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Bipolar disorder

Bipolar disorder is NOT a PERSONALITY disorder. They might exist together, but are seperate Axis I, and Axis II disorders.

Transgenderism and the ICD

In case my edit gets reverted, the mention of transgenderism is inappropriate in this article. Personality disorders are F60 and F61. Transgenderism is in a much broader class of personality *and behavioral* disorder, which also includes drug addictions and "egodystonic sexual orientation" (the medical code you would bill for conversion therapy).

The way the difference between ICD-10 and DSM-V was discussed also created the false appearance of current controversy where none exists. The ICD-10 classification is considerably older than the DSM-V, and in the ICD-11 transgenderism will cease to be a psychiatric diagnosis at all and be moved to a category of diseases related to sexual health. Jan sewi (talk) 13:11, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relationship of socioeconomic status with personality disorders.

I am thinking about adding information about the effects of socioeconomic (SES) associated risks on PD symptom levels. This study ^[1] looks at independent SES effects on personality disorders over an individuals entire age span. They identify key elements that can cause developmental failures and ultimately lead to the development of personality disorders. Agarwal.son (talk) 15:49, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Cohen, Patricia; Chen, Henian; Gordon, Kathy; Johnson, Jeffrey; Brook, Judith; Kasen, Stephanie (21 April 2008). "Socioeconomic background and the developmental course of schizotypal and borderline personality disorder symptoms". Development and Psychopathology. 20 (02). doi:10.1017/S095457940800031X.

intro too abstract

I'm sorry but the introduction describes an amorphous psychological blob. I minored in psychology, and I can't understand it. From the first sentence:

″ enduring maladaptive patterns of behavior, cognition, and inner experience, exhibited across many contexts and deviating from those accepted by the individual's culture.″

That describes depression, bipolar, sociopathy, schizophrenia, and pretty much every other mental illness. The rest of the intro seems to go into detail, but there's a lot of repetition of the same abstract phrases; doesn't help. EG:

enduring behavioral and mental traits
enduring collection of behavioral patterns

deviating from those accepted by the individual's culture
deviate from social norms and expectations

Teach with examples. With bullet points, describe a handful of PD disorders (most common) and also describe similar but non-PD disorders, and why they're not classified as PD. Describe them in enough detail so that one could say "Oh yeah, I know a guy like that". Don't say "patient was deviating from social norms"; be more specific like "patient might pull his pants down in public" or something concrete like that. OsamaBinLogin (talk) 10:39, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Cohen, Patricia; Chen, Henian; Gordon, Kathy; Johnson, Jeffrey; Brook, Judith; Kasen, Stephanie (21 April 2008). "Socioeconomic background and the developmental course of schizotypal and borderline personality disorder symptoms". Development and Psychopathology. 20 (02). doi:10.1017/S095457940800031X.

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+== intro too abstract  ==
+I'm sorry but the introduction describes an amorphous psychological blob.  I minored in psychology, and I can't understand it.  From the first sentence:
+″ enduring maladaptive patterns of behavior, cognition, and inner experience, exhibited across many contexts and deviating from those accepted by the individual's culture.″
+That describes depression, bipolar, sociopathy, schizophrenia, and pretty much every other mental illness.  The rest of the intro seems to go into detail, but there's a lot of repetition of the same abstract phrases; doesn't help.  EG:
+* enduring behavioral and mental traits
+* enduring collection of behavioral patterns
+* deviating from those accepted by the individual's culture
+* deviate from social norms and expectations
+Teach with examples.  With bullet points, describe a handful of PD disorders (most common) and also describe similar but non-PD disorders, and why they're not classified as PD.  Describe them in enough detail so that one could say "Oh yeah, I know a guy like that".    Don't say "patient was deviating from social norms"; be more specific like "patient might pull his pants down in public" or something concrete like that.  [[User:OsamaBinLogin|OsamaBinLogin]] ([[User talk:OsamaBinLogin|talk]]) 10:39, 26 April 2022 (UTC)