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Does anyone want to create an article about "parsimonious with the truth"?

I was looking for a Wikipedia reference to the expression "parsimonious with the truth". I thought it was a well known and old expression often attributed to Mark Twain. Though the expression appears in many books, now I think it is probably just a rather obscure euphemism (and almost surely not from Mark Twain). Might be worth a Wikipedia reference or article because of the books? Or maybe not? Perhaps the easiest test of relevance is whether you know what it means? (And if so, then how did you figure it out?)

The following link is the 8th page of results from Google Search. That's the last page with the exact quote, so there are at least seven pages of books that use it. (I noticed that some of them were dictionaries, so I'm not sure if those books should count as significant uses of the expression.)

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22parsimonious+with+the+truth%22&client=firefox-b-d&tbm=bks&sxsrf=APq-WBvfZUEtP7SUE6gzi_cmBl4AU8BOXQ:1650735167842&ei=PzhkYrmSM42JmAX89qF4&start=70&sa=N&ved=2ahUKEwj5rbDa26r3AhWNBKYKHXx7CA84UBDy0wN6BAgBEEs&biw=1920&bih=927&dpr=1

By the way, I explored creating a new article for the topic. Turned out to be way too much bother for such a trivial topic. Mostly left me wondering what sort of person has that much motivation to do such a thing. Along the way I remember seeing something about being friendly to newcomers. It didn't feel that way. But my sentiments towards Wikipedia have gotten much darker over the years. (So that would lead to a recursive joke from the articles titled "The road to hell is paved..."?) Shanen (talk) 17:43, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

This may be something more up Wiktionary's alley. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 18:24, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Shanen, you gave up quickly. I quote it: "So this is really just a stub suggestion for an article if someone thinks it is justified." Stubs are generally worthless; when you hope that somebody else will create a substantive article about whatever, try WP:Requested articles. Meanwhile, the article Economical with the truth may interest you. -- Hoary (talk) 22:56, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

... creating a new article ... [seems] to be way too much bother..

Heh, heh! That's what I think every time I see a reply to some newbie asking about how to create a new article. Fabrickator (talk) 11:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

I have redirected parsimonious with the truth to the article on the more common wording, and added a source using it. PamD 09:49, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Marriage Abnormalities

I want to write an articles on the meaning of Marriage, its advantage, disadvantage, and Marriage abnormalities as a guide for single and married people to follow. And i will be basing my references on our normal day to day life and also on biblical terms Giftyemmy (talk) 18:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

The answer is no. Wikipedia articles are not for op-eds or proselytising. (And keep your God, He wants me dead.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 18:57, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are informative, but not guides or how-to. Your thoughts on the topic would be original research = forbidden. David notMD (talk) 18:59, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

This article is to be set as a guide for people (not everybody) Giftyemmy (talk) 19:01, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles are not guides. Marriage is an existing, lenghty (!) article, with links to related articles. Consider improving that article. David notMD (talk) 19:03, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

That doesn't matter. We don't allow articles which are clearly opinion or are trying to preach to the reader, and your "meaning of marriage" is little more than your personal opinion of it coloured from a Christian perspective. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 19:04, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Given that you started your account today, you cannot edit Marriage until your account is four days old and you have made ten edits, as it is semi-protected (the 'lock' symbol to upper right). David notMD (talk) 19:07, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

And not necessarily even a perspective common to all Christians. The phrase "marriage abnormalities" is ringing all sorts of warning bells for me. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 19:42, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

See WP:YFA if you decide to create an article about another topic. New editors are strongly advised to gain experience editing existing articles before attempting to create an article. David notMD (talk) 19:10, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

There is a clarification necessary here. It is perfectly acceptable to write about marriage, or anything else that falls in an ethical sphere, from a Christian perspective. But it is also correct to write about it from a Muslim perspective, a Jewish perspective, a Sikh perspective, an Atheist's perspective or an Agnostic's; in fact it's essential that in a subject on which religion has an unavoidable opinion, we reflect all religious views neutrally and without bias, and without any personal statement for or against any of those views; Wikipedia does not reject God; Wikipedia rejects Original Research and Unsourced Original Opinion. Wikipedia has no particular opinion on God (or anything); it is here to summarise others' opinions.

In formulating our article, we must stick to reliable secondary sources. Whether you hate Christianity, or adhere to it, you can only write about it in the voice of someone else, someone widely believed to have an opinion worth listening to. Incidentally, we already have an article Christian_views_on_marriage which is a good place for those interested in how Christian beliefs and ethics affect attitudes to marriage. Elemimele (talk) 16:58, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

While the answers to the original question are broadly correct, their contexts seem to be colored by some prejudices--and in at least one case, a chip on a shoulder. The OP did not mention a Christian perspective or Christianity. Wikipedia is not the forum for what s/he proposed; that's all that's needed. The OP, apparently being new here, might not realize that--as many newbies are unclear on just what Wikipedia is. Uporządnicki (talk) 12:02, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

The original post ends with and also on biblical terms, which suggests a Christian, Jewish or Samaritanist perspective. By number of believers, Christian seems more likely. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 15:02, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Can the dates on maintenance templates and url access dates be updated?

Is it permitted to uptade dates on maintenance templates? For example, if an article with no sources has a {{Unreferenced}} template on it dated June 2019, could the date be changed to the current month if the article still has no sources. Also, I have the same question about url access dates. Can they be dated to the current date if the url is still live? Cyrobyte (talk) 22:56, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

To your first question, Cyrobyte: this would be pointless. No, it would be worse than pointless: it would deceptively imply that the problem was only recently diagnosed. To your second question: if your examination of the linked page shows that it still states what it is described as stating, then yes. -- Hoary (talk) 23:00, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Interesting! I recently asked about updating the access-date (once here, once on a user or article talk page), both times, I got the answer I felt was wrong, which gives me a sense that my opinion might be relevant! Here are my points:

Standard citation styles call for specifying an access date, so the rules called for by the various citation styles ought to carry some weight.

It would an understatement to describe it as "fairly annoying" if editors actually updated the access-date whenever they checked a cited source.

My view is that the access date ought to be updated whenever the "effective url" is modified, e.g.url or archive-url is modified, depending on the setting of url-status, or if url-status is modified to affect which url is used as the item link.

Abiding by this behavior can be very helpful if someone is trying to find the edit which modified the url, which can be quite useful for somebody looking to determine what the link used to be, in order to repair a broken link.

