GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 10:56, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I found you since you are currently an official participant of WT:FOSS. It is great to see how much you contribute to Wikipedia every day. Keep up the good work! We would love to have you be an active part of WT:FOSS and FOSS topics too. Feel free to join our talk page to see what recently happened (a lot!) GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 10:56, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi GavriilaDmitriev, thanks again for this invitation. The ongoing 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine is consuming most of my attention right now, but I'll be sure to contribute more time to FOSS topics after things settle down. I'm just letting you know that I intend to contribute more to the WikiProject later on. — Newslinger talk 21:52, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

ANI Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 19:10, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Responded at WP:ANI § User:Newslinger keeps on issuing me bogus warnings. — Newslinger talk 20:30, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

You've got mail

Hello, Newslinger. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. Doug Weller talk 15:58, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks and heads up on my "project"

Thanks for your helpful edits to my two new articles NewsFront (website) and SouthFront. I created those articles after reading about them as major Russian disinformation sites in a 2020 US State Department report. Many of the seven sites mentioned there have no article, so I am working to create articles for some and to improve information about others. I have seen the good work you are doing in several articles about Russian disinformation, so if you have information to add on these topics, I'd welcome your help. HouseOfChange (talk) 19:48, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for creating these articles, HouseOfChange! I'll take a look at them and try to expand them when I get a chance. — Newslinger talk 21:50, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

References

Swarajya edit

You mentioned right-wing being its "defining" characteristic. Says who? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.161.89.214 (talk) 23:27, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Reliable sources consistently describe Swarajya as a "right-wing" magazine; please see the citations at Special:Permalink/1076389263#cite_note-13 for details. Swarajya also openly advertises itself as a political magazine that leans right, as shown in editorial director Sandipan Deb's 2014 interview and Swarajya's current About Us page. As a political magazine, Swarajya's political orientation is a defining characteristic. Wikipedia is not censored and there is no valid reason to hide this information from the article. — Newslinger talk 23:35, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Two questions on SouthFront

1) Would you please share this article deleted in 2017, some of whose sources might be useful? I did not realize when creating SouthFront that there was an older version.

2) According to EU vs Disinformation, "What stood out in our research was the fact that in 2020 the number of SouthFront links added to Wikipedia increased by 397%, and most links were added after the takedown (especially in the second half of the year). Most of the links added to Wikipedia concerned conflicts in the Middle East.."[4] Their numbers include talk as well as article space.

I tried to follow up on this, and found an RfC and a MediaWiki discussion. I found only 4 links to southfront.org, all from talk pages.[5] What puzzles me is that en-wiki blocked links to SouthFront in 2019, but RS describes them as increasing all year throughout 2020. Any insight? HouseOfChange (talk) 17:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi HouseOfChange, I've restored the deleted article to Draft:South Front and the corresponding talk page to Draft talk:South Front, so that the usable content can be merged into the new SouthFront article. I see a couple of useful sources, including an academic journal, so that was a very good call. Thanks for suggesting this!

As for the increase in Wikipedia links to SouthFront in 2020, the data source (marketing firm Semrush) is probably counting links in all language editions of Wikipedia, and not just the English Wikipedia. I can't think of any other explanation. — Newslinger talk 22:35, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

Controversial topic notice

Why post 3 identical notifications on my talk page? It’s not clear to me what each one refers to. Please provide clarification. Thank you. Quadrow (talk) 23:54, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Quadrow, each alert is for a different topic. The first one is for "post-1992 politics of the United States and closely related people", the second one is for "articles about living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles", and the third one is for "the intersection of race/ethnicity and human abilities and behaviour". Additional rules called discretionary sanctions apply to each of these three topic areas. Most editors who are active in these topic areas receive an alert about once per year, per topic area. — Newslinger talk 02:03, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

I would like to thank you for bringing to my attention the additional rules in the initial alert but the second and third alert serves no useful purpose for me as all the information appeared in the first alert as it was not clear that they were for additional topics. Indeed, I initially misconstrued it as spamming. I invite you to remove the repeated alerts and if I engage in any additional controversial discussions, I would be happy to receive a short comment under the same alert telling me which additional topics it applies to. Many thanks for assisting me to make sure I understand the additional rules. Quadrow (talk) 12:02, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