Fabrickator (talk) 12:22, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Wrong information on my Bio

Hello, There is a Bio about me on Wikipedia that is wrong. I tried correcting the information by editing it but @TornadoLGS‬ refuted the edits due to conflict of interest. How can I find someone who can edit my Bio according to the correct information on www.timaderyan.com ? If the information cannot be edited, how can I remove the page off Wikipedia? Gipsy2022 (talk) 19:14, 24 April 2022 (UTC) Here is the page with the wrong information: [[1]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gipsy2022 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@Gipsy2022: Place a note on the article's talk page with the changes you want made, along with a citation to a reliable source. Then add {{Edit request}} and another editor will take a look at it. There is a backlog for requests like this, so you'll need to be patient. RudolfRed (talk) 19:18, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much ! Gipsy2022 (talk) 08:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Gipsy2022: Hello! I don't think you quite understand the purpose of Wikipedia. As long as information is supported by reliable and independent sources, it can and will stay. You do not own the article about you, nor can you exclusively control it. If you have actual changes to make that are supported by independent sources (not your own website), then you can make an edit request on the article's talk page. Happy editing! Bsoyka (talk) 19:19, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Except from some very simple information, your website is not a valid reference. You removed referenced content and added content without references. Per above, you are limited to making very specific edit requests on the Talk page, so that another editor can consider accepting or declining. David notMD (talk) 22:36, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@Bsoyka: I don't feel like the OP's question is about understanding the purpose of Wikipedia. And anyway, you make it sound like the "purpose" of Wikipedia necessarily makes it all-powerful and all-knowing--infallible and beyond correction or criticism. Someone comes to Wikipedia, finds an article about himself or herself, almost certainly didn't authorize it, finds things in it that s/he feels are just plain wrong. One doesn't think then about the "purpose" of Wikipedia; one thinks, what can s/he do about this. Well, while I don't know the details, I understand that there are things one can do. First, as a matter of policy, Wikipedia does try to respect privacy. Second, I understand there are provisions for people written about in Wikipedia to raise objections. And finally, (I don't know the person who raised all this, so I have no idea of his/her notability), I recently read that for a person of marginal or questionable notability, Wikipedia will consider removing an article, if that person doesn't want it. Uporządnicki (talk) 12:37, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing that up AzseicsoK. I think a lot of times we forget that aspect of Wikipedia. We are an online encyclopedia and we will come into contact with the subjects of some of our articles. It doesn't change the fact that Wikipedia can not use the subjects personal website as a source for potentially controversial information. What is commonly misunderstood though is that we can use primary sources for biographical information that wouldn't be controversial. However, I think that we can do more to assist this person than shrugging off their concerns with a seemingly non-empathetic answer. Injecting just a little empathy can go a long way. Gipsy2022, can you go to the article talk page here and tell us what you think should be removed and why? Also include any information you think should be added. I know this is going to sound weird but please try to understand. We need you to include sources that are not you or have any affiliation with you for any information you think needs to be added. --ARoseWolf 13:28, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Alignment of Userboxes

Hello! I recently added a few userboxes to my userpage, however i need help formatting them, i would want them on top of one another instead of abreast/side-to-side like they are now, i have tried adding paragraphs between them and even if it looks it in the visual editor it for some reason doesn't work when i publish, is there actually a way of formatting them like this? also is it ok to have subpages of my main userpage?

Sincerely OGWFP (talk) 20:14, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello OGWFP and welcome to the Teahouse.

There are a lot of tools you can use with userboxes, but what often works best is to look at the source code for a page that has the sort of layout you want and steal it. For instance, if you look at the source of WP:Userbox you can see how the stack of userboxes is made with a wikitable styled with style="float:right. The default coding for these boxes is designed to make a page-width block of them. Wrestling them into a different style just takes a little extra effort. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:08, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

hi OGWFP! you could also align your userboxes using {{Userboxtop}} and {{Userboxbottom}}. for larger userbox collections, you can use a table to display them. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 23:40, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, i actually never thought of using a table to align them or copying others source code.

Sincerely OGWFP (talk) 15:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Commerce section

I want to add a "commerce" section to my hometown page, however, I don't really see a precedence for it on any other city pages. I also don't want it to get flagged for advertising or something similar. My intent is to add names of businesses or services available in the town. Especially those that relate to the history of the town. For example, lumber is a main industry and there is one lumber mill left and it supports much of the town population. Additionally, items like gas station information would be helpful for travelers. Finally there is a landmark or point of interest similar in notoriety to the Mothman museum that would be an ideal addition to the page. Can someone provide some direction on if and what I can add in this category? Or what I should name the section? Thank you! VKDuran (talk) 20:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

VKDuran Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Articles about towns/cities are not intended as travel guides or business directories. If you were going to list businesses in a town's article, it should only be those that merit articles themselves, and most do not. Wikipedia articles exist to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage say about a topic. 331dot (talk) 20:45, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello VKDuran, thank you for wanting to improve Wikipedia. Even though you probably know a great deal about your hometown you can only add information that can be cited with a reliable reference, for people reading your additions won't know if what you have been told is correct, unless there's a way to verify it. You may find it helpful to read: Your first article since it has good information that can be used when adding to an article, especially the section on references.

Has there been local history books published that tell about your hometown, or newspaper articles about it's founding or early days? If you can find published information about your town's lumber industry, you can add a "Lumber industry" or "Early industry" section, making sure to add references for what you write about. A couple of sentences (with a properly formatted citation / reference) will be a useful addition. But unless there was a particular company that was known outside of your local area, it wouldn't be notable enough to have a great deal of information written about it. Best wishes on your Wikipedia adventures. Karenthewriter (talk) 21:28, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@VKDuran, information like "gas station information" is impossible to keep current over the years, especially if you imagine info like that in thousands of articles, with WP editors sometimes retiring. A web search engine is a much better resource for travelers. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 23:13, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

VKDuran See Maynard, Massachusetts for an example of how a one-industry town (wool) has that information incorporated into a History section, and has a Sites of interest section. Many town articles also have a Notable people section. See Acton, Massachusetts as example. David notMD (talk) 06:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

my wiki article got deleted after years of being on wiki. im looking for help to get it back up.

search for laptopmd and u see it. Arthur Zilberman (talk) 23:15, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: LaptopMD

@Arthurlmd: Welcome to the Teahouse! The article was removed after a deletion discussion because it was considered too promotional and did not appear to be notable at the time.

However, if you'd like to create it from scratch and start again, have a look at H:YFA, but be absolutely sure to follow the policies surrounding paid contributions as you are affiliated with the company. Failure to do so violates the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use, so this is a big thing to keep in mind.

Let us know if you have any further questions. Happy editing! Bsoyka (talk) 23:20, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

can i get help? im ok to compensate if reasonable .. Arthur Zilberman (talk) 23:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Arthurlmd. I strongly recommend against using a paid Wikipedia editing service. Most of these outfits are scams and they simply cannot assure that the article will not be deleted again. Please read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies carefully, because any attempt to recreate this article must fully comply with that guideline. Also read Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. As the founder of the company, you must make that disclosure. This is mandatory and non-negotiable. Cullen328 (talk) 00:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

thank you , so what do i do ? we are real company and im a real person. 3 locations and 0o employees, we are mentioned on all New York city tv stations (NOT PAID). cnn, wall street journal, MSN, NBC, Inc, etc..etc.. nothing is paid for, they all come to us because of what we do . google my name, google our company name.. its all there . Arthur Zilberman (talk) 21:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Arthurlmd: The issue is that you have to find reliable sources that discuss the company with significant coverage, and are independent from the company. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:20, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@Arthurlmd, you have a confusing typo there -- "0o employees". 73.127.147.187 (talk) 04:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Url with spaces