​Per WP:OWNTALK, you're welcome to archive or remove anything from your user talk page, with a few rare exceptions. According to the discretionary sanctions procedures, the annual alerts for each topic area are required for awareness, and the alert templates cannot be substituted with alternative messages. However, if you would like to opt out of these alerts, you can do so by placing the {{Ds/aware}} template on your user talk page and specifying in the template the topic areas you want to opt out of notifications about. If you have not yet read the discretionary sanctions procedures carefully, please take the time to do so, since they apply to all of your edits in these topic areas. — Newslinger talk 14:29, 13 March 2022 (UTC) Edited 16:50, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

ARCA

Re the combined Ds/Gs alert template part, I did this a few months ago. You can use {{alert}} and pass through either a DS or GS topic code and it’ll still work. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 11:15, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for creating Module:Sanctions/AlertHelper! I've removed that part from the amendment request. — Newslinger talk 18:48, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

User:Saber403

Hi, thanks for indeffing Special:Contributions/Saber403. Could you consider revoking their talk page access? They are continuing to be a nuisance, including pinging me. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 07:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

I was just about to ask that. - ZLEA _T\^C 14:44, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for reporting this!​​ — Newslinger talk 19:48, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I'll let you know if similar issues arise, per beans. BilCat (talk) 21:04, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

AIV related Question ?

Hello, Hope you are doing well. I Actually i saw this written on AIV noticeboard Stale reports are automatically cleared by MDanielsBot after 4–8 hours with no action. What is considered as a stale report? Is it unanswered request or request without any actions from admins. Since there are some requests, with a clear reply eg not warned correctly. But my request was cleared by the bot without getting any such reply. I was wondering how it works. Just curious to know. Thankyou. _signed, 511KeV ^(talk) 15:05, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi 511KeV, a report is stale on AIV when it does not result in the reported user being blocked after a certain time frame. The bot does not care whether the report receives a reply, although it removes all replies when it clears a report. According to User:SQL/AIVStale, the time frame is 4 hours when there are 80 or more active administrators in the last hour. When there are fewer active administrators in the last hour, the time frame increases to a maximum of 8 hours for 40 or fewer active administrators. I hope this helps. — Newslinger talk 00:32, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Thankyou. . _signed, 511KeV ^(talk) 02:27, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Hari147

Hi Newslinger, I noticed today that @Hari147: appears to have violated their June 2020 ARBIPA TBAN with every edit they've made since August 2020 [6], and that nobody has noticed, as they've not been prolific. As the admin imposing the sanction, would you be willing to deal with it? Vanamonde (Talk) 05:58, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for noticing this!​ — Newslinger talk 00:57, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! Vanamonde (Talk) 01:04, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions procedure page and templates closed

Amendment request: Discretionary sanctions procedure page and templates has closed. 3 changes to {{ds/alert}}/{{ds/talk notice}} were approved and will be implemented by the Arbitration Committee and the clerk team.

For the Arbitration Committee, –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 18:49, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, MJL! I'll submit proposed edits for the templates as soon as I can. — Newslinger talk 01:09, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Judge dismisses libel lawsuit by Asheville woman following 2016 Trump rally

https://wlos.com/news/local/judge-dismisses-libel-lawsuit-by-asheville-woman-following-2016-trump-rally

yet still cited in the Project Veritas lede. IOW a judge dismissed an secondary source WP deemed reliable enough to use in the lede. The court is the highest publisher of repute. Leaving the above as an actionable libel claim. 2601:46:C801:B1F0:FD41:495D:1EA2:C773 (talk) 01:21, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Legal threats are prohibited on Wikipedia, so please take care not to imply them in your words. There are dozens of citations in the lead section of the Project Veritas article, and it is unclear which one you are referring to. Feel free to submit an edit request at Talk:Project Veritas with a specific description of what you would like to change in the article, accompanied by reliable sources that support that change. — Newslinger talk 01:14, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Notability

Good evening, I am an actress and stunt woman. I am looking to create a wiki page and want to confirm that my page would be considered notable. Are you able to help me?

Thank you Teacherswhorock (talk) 03:48, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

@Teacherswhorock: You shouldn't try to create a wiki page about yourself. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 18:06, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. Im grateful. I do not want to create the page, I am looking for someone to create it for me but am not sure how to go about it. I am listed as a cast member under a tv series here on Wiki, but my name is written in red because i do not have a page. Teacherswhorock (talk) 22:40, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome to add yourself to one of the lists of requested articles if you meet either the general notability guideline or the notability guideline for entertainers, although the list does not guarantee that the article will be written. Generally, for people in the entertainment industry, people who are interested in you (including your viewers, your fans, or others who are aware of you) are the ones who will write the article, without your prompting. My recommendation is to focus on your career: make yourself the best actress you can be, and the publicity will naturally follow. — Newslinger talk 22:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Teacherswhorock, MJL is right. Wikipedia editors are discouraged from editing articles about any topics for which they have a conflict of interest, and that includes articles about themselves or their ventures. If you would like to write about any other topic, the notability guideline explains the requirements that need to be met for a topic to have an article on Wikipedia. — Newslinger talk 01:20, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Discretionary Sanction Notice

"If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor."

You left a notice saying that I have shown "interest" in the "Syrian Civil War and ISIL" as well as " Arab–Israeli conflict". Yet, I haven't edited a single article relating to either one of these topics (unless McDonalds Israel counts). Why were these notices arbitrarily left on my talk page? Can you explain the reasoning behind doing this, when I've never edited any articles related to either topic?

Thank you, PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 08:21, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi PeaceThruPramana26, the MintPress News article is part of both of these topic areas. Please note that, as the top of Talk:MintPress News states, there are active community sanctions on the MintPress News article. In particular, the "Editing restrictions for new editors" restriction prohibits you from editing the MintPress News article and the Talk:MintPress News talk page until you have made 500 edits on your Wikipedia account. — Newslinger talk 08:25, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Actually, you are free to use the talk page. My bad. The full details are at Special:Permalink/1045390397 § Extended confirmed restriction omnibus motion. ​ — Newslinger talk 08:28, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

...the MintPress News article is part of both of these topic areas. Good Evening, Can you show me where this is connection is ? I've never even edited the MintPress News article before (I merely offered a suggestion on the talk page, like I'm supposed to before making contentious edits), and the link between this random left-wing press outlet based in Minnesota and the Greater Syrian Civil War + Arab Israeli conflict seems tenuous at best, even moreso considering the page itself isn't even tied to any categories or wikiprojects involving either Syria+ISIL or the Arab-Israeli conflict, so I really don't see what exactly justifies those warnings, especially seeing as I literally made those edits more than two weeks ago (which then begs the question: Why now?) PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 08:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

The article prominently describes MintPress News's coverage of the Ghouta chemical attack, which is part of the Syrian civil war, as well as its coverage of the Arbaeen pilgrimage claim in relation to ISIL. The article also describes MintPress News's stance on Israel in the context of the Arab–Israeli conflict, and a glance at the website (e.g. in its highlights page) shows that a large portion of its stories focuses on the Arab–Israeli conflict.

User talk page notices can be distracting, so whenever I send a discretionary sanctions alert, I check the editor's recent contributions to identify other topic areas that are covered by discretionary sanctions, and include alerts for all applicable topics. This minimizes the number of times that the editor receives new notices. Generally, I look through the last month's worth of edits or the last 20-ish edits (up to one year old for infrequent editors), whichever is more. Alerts are very important for topic areas affected by the 500-edit/30-day restriction, since it is common for editors who are unaware of the restriction to unintentionally violate it.

Discretionary sanctions notices are also critical for editors who use mobile devices, because the Wikipedia mobile website does not prominently display discretionary sanctions banners on article talk pages. Your edits to Talk:MintPress News are, to date, the only edits you have made on the Wikipedia mobile website, so it was important to send the notice to ensure that you are aware of the restrictions in these topic areas. — Newslinger talk 21:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC) Edited 02:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

None of this still answers why I received three arbitrary messages on my page for a talk page I edited two weeks ago just yesterday, after I coincidentally removed another unwarranted sanctions notice from my talk page hours from another user before; Also, I haven't seen any Wiki bureaucracy discuss MintPress News in relation to Syria or Israel and Palestine? Also, using this logic, any newspaper that covers a story extensively is at risk of being categorised as part of some sort of discretionary sanctions. Can you give me something more concrete which describes MintPress News being related to Palestine-Israel and Syria/ISIL? Thus far, it only seems to be a subjective opinion that MintPress is at all related to the aforementioned topics. PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 06:51, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