I have an url at Foreign relations of the Dominican Republic (ref 3) which has spaces in it and therefore messes up the reference. Now the link works which I guess is the most important part but it just looks amateurish. I tried changing the encoding per Template:Cite web but couldn't make it work so if any of you could take a look, I would appreciate it. Thanks. --Semsûrî (talk) 08:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello Semsûrî! You are correct in that it is the spaces within the original URL causing the error message to display after that reference. To fix it just place %20 where the spaces occur like http://enlacecongreso.mirex.gob.do/ecc/Lists/Establecimiento%20de%20Relaciones%20Diplomticas/AllItems.aspx. You'll note that the second working archived URL you used is in that format & thus is working fine. Those %20 normally get inserted when you copy a URL with spaces in, perhaps got left out when copy/pasting somehow. I do notice that some other references on that page are throwing error messages when the page is edited but those are unrelated to that one. Hope this is of help! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 08:53, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Semsûrî Welcome to Teahouse! If you look at the archived url, you'll notice that the spaces were replaced with %20 which is an example of Percent-encoding. I went ahead and fixed the dead url. I hope I understood your question correctly. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 08:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@LooksGreatInATurtleNeck:@Shushugah: Thank you to both of you for replying. Next time hopefully I'll be able to do it myself. Cheers! --Semsûrî (talk) 15:28, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed user

I have now 438 edits and it's past 30 days since my account was created. So, how many more edits do I need to become an extended-confirmed user? I am Rjsb0192 (talk) 09:38, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

hi I am Rjsb0192 and welcome to the teahouse! extended-confirmed requires 500 edits and 30 days, so only 62 more. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 09:50, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

A short utterance

BANEI123456 49.149.74.122 (talk) 10:08, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

If you have a question, then what is this question? -- Hoary (talk) 12:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

You think darkness is your ally, Hoary? You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding! Panini! • 🥪 13:26, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Filmography: English or German Titles

Hello, I have a question about the film titles in the filmography of Draft:Philipp Hochmair. Most of the titles are in the original German. Is it better to translate the titles?

If there is no link, I also write the German titles?

Thanks for the support. Emmy1707 (talk) 10:14, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

This is what you need Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(films)#Foreign-language_films - X201 (talk) 10:22, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Article for review to resubmit: opinion of editors

I want to get my article approved on Wikipedia. I have edited it again after first review. I need help to ascertain if the sources/ references are credible enough and whether this article will pass the review. The link to article is here. Draft:Emmanuel Sikora Ifra86 (talk) 11:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Ifra86, which three of the sources cited, in your opinion, do most to establish that Sikora is notable?   Maproom (talk) 12:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Ifra86, I don't understand the second sentence, He is widely recognized as the classical opera composer as resident of Cortland, New York. -- Hoary (talk) 12:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Ifra86, references need to consistently appear after punctuation. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 04:34, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I fix it. Should I publish it now? Whats the opinion of editors? Please help me get through this. Ifra86 (talk) 06:53, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Content Model Modification

Hello, I would like to ask for help regarding the method to change my user stylesheet's content type from “CSS” to “Sanitized CSS”. I understand this request maybe should be posted to WP:ANI, but the edit notice said only chronic, urgent, and intractable problems are welcome there, so this is the place I guess? Any reply and comment are welcome, thank you!－Taipei Native^Comment 12:23, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@台北人: Such a request should definitely not be posted at WP:ANI, as it has nothing to do with administrators.

WP:VPT is the better forum on en-Wikipedia (assuming nobody answers on the Teahouse, which seems likely). If it is related to the inner workings of mw:css-sanitizer, maybe somewhere on the MediaWiki pages, but I do not know where. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 14:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Tigraan:Thank you for your reply! The reason I wanted to seek administrators' assistance was because as far as I knew, only administrators or interface administrators can modify the content model of the page according to WP:INTADMIN. And yes, it seems like WP:VPT is a more suitable place to post a request like this. Thank you for your advice on what to and not to do at WP:ANI, I will keep that in mind.－Taipei Native^Comment 00:38, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@台北人: To expand on Tigraan's answer, ANI is for behavioural/conduct issues of other (English) Wikipedia users that require administrator intervention. It is one of the last stops to escalating inter-user conflict, and it's a place where nearly all parties involved don't come out feeling better off than before. The technical village pump is where technical questions are asked, and regulars there are better equipped to help you. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:03, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Tenryuu:Thank you for your detailed explaination on WP:ANI! I will head to WP:VPT for help, thank you for your advice!－Taipei Native^Comment 01:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

New Article in Limbo after I Fixed Minor Issue

Hello, I submitted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jenny_Bilfield many months ago. It got reviewed, and one very minor issue was flagged. I fixed that issue. But now THAT is a few months ago. Can someone give it a fresh look and publish? All the best-- Erlovett (talk) 13:28, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Erlovett: Your draft is waiting for review, so just be patient. Drafts aren't reviewed in any specific order. --The Tips of Apmh 14:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

• I suspect Nyanardsan's decline was not motivated exclusively by the SoundCloud source, Erlovett, so "one very minor issue was flagged" is not a productive way to look at it.

However, I do think the decline was incorrectly tagged "no reliable source" when in fact it should be "notability". I have little doubt that this person exists, and that she’s the head of WPA, etc. based on the article sources. But has this person received sufficient attention from external reliable sources to justify a Wikipedia article? None of the few random sources I looked at show that - some are interviews (not independent), others only have a short quote of JB (example - not significant coverage).

The typical advice in such a case is to suggest your three best sources (read that link to know why). Make sure to read and understand WP:GNG first to select those sources. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 14:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Erlovett I believe you may be a bit confused as to how to address issues referred to when a draft article has been declined. In this post you state "one very minor issue was flagged," but the reason for your article not being accepted is "submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources" and "submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia." There was also one individualized comment made: "Soundcloud is not an acceptable source," and the draft's history shows the only changes made since the February draft decline is removing the Soundcloud reference. While waiting for your next article review you may want to work on making sure there are no references in which Jenny Bilfield is just mentioned amongst many other individuals, and not the main focus of the referenced source, as well as making sure you keep a neutral tone when writing about Bilfield. Best wishes on improving the draft article. Karenthewriter (talk) 15:09, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

page spilt

Can someone give their opinion on Talk:List of highest-grossing non-English films#Box office admissions P+T 92.236.253.249 (talk) 13:40, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Welcome to Teahouse! We do not give advice on content here, however if you want a third opinion I'd recommend asking in the relevant WP:WikiProject Film and or at WP:Third opinion. Hope that helps! Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 17:50, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Overtime (Sports Network)

Hello - The draft for Overtime (Sports Network) was denied and said it was written as an advertisement. Everything written in the article was sourced. There was zero opinion added to it. I'm not sure how I would be able to make the draft any better. There are dozens of articles about Overtime in every major publication (NY Times, WSJ, USA Today, Time, ESPN, etc.) Please help!