"Your edits to Talk:MintPress News are, to date, the only edits you have made on the Wikipedia mobile website, so it was important to send the notice to ensure that you are aware of the restrictions in these topic areas. " So why then did you not send me the notice more two weeks ago when I actually made the edit? You appear to have been active in between that space, and yet I only received these notices after another user accuses me of edit warring, which honestly just strikes me as a bit more than coincidental. PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 06:54, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Addendum: As far as I'm aware, the Wikipedia mobile and Wikipedia site are the same exact website, except the former is merely formatted for web usage. What's the logic of sending me a notice more than two weeks after I make a single edit for merely logging into my mobile phone and editing from there? This all seems really odd and arbitrary. PeaceThruPramana26 (talk) 06:56, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

The MintPress News article has been identified as part of the Syrian Civil War topic area since 2014, and as part of the Arab–Israeli conflict topic area since 2018. If you disagree with this, you are welcome to submit a clarification request to the Arbitration Committee.

I had noticed your 3 April and 4 April edits to WION, an article on my watchlist, and sent you a discretionary sanctions alert for the India, Pakistan, and Afghanistan topic area in response to those edits. Before sending that alert, I scanned your recent contributions, was reminded that you had edited Talk:MintPress News recently, and bundled the alerts for the other two topic areas in the same edit. Since you had apparently not been aware that MintPress News is part of the "Syrian Civil War and ISIL" and Arab–Israeli conflict topic areas before receiving these alerts, but are now aware after having received these alerts, these alerts have served their purpose.

Talk page banners, including discretionary sanctions notices such as {{Gs/talk notice}} and {{Arab-Israeli Arbitration Enforcement}}, are visible on Wikipedia's desktop website, but hidden on Wikipedia's mobile website until the user clicks "About this page" under the page title. Most mobile Wikipedia users do not click "About this page", and are left unaware that the article is covered by discretionary sanctions. Therefore, it is especially important to ensure that mobile Wikipedia users who edit articles (or their corresponding talk pages) that are covered by discretionary sanctions are aware of the rules that are in effect. — Newslinger talk 07:16, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi

Could you please explain to me how my dicussions are innappropriate? I am discussing the lack of balance in an article. Is this forbidden? JoseLuisMoralesMarcos (talk) 21:45, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi JoseLuisMoralesMarcos, one of Wikipedia's policies is that Wikipedia is not a forum. According to the talk page guidelines, article talk pages are intended for discussing improvements to the article, and when a discussion veers into political arguments or personal attacks that are unlikely to improve the article, the discussion can be closed and archived to allow editors to focus on more constructive discussions.

Your first comment, Special:Diff/1081300512, which proposed removing "western" sources from the article, is a suggestion that is not compatible with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, and I recommend thoroughly reviewing all three of Wikipedia's core content policies before making further edits in contentious topic areas. The reliable sources guideline generally enables editors to use sources with "a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy", regardless of the country they are based in, while questionable sources with "a poor reputation for checking the facts or with no editorial oversight" are generally excluded from articles.

In talk page discussions, it is recommended to focus on content, and not on other editors. Accusing someone of having "extreme views" because they display a Ukrainian flag on their user page, as you did in Special:Diff/1081319036, is considered a personal attack, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. The discussion as a whole, now archived at Talk:Bucha massacre/Archive 1 § Dealing with propaganda war, had an inflammatory tone and did not contain any usable suggestions to improve the Bucha massacre article, which is why it is now closed and archived. — Newslinger talk 22:20, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

All I said was that 1) We should expand the scope of reliable sources to non-western sources due to the highly partisan editorial lines taken in NATO countries which is slowly sliding into McCarthyism (reliability of such sources should perhaps be reevaluated) and 2) The views on who was responsible of all sides to the conflict should be clearly portrayed and sourced in a neutral manner rather than censored and that 3) WP:FRINGE does not apply since there is limited neutral information on the event, or any event related to the Ukraine conflict. I believe such policies are being misused by partisan editors who are WP:GAMING the system. Is expressing this opinion on the talk page somehow forbidden? We cannot use legalese to quash debate.JoseLuisMoralesMarcos (talk) 22:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

In Special:Diff/1081300512, you claimed without evidence that there is "an unprecedented level of hysterical propaganda in the western world". This type of political comment is not helpful for improving articles. You also claimed without evidence that "NATO sources, with perhaps a few exceptions are clearly not reliable anymore". Historically, the consensus of the Wikipedia community is against blanket exclusions of sources from large geographic areas. On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with using reliable sources from other geographic areas. If you find relevant content in reliable "South Asia, Middle Eastern maybe even Latin American sources", feel free to suggest these sources on the talk page so that they can be incorporated into the article.