Thanks Bankrupt305 (talk) 13:50, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

• Courtesy link: Draft:Overtime (sports network). Deor (talk) 14:15, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Hello, Bankrupt305. Your draft has a distinctly promotional tone and must be completely re-written to comply with the Neutral point of view, which is a core content policy. Cullen328 (talk) 16:57, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Per Cullen, having sources doesn't mean that the tone of the writing is not inappropriate. The tone reads like a press release and not like an encyclopedia article. --Jayron32 18:06, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Can you please offer an example of something written in the article and how could be rewritten more appropriately. There is nothing in there that I see that shows an opinion, or embellishes anything. It simply is written as a fact in a neutral point of view. Bankrupt305 (talk) 16:48, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

UK By-Elections link to last

I am unsure as to if this is the correct place to ask this question or if it has been answered already, but it seems better than anywhere else.

I think that UK parliamentary by-elections, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Birmingham_Erdington_by-election should have as the link to "last" not as the link to the last general election but instead to the last election for that constituency, for the previous example, that would be: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham_Erdington_(UK_Parliament_constituency)#Elections_in_the_2010s. Has this already been answered and if not, do people agree or disagree? (Assuming this is the correct place to ask this) 18egr (talk) 17:03, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@18egr welcome to Teahouse! This is a place to ask for advice on how to edit, not specific content advice. I would raise your question on the talk page of that specific article which you can find at Talk:2022 Birmingham Erdington by-election or at the dedicated WP:WikiProject Elections. I hope that helps. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 17:48, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Question about TIES

Hello Teahouse hosts. I am an experienced editor, but I have a quick question regarding how the WP:TIES policy works for immigrants. Say someone was born and raised in the United Kingdom, but later moved to the United States where they became notable for their work. Should it use dmy dates and British English (based on birthplace) or mdy dates and American English (because that is where they became notable)? Thanks for your time, Link20XX (talk) 17:37, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Link20XX: Welcome to the Teahouse. You might be able to get more relevant input if you ask over at WT:MOS. In my opinion, I think American style would be better as they're notable there more than they are in the states. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:45, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Link20XX Welcome to Teahouse! In general, I would emphasize wherever they are notable, but all that said, if there's no compelling argument for a specific variation then the article creator decides and MOS:RETAIN applies. In short, don't worry too much about it would my simpler answer. Happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 17:46, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies. They are very helpful. Link20XX (talk) 18:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

How to Change My Username & How long to Post

The username I have is Tzedekassociation and I want to change it to: Tzedek Association with a space. How can I do this. I also want to add another page called Moshe Margaretten. Do I need to create a new account to do this or can I use my existing account to create an additional page?

Once I have created the page - how long will it take to be live? Tzedekassociation (talk) 18:02, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Tzedekassociation: Welcome to the Teahouse. Since this is your only edit, it's probably fastest to abandon this account and create a new one called Tzedek Association, so long as either of these usernames don't violate the username policy, particularly organisation names as they're considered promotional. If they do, definitely change your username to something else.

An account can create multiple pages, though understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and hosts articles, not mere pages. Creating one from scratch is one of the hardest things to do, and I would suggest editing other existing articles to get an understanding of how that works. If you still want to create an article despite that, I strongly recommend you read Your first article before getting started. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:23, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure "Tzedek Association" would be a violation of the username policy as it would imply the account is used by more than one person. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, at first glance that seems to be the case, and with a quick Google search there is an actual organisation that goes by that name. That being said, I've known some people that refer to themselves as a group, so this is a "just-in-case". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:44, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

See [2]. Rabbi Moshe Margaretten is president of the Tzedek Association. Doug Weller talk 19:04, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

I fear Doug and Blaze are on to something. At the very least both usernames run afoul of username policy. Welcome to the Teahouse, Tzedekassociation. Are you connected with either the association or Rabbi Margaretten in any way? --ARoseWolf 19:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Help editing Draft:Zayla Partners

Hello Wikipedia geniuses, I am looking for some help editing the a draft I have just created (that got immediately rejected) for Zayla Partners. I also want to ensure that I have taken all of the necessary steps with regards to compliance. I am very new to this and would greatly appreciate the help of an experienced editor! Dariaerzakova (talk) 18:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Dariaerzakova. You have properly disclosed that you are a paid editor. Thanks for that. Personally, I consider it highly unlikely that a company founded in 2022 would be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Your draft only has a single reference dated 2016, and that appears to be a directory listing for a company that the founder was previously associated with. That reference is of no value. Your draft is full of unreferenced content and that violates the core content policy Verifiability Please read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and Your first article for the required standards. Cullen328 (talk) 19:08, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Adding a Photo to a page and get going guidance

I recently created an account. I have plans on writing a page about Dr Ophelia Inez Weeks .... Daughter of 'Rocheforte Lafayette Weeks' see wiki page. Before I do I wanted to see if I could upload a simple picture of Rocheforte Lafayette Weeks to his page as its from our family Library; however, when I do try it says it cannot ....don't know why something about permissions... We have other photos of him for example when being commissioned by the President as Foreign Minister, or signing of the codification of Liberian laws, meeting of the cardinal etc. but if one was reject all will I expect.

Also just wanted to know,... can I as a brother of Dr. Ophelia Inez Weeks write a page about her. She too followed in my Father's steps as also a President of the University of Liberia, started a program at FIU on Quantitative Biology, first woman to graduate from Howard University Neuroanatomy department etc. ....I was thinking about writing the article in Word and then worrying about how to edit to Wikipedia standards.

Any ideas on the photo issue above and if I can write a page about my Sister as I will interview her soon as I asked her so I could gather some facts for the page

New to this , can you tell ?...very new and have a full time job so time is limited. Rweekacl (talk) 19:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Rweekacl: Welcome to the Teahouse. It depends on who owns the copyright, and if there are current licences that restrict its use (the image use policy has more to say on the matter). If you are Ophelia Weeks' brother, you are strongly discouraged from writing an article (not just a mere page) about her (as you would have a conflict of interest) in the main articlespace. That being said, creating a draft is one of the hardest things to do, and you're better served editing existing articles to get an idea of how Wikipedia articles work. If you are adamant on writing an article about Weeks, I suggest reading Your first article very thoroughly. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:23, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Rweekacl. You have a Conflict of interest regarding your sister, and should conduct yourself very carefully. Use the Articles for Creation process and disclose your conflict of interest. A photo from your family library is a problem, because in almost all cases, the photographer will be the copyright holder, and therefore the photographer (or their estate if the photographer has died) is the only person who can release the photo under a free license for uploading to Wikimedia Commons. However, because Rocheforte Lafayette Weeks is dead, there is the possibility of uploading a photo here on English Wikipedia under the provisions of Non-free images #10. Cullen328 (talk) 20:29, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Rweekacl Absolutely nothing you obtain via an interview would be useable on Wikipedia. In order for an article’s subject to be considered notable by the Wikipedia community, we require that it receive significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject this is what you base an article on. Theroadislong (talk) 21:31, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Is there an expiration on final vandalism warnings?

I recently reported a user (173.198.159.2) for vandalism on the "Administrator intervention against vandalism" page. According to this user's talk page, the user received a final warning on 21 October 2021 and then vandalized again today. Is there a time limit or an expiration date on final warnings? I tried to ask the admin, however a cleaner bot deleted my comment. Sorry, if I'm confused and thanks for any clarification you can offer so I know when to report in the future. Thanks! Wikipedialuva (talk) 19:56, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Wikipedialuva: Technically the warnings do expire. For me I usually say that if a warning is over a month old, then a fresh set of warnings is due. However if the user (or IP) has many warnings on their userpage, I might think a bit differently. 19:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC) ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification! Wikipedialuva (talk) 19:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Wikipedialuva: Some people might say warnings "expire" a bit sooner, others slightly later. Warnings don't usually expire as something that reflects on the user's behavior. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 20:03, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

The IP editor has been blocked for six months, so the issue is moot. Cullen328 (talk) 20:15, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Does verifiable material that is challenged still have to provide an inline citation?

For example, Lionel Messi has won 7 Ballon D'or titles. If someone decided to challenge that fact and put "Citation needed" at the end of the sentence, is it still necessary to put an inline citation to support the material despite already being an obvious fact? Fijipedia (talk) 23:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Fijipedia, and welcome to the Teahouse! As the verifiability policy states, "All material in Wikipedia mainspace... must be verifiable. All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the material." So yes, a citation should be included. In the example you gave, someone without much previous knowledge in the football/soccer world might not know Messi has won 7 Ballon D'ors, so it's good to make sure the claim is verifiable. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 23:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

I personally have never heard of Lionel Messi, nor in fact have I ever heard of the Ballon D'or title, and wouldn't even have known that this is a football-related topic without Perfect4th's comment. What is an obvious fact to one person may be completely unknown to another. It's important to remember that Wikipedia is read by a vast variety of people from different backgrounds with different experiences. See WP:CK for more about this. CodeTalker (talk) 01:12, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Fijipedia. I agree with CodeTalker. I live in California. I did recognize Lionel Messi's name but for half a second, thought he might be a mountaineer. Maybe that is because I used to be a mountaineer myself. As for the Ballon d'Or, that sounds like a trophy for piloting hot air balloons to me, but I have just learned now that it is a top award for European Association football players. We call that game soccer here and it is less popular than Gridiron football (a completely different game) or baseball or basketball. At the professional level, it is less popular than hockey. So, why would you expect readers in the U.S., which is the most populous English speaking country by far, to know about Messi and his prestigious European award? The core content policy Verifiability requires references for all content that has been challenged, and there are no exceptions for either famous European soccer players or famous American baseball players. Cullen328 (talk) 01:34, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Can I sort this table? revisiting standard newbie question #73482

Original question was not clear.

>"Is it ok if I sort the (source) content of this table in an article that I want to work upon?"

>I am confident that this is a well worn consideration but I have not yet learned the rules. I am not sure where to look for applicable policy/discussion/guidance.

>Yes, I have phrased this (over) generally because I also want to learn a little bit about the balance to expect between "for some articles you should do this" and "on wikipedia in general you should do this" and whatever other perspectives that have not yet occured to me.

I am looking for some general community standards/expectations responsive to my question "Do I?".

The following is a scenario that happens from time to time.

I want to contribute to an article.

That article contains a table.

Wikipedia displays that table in some (sorted) order.

The source of that list, within the article, is not sorted.

I want to sort it.

Do I?

Here is a made up example, in case the above is still not sufficient . . .

The table of professional baseball players who have won Nobel prizes can be displayed in name, birthdate, & award date order.

But the source text was added over the course of several edits by different people.

The sequence of edits added:

(edit 1) several entries for a particular baseball team . . .

(edit 12) the contributor's uncle (alphabetically by last name) who was from a different team . . .

(edit 31) (at the begining of the text) the entries for winners of chemistry prizes . . .

(edit 457) (at the bottom) the physics prize winners . . .

(edit 1395) (just after the original baseball team list) the most recent chemistry winner

And now the table _source_ is a mess

That makes it more difficult to avoid duplicate entries, to compare data between entries that are logically adjacent, and so on. Occasionally one even finds duplicate entries.

Now consider that the entries may contain inconsistent, duplicate, and repeated citations.

The previous is made much worse by multiply published references, by inconsistently versioned updated publications, referenced web sites that have gigantic URLs and/or that have multiple pages leading to the same content and/or that have entirely different pages which appear almost the same to everyone but the web server.

Accordingly: I want to sort the table.

Do I?

  2601:1C1:C100:9380:0:0:0:E052 (talk) 23:20, 25 April 2022 (UTC) A Nony Mouse

IP, people here tend to be busy. Please ask straightforward questions, concisely. -- Hoary (talk) 23:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder.

2601:1C1:C100:9380:0:0:0:E052 (talk) 00:23, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello again, IP editor, and welcome to the Teahouse! The question is still a bit confusing, as Hoary indicated, but I've tried to answer it. In the example you are describing, I think it would probably be okay to sort the table; cleaning up messy source code is generally a good thing to do. However, if you did, it would probably be wise to explain what you are doing in the edit summary/summaries; otherwise those who see the edits may not realize what you are doing. If you first created an account, you could also copy the source over to your sandbox and do your revising there, and then paste it into the source of the article in order to do it in one edit easier. Does this answer your question? Perfect4th (talk) 00:17, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Perfect4th. 2601:1C1:C100:9380:0:0:0:E052 (talk) 00:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I need help creating a page

I wan to create a page about my Grandfather, Warren Blaney, founder of Senior Olympics Sharynlb123 (talk) 23:38, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Sharynlb123, I advise you not to attempt this. But if you must, then please read and digest Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and Help:YFA. -- Hoary (talk) 23:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Senior Olympics is an existing article that mentions Blaney as a founder. Perhaps yor can improve the History section with referenced content. David notMD (talk) 03:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Wiener Festspiele

Hello, I need some help, my page has been draft and I have updated it now. What do you think? Thanks! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Wiener_Festspiele Operajoven (talk) 23:56, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Operajoven, (1) If that poster is indeed your "own work", as you claim, then you have a connection that you must divulge. (Or is it your own work?) (2) You write for example "2020: ^[1]Palais Eschenbach". A reference index normally comes immediately after the assertion that it references. This one comes immediately after a space. I don't understand its purpose. (3) The sole paragraph of text is unreferenced. -- Hoary (talk) 00:27, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your feedback! Do you know any company or service that could help me? Thanks a lot Operajoven (talk) 16:44, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

A company or service that would help you do what, Operajoven? -- Hoary (talk) 08:14, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

The entire first paragraph of the lead is duplicated in the second paragraph of the lead. Furthermore, the lead is supposed to summarize content in the body of the article. But in this draft, there is essentially no content in the body except a list of productions, and the lead is the entire article. CodeTalker (talk) 01:22, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@Operajoven, it's pretty clear that you did not create that poster (my apologies if you did), so, as Hoary mentioned, it is not your "own work". 73.127.147.187 (talk) 04:42, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Italicisation on title?