The talk page guidelines enable editors to remove and archive "Off-topic posts" and "personal attacks". It is inadvisable to describe other editors as "partisan", since it goes against the principle of focusing on content, and not on other editors. Casting aspersions is a form of personal attack, so please do not accuse others of gaming the system without evidence. Finally, discussions on editor conduct generally do not belong on article talk pages; the appropriate venues for resolving user conduct disputes are listed at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution § Resolving user conduct disputes (WP:RUCD). — Newslinger talk 22:55, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

• Now reported at ANI, if you want to add your two cents there. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you

For straightening that out with Delliot5. I was trying to explain to him that BritishToff had been indeffed but by the time I came back to the section it didn’t seem like further comment from me would be welcome. I appreciate the follow up because editor retention is ... shall we say my favorite wikirant? I might even send you a kitten the next time i’m on a device that supports that. On a related note, check out what happens to edit requests on that page. I have only seen one or two get listened to. Thanks again, that one bugged me. Elinruby (talk) 07:45, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

No problem, it's always sad to see an editor leave Wikipedia over a misunderstanding, and I do hope Delliott5 changes their mind about leaving. Currently, the only active edit request I see on that page is Talk:Azov Battalion § Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2022, a request that I believe would be better handled through the RfC that is being drafted. — Newslinger talk 07:57, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

A glass of Kvass for you!

	An ice-cold glass of Slavic Class
	In thanks, to cool you down for your efforts in the heated East Slavic topic area! EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 09:42, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, EnlightenmentNow1792! Reasonable discussion is the best way to resolve many disputes. — Newslinger talk 09:52, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. But in particularly controversial topic areas (which I'd be bold enough to venture would include practically any article on a contemporary issue which includes the term *Nazi* in its first sentence) the search for a utopian "consensus" is impossible, if there are enough special interest editors, with enough determination, to ignore RS and WP:Policy. All you get is filibustering and obfuscation from the side aiming at disinformation, and the best possible outcome you can hope for from an RfC is essentially the equivalent of a straw poll that happily goes the right way (a.k.a. "mob rule"). EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 09:58, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not perfect, of course, but articles tend to improve over time as higher-quality sources, such as reliable academic and book sources, emerge. For topics that have received a lot of media attention, you may want to look out for academic sources that would eventually supersede the news coverage that the articles are initially based on. — Newslinger talk 10:11, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

I have. They are ignored by the usual suspects, and deleted several times by the same, when I tried to add them to the article. A. Umland, O. Rybiy, K. Fedorenko, A. Shekhovtsov are the acknowledged experts on this precise field of study. Every time I try to add these sources to the article, they're deleted, I've added most of them to the talk page - ignored, in favor of blogs and random magazines/newspapers, often many years out of date. - EnlightenmentNow1792 (talk) 10:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

For the Azov Battalion article specifically, feel free to mention those academic sources when the RfC that is being drafted on the talk page eventually starts. After the RfC becomes active, you can also advertise it on the neutral point of view noticeboard and the talk pages of relevant WikiProjects to bring more uninvolved editors to the discussion. — Newslinger talk 11:48, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Sitel page recent edits

The Sitel page has a section called "News" with a sub-section called "Involvement in 2022 data breach at Okta". I disclosed a COI and asked the content be merged with "History" instead of in a dedicated section, per WP:CRIT. The responding editor said they don't know enough to have an opinion. I was hoping you might be knowledgeable enough on the rules/norms to have an opinion on whether the section should be consolidated and approve or deny my request. Thank you in advance for your assistance if you decide to chime in. Best regards. DanSlavov (talk) 11:29, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi DanSlavov, WP:CRITS discourages section headings such as "Criticism" and "Controversies", but does not make a recommendation for or against the section headings I currently see in the Sitel article. However, the "News" heading as it is used in the article is in violation of the WP:NOTNEWS policy, and I've merged that section with the "Corporate history" section into a new "History" section in Special:Diff/1081591915. If there are any further changes you would like to make to the article, I recommend submitting an edit request on Talk:Sitel using the {{Request edit}} template. Another editor will evaluate your request and get back to you. — Newslinger talk 11:42, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Newslinger. Did you feel the security breach should have its own sub-section like that rather than being a paragraph in recent history? I defer to your judgment and expertise. Just wanted to make sure that was correct. DanSlavov (talk) 13:30, 8 April 2022 (UTC)