Hi, I'm going to create an article for some albums, how do I make sure that the title (like the one that's shown at the top of the page, e.g., for this page is Wikipedia:Teahouse) is italicised like this? Thanks X-750 _{I've made a mistake, haven't I?} 01:57, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, X750. There are several ways to accomplish this. For the purpose of articles about albums, the most straightforward way is to start out the article with Template:Infobox album, which automatically italicizes the title, and prompts you to provide standard content about the album, displayed in a standardized way. Cullen328 (talk) 02:18, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Chur Cullen328, that recognition feature is real neat. Thanks mate X-750 _{I've made a mistake, haven't I?} 02:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Is it possible (Or Ethical) to Hire a Professional Wikipedia Contributor

I would like to hire a professional Wikipedia Contributor to EDIT and ADD Content regarding my family history. As an Example there is an article about my family that is very incomplete. See: Earle family. I have done some editing of this article but it needs several additional articles for completeness.

There are 2 very large historical books on the Earle Family and their history.

1. The Earle family : Ralph Earle and his descendants - https://archive.org/details/earlefamilyralph00inearl which has a huge amount of history on the family that branched out of Massachusetts and Rhode Island.
2. History and genealogy of the Earles of Secaucus : with an account of other English and American branches https://archive.org/details/historygenealogy00earl which details the New Jersey branch of the family, as well as the Maryland, and Virginia branches.

While these books are genealogy books they have a wealth of history that can be gleaned from them. For instance, the article on Secaucus New Jersey Secaucus, New Jersey doesn't even mention that Edward Earle, on April 24, 1676, “bought the Island of Ci-ka-kus, in the Province of New Jersie, for 2000 Dutch Dollars. Or that he and his descendants owned the Island for many years.

I don't have the expertise needed to do the work myself and am looking for someone who would be interested in helping.

I have searched online and there are "contributors" who can be hired but I don't know if I should go that route.

GlennEarls (talk) 03:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Earle family has weaknesses, as six of the seven refs have to do with one 20th century person. David notMD (talk) 03:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes the article needs help. GlennEarls (talk) 04:10, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Don't. Most of the "expert Wikipedia editors" you see on headhunting/want-ad sites such as Fiverr are nothing of the sort, being either scammers, ingenues, or banned users, and they have the exact same conflicts of interest that you do, if not worse. We also take a dim view on paid editing en generale, even if it has been disclosed, since such editing is inherently conflicted. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 03:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

That is why I am asking. Is it ethical to hire someone and if so WHO can you trust? If not then how do I find a legitimate contributor that could help me. GlennEarls (talk) 04:09, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

hi GlennEarls! given that wikipedia is all volunteer work, I don't think hiring someone would really work, as given above paid editing is heavily discouraged. instead, you can submit a edit request to the article's Talk:Earle family, detailing what changes you would like to add (but of course, you would still need reliable, independent sources for these). 💜  melecie  talk - 04:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

GlennEarls, is it possible in theory to hire an ethical paid Wikipedia editor? Yes, just as it is possible in theory to find a zebra in a herd of wild horses that will allow you to tame it and ride it in your local Easter parade. The handful of ethical paid editors tend to work for very large companies for a lot of money. Instead of wasting your money on paid scammers, familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's logical and rational Policies and guidelines, and make or propose the edits yourself for free, disclosing any Conflicts of interest where appropriate. Cullen328 (talk) 04:46, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

page created can help artist "Ali Sabri Musician"

Hello, I'm new and I don't have much experience here.he has someone to publish a page for ali sabri musician 105.135.125.193 (talk) 03:08, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I need help creating a page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Sabri_(Musician)

News on google: https://g.co/kgs/XzmxGz https://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Ali_Sabri https://music.apple.com/us/artist/ali-sabri/1137693149

https://hitimes.in/meet-ali-sabri-moving-his-way-to-the-top-in-the-world-of-music/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.135.125.193 (talk) 03:19, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Please someone help me or guide me to make a page for ali sabri musician — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.135.125.193 (talk) 03:25, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

hi ip user and welcome to the teahouse! you don't need to post multiple times, a volunteer will be able to help you when we're free. anyways, please read Your first article to get started. to be able to make an article about a musician, you need to first prove that they can meet the notability guidelines for musicians using reliable sources that are independent of the subject: it's not just about someone being popular. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 04:23, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I was about to say something similar, but you said it before me. I'll also just add that it doesn't look like the musician Ali Sabri meets Wikipedias Noteability Guidlines for musicians. On Spotify he has just 9 monthly listeners, and from a quick Google Search, there doesn't appear to be any signifigant news coverage on them. Also non of the links the ip user gave that they say are news on Google about this person go to actual news articles. One of the links is for an article about Ali Sabri on WikiAlpha, a site that appears to be alternative to Wikipedia with a very leniant deletion policy in regards to notabibility. The other links are for the musicians page on Apple Music and Google Search results for the term "ali sabri musician". Greshthegreat (talk) 04:33, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Two New Mexico wildfires recently merged, but InciWeb doesn't list a complex fire. Should I make seperate articles for each fire and/or one about a complex fire?

The currently burning New Mexico wildfires, the Hermits Peak fire and Calf Canyon fire recently merged with one another. InciWeb however has them listed seperately and gives the same acreage for both, but does not have a complex fire listed. They are definitely worthy of at least one or more articles about them, as the two fires have collectively burned 56,478 acres as of April 25, according to InciWeb. Should I make two seperate articles for each wildfire and/or one about a complex fire? Greshthegreat (talk) 04:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

If you can find a source or sources that confirm that fires merged, my guess would be to make a single article about the complex fire. BlueNoise (talk) 05:21, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Greshthegreat. InciWeb is a governmental source and certainly a reliable primary source. But independent, secondary sources are preferred. Major newspaper articles that provides a detailed analysis of all of these related fires are the best while the fires are burning. If such sources describe these various merging fires as a "complex" fire, then that is a good approach to take. It is easier for busy editors to deal with a single article about a complex fire, than edit several articles about individual component fires. But only if reliable sources inceasingly describe the fire system that way. I hope that this helps, because I too live in wildfire country. Thanks for your contributions to our wildfire coverage. Cullen328 (talk) 05:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

How do I save a sandbox page?

I have written a draft for my article. But I need to go back and add more, edit etc. There is no save button on the sandbox page and so every time I lose everything. How can i save it? Robert Nurden (talk) 06:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Robert Nurden, you use the button which is misleadingly labelled "Publish". That button does not publish anything as an article, it does what most people would call "Save". Our legal team insist on it being labelled "Publish" because, when you use it, you are releasing most of your copyright in the material that you saved. (If this strikes you as daft, you are not alone.) Maproom (talk) 07:18, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Also, "published" stuff can be seen by anyone online, assuming they know where to look. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:42, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

If not clear, the editors are referring to your Sandbox. The general Wikipedia Sandbox is blanked several times a day. David notMD (talk) 10:34, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Depicting of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in pictures in the biography page of the Prophet (PBUH).

Kindly find the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and remove the pictures depicting the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) as it hurts the religious sentiments of Muslims across the globe. Thank you. 14.139.231.177 (talk) 09:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I assume you are referring to the article Muhammad rather than the main page you linked to, which does not appear to have any such images. This has been discussed many times before, and the pictures will not be removed as Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED. This is explained in detail in the big yellow box at the top of Talk:Muhammad and under FAQ Q3 you will find a method by which you can avoid seeing such images. - Arjayay (talk) 10:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

can anyone edit for me

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mohammed_Uzzal_Miah 103.253.46.30 (talk) 10:01, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi IP, the article you linked is likely not notable, if you think it is, please find 2 reliable, independent sources that provide significant coverage to the subject. Justiyaya 10:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Mohammed Uzzal Miah was just deleted, and its creator is blocked. The Tips of Apmh 16:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

pls fix this page issue

Comment: Needs a number of sources about his music, not just database entries. Also, please format your references (WP:REFB), this is almost unreadable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Mohammed_Uzzal_Miah 103.253.46.30 (talk) 10:07, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Exactly the same reply as above - the person does not appear to be notable enough to have a Wikipedia article. If you think they are, please find 2 reliable, independent sources that provide significant coverage to the subject, not just passing mentions, or trivia - Arjayay (talk) 10:13, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

How to publish draft?

I have created two Wikipedia draft pages, how to publish them to Wikipedia? MickeyMouse143 (talk) 10:24, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

hi MickeyMouse143! I've added the button (and the draft AfC template) to your drafts. I'd advise you to work on them first however. none of the articles have sufficient citations, which are required for an article to be published. you would also need them to meet the general notability guideline, which states [a] topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 10:43, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Both of your drafts now have a blue rectangle with the words "Submit the draft for review!" However, do not do this yet, as neither is in a form that can be approved. At Cirrhilabrus there is a list of species. The ones in blue are articles. You need to model your drafts on those - including references - before submitting. David notMD (talk) 10:39, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Unsourced material at BLP

Moved to User talk:Stick2700. Nothing more to add here ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 18:50, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

At Joe Kolodziej article, I see a lot of material that has no sources. I removed it per WP:BLP but was reverted by Stick2700 who commented: “You can not remove historically accurate information that has been on Wiki for years. […] Work history, is not subject to citations where none are available.” which leaves me confused. Could anyone help me with what is to be done with the article, with a reference to the related policy? —Svārtava (t/u) • 10:47, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

hi Svartava and welcome to the teahouse! I've added a comment onto your talk page. I believe this applies here: Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion. (from WP:BLP) and status quo doesn't really mean much when deciding to keep or remove it. 💜  melecie  talk - 11:08, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, Melecie, I saw your comment. Then, if sources aren't added to the page, the unsourced content could be removed, right? —Svārtava (t/u) • 11:11, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Actually, that whole article is a virtually unsourced mess and could probably be deleted altogether. (I have zero interest in the topic--even given the fact that the subject happens to be Polish--but it's an unvalidated puff piece.) Uporządnicki (talk) 11:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Google search only turns up the fraud case where they were accused of identity fraud and there was a subsequent story on Twitter about their release claiming they have an extensive criminal history. Not sure how extensive because I can't find anything else about the subject. Clearly not notable as the article only references two primary sources and the only independent sources I can find are about the fraud case. I think that's good enough rationale for at least AfD. --ARoseWolf 13:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Based on the statements on their user/talk pages and their contribution history, Stick2700 looks to be a single purpose account with a WP:COI. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 13:23, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Agree that there looks to be a COI/paid editing, not least because their userpage says I work with hockey player agents. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:34, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Nominated for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Joe Kolodziej for discussion. --ARoseWolf 14:24, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I am not paid to edit. The idea that you are all saying what is on Wikipedia is accurate is hilarious. Anyone can come here and make a page on anything they want and make up things about people that are either completely untrue or inaccurate. I am the subjects son. Everything is accurate on the page, and neither my father or I created it. I edit is for accuracy because people like to slander him. When I put citations in, you just delete what is cited? What Google does not turn up is that any case that was made nearly 20 years ago was overturned. Yet you want to cite something that is factually inaccurate? For years, this Wiki page was used to damage a reputation, and now all of a sudden when it is correct and accurate, some new users who were never even aware before think its ok to do what ever they want? And what happens when someone else creates a new page to damage this man? All the faceless nameless people here who can not be held responsible for their actions will do something? The article should be left as it was with the citations and more to be added. Cleaning up of grammar can be done as well. Stick2700 (talk) 14:48, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Stick2700, Welcome to the Teahouse. I'm sorry but you have a very skewed idea of what Wikipedia is and how material is added to the encyclopedia. I suggest you read our policies. No one here has mentioned accuracy of the article one time. We have stated that it is promotional in nature (words like "prolific" are red flags), that most of it is unsourced therefore not verifiable and because primary sources are used to source portions of the article it appears as if the subject is not notable per our standards. Wikipedia is not concerned with what you say is accurate about the subject, that's orginal research. Nither, you, your father or anyone associated with your father own this article and can dictate what the article can say or not say about the subject (WP:OWN). Wikipedia is only concerned with what reliable independent secondary sources say about the subject. Because you have a clear COI with the subject I suggest you not edit the article further and only make edit requests on the article talk page going forward. Please listen to our advice here. We are not against you but we must ensure that all information included in the article is properly sourced, and not to you. --ARoseWolf 15:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Look, I really don't care what your suggestion is concerning this article. You came here 2 years ago, I have been working on this page for more than a decade since the slanderous page was discovered. Information from the 1980's when he was labeled a prolific scorer, is not available on the internet. It predates the internet. So please tell me how to source that information. As I said, sources were and will be added. COI is determined by what when things are sourced? You mean like sourced from other Wiki pages that I did not start or edit? Your own pages are not good enough? Other websites that confirm work history? Other news sites? What is the criteria other than your opinion? My father asked this page be deleted more than a decade ago, and you people told him to not so gently go away. So, now before someone else starts another page about him, and it will happen, maybe all of you should get off your high horses and leave the page to be worked on as it was being worked on before these nameless faceless people got involved for no reason. Stick2700 (talk) 15:26, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia is tertiary. I'm sorry but it can not be used as a source for notability of a subject (See P, S, T for more details). --ARoseWolf 15:35, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I tried replying to Cullen, but it is disabled. My hostile remarks come with Wiki people taking it upon themselves to act first without asking questions. Wiki has ruined peoples lives with inaccurate information. Sourced material on many, many articles is missing. I will restore the article and attempt to source over the next few days. IF that's not acceptable, then delete it. The accusation of doing something for pay or for improper motives was completely uncalled for. If you want accuracy, it is your duty to protect people, the idea that anonymous people can come here and edit what ever they want is absolutely insane. This person who started this today, who we traced his IP and now will be getting a visit from Police, is the person who should be getting the talking to. Up until today, this page was relatively quiet except for a once in a while edit or vandalizing. Why it got so much attention today, is just unbelievable. Stick2700 (talk) 16:17, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

You have a conflict of interest and should not be editing the article directly. If you attempt to restore the unsourced material that has been removed, you will be reverted. You've already been warned about this. Use the talk page - Talk:Joe Kolodziej - to suggest edits, with appropriate sources. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@Stick2700 - you should also see our policy on legal threats, WP:NLT. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 16:36, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Stick2700, sources need not be online. If you have copies of newspaper or magazine articles, they can be cited. What is required is significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Your hostile remarks are not helping your cause, and what you say indicates that you have no idea how Wikipedia works. Asking people to leave the page alone pretty much guarantees that more editors will get involved. The end result will either be a better article or a deleted article. Cullen328 (talk) 15:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@Stick2700 I am confused by your comment that you traced the IP of the person who made the original post, and that person "now will be getting a visit from Police." Did you contact the person's local police department, state that the person made a comment on Wikipedia that you dislike, and then a police employee told you an officer would visit the person? That seems rather unlikely, so if you could clarify the meaning of your comment about a visit from the Police I would greatly appreciate it. Karenthewriter (talk) 16:57, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

The whole article has been nominated for deletion anyway. I suspect it will be deleted. And then, as I understand things, if someone comes and tries to create a new article with the same title, that someone will encounter a notice that such an article was deleted. What you had before most of it was just edited out might have removed the offending material, but it added basically a CV such as one might send with a resume--totally unnecessary for the problem you are--perhaps rightly--addressing. But if you do try such an article--or any article at all in the future, you must studiously avoid such phrases as:

• ... largest and well known brands ...
• ... prolific goal scorer ...
• ... widely considered one of the most influential ...
• ... represent the top amateur players ...
• ...viewed by many as to the the creation of a completely new...
• After being credited for ...
• ... as a key member of ...
• ... were credited with being ...
• ... Turning a failed publication into the largest most read ...
• A major leap forward

And I've omitted a lot of less clear-cut examples. Uporządnicki (talk) 17:11, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

As for future edits, Uporządnicki, I will try to refrain fromusing those types of phrases. Can you ensure every other Wiki page has those same types of phrases eliminated? Stick2700 (talk) 17:47, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Sure. I traced the IP. I sent the IP and trace information to the Michigan State Police who have an ongoing Stalking and Harassment investigation. If the person is found, they will be charged, and given their day in court. Like the person who started this page was, and that person was convicted, did time and released.

What Wiki doesnt know is that some people not only post hateful and inaccurate things here, but they post them in other places. Like photos of my fathers house taken from a car driving by my daughters room, at he grandfathers house. The subject of this article. Imagine that invasion of privacy and threatening behavior. Stick2700 (talk) 17:47, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

You do realize that legal threats aren't allowed on Wikipedia right? ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 17:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

You do realize that publishing false information is illegal in the EU right? My father is a resident of the EU. There is no threat. There is an ongoing investigation for stalking and harassment. You understand that if you have information and do not provide it, you are obstructing justice? I simply gave the information I have. I didnt make the law. Stick2700 (talk) 17:57, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

This isn't the EU. This is Wikipedia. The EU has no jurisdiction over Wikipedia. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 18:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

That's kind of a recklessly overbroad statement. Yes, Wikipedia has an internal rule of "no legal threats." That's not to say Wikipedia is above the law. Notice how diligent it is about not crossing Copyright law. And if something false is recklessly published here and ruins someone's life, I find it hard to believe that SOMEONE couldn't be held liable--whether it's Wikipedia or whoever wrote the "information." (And people HAVE published malicious fiction here; look at this famous example.) As I see it, the problem here is, first, someone who is--possibly with cause--angry has let his anger cloud his reason, and second, he has beyond taking steps to remove damaging material, and has taken to adding kind of over-the-top stuff--at least as far as articles in Wikipedia are concerned. Uporządnicki (talk) 18:45, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

How to get more editors to fix poorly written articles?

Battle of Chappar Chiri, Battle of Rahon (1710), Battle of Lohgarh, Battle of Jalalabad (1710), Battle of Gurdas Nangal, Battle of Rohilla, Battle of Amritsar (1634) and some other articles pertaining to medieval battles in the Indian subcontinent are either poorly written, or have an incorrect battle outcome, incorrect numbers in the infobox, or too few sources. It's too much work for one person to review and determine what to add or delete so how can I get more editors involved in fixing them? Thanks in advance. Kamhiri (talk) 11:28, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@Kamhiri

Hello! I know it is important to have up-to-date, reliable, accurate information about history in Wikipedia. As an Indian myself, I can assure you how painful it is to see topics related to Indian History being underrepresented. To properly find sources, and extend these articles, I would suggest asking everyone who you know and influencing them to come edit Wikipedia, and make them help you edit these. You can also contact professionals (professors, historians and conservationalists) and gather their knowledge.

However if this is not enough, you can send out a Geographically-specific notice, or conduct an editathon in your city, district or UT.

Regards, Narutmaru . To contact me, visit my Talk Page. 11:43, 26 April 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Narutmaru (talk • contribs)

Thanks Narutmaru, I will try to post a notice on Project India later today or tomorrow.

Kamhiri - I have these pages under my watch list and can provide help and assistance. MehmoodS (talk) 12:03, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Creating articles in sandbox

Hi, how do I create more than one article in my Sandbox?Openworks (talk) 12:10, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Openworks - simply create another sandbox - enter User:Openworks/sandbox 2, or whatever title you want (as long as it starts User:Openworks/ ) , in the search box, enter, and it will say "Start the User:Openworks/sandbox 2 page." - click on that and start editing - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 12:19, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

Is there a way you can send updates to someone in Wikipedia to update a page for you with purely factual information - if you have a conflict of interest? CJK1979 (talk) 12:42, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi CJK1979 - please see Wikipedia:Simple conflict of interest edit request - if that raises any questions/problems , please come back and provide more detail - thanks - Arjayay (talk) 12:46, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Fabulous I will take a look. Thank you so much for responding so quickly. This is the first time I have ever done anything like this :) CJK1979 (talk) 12:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Arjayay I have taken a look. I'm sorry for being stupid, can I just clarify that If i copy and paste my document which includes the updated factual info into the talk page, and then publish it. Will someone then review it and update the page? And if they have any concerns I take it they will let me know? CJK1979 (talk) 12:59, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi CJK1979 - In theory yes, but many editors are reluctant to change an entire page, as it is difficult/hard work to spot all the changes, check they are properly referenced and presented neutrally. It is far better to make incremental changes, in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ". - Arjayay (talk) 13:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Ok super so maybe if I do it section by section to make it clear, over a couple of weeks - does that sound like a better idea. Also is there any guarantee to how quickly this will get done? sorry for all the Qs CJK1979 (talk) 13:09, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@CJK1979 section by section is definitely a much better idea, because some changes might be accepted, others not. There is no guarantee of time, because we are all WP:VOLUNTEERS and not in a rush because WP:There is no deadline. Hope that helps, happy editing! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 13:42, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Massively thank you so much :) CJK1979 (talk) 13:43, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Article references question

 Courtesy link: Draft:Conflict of Nations: World War III

Hi there. An article I wrote about an online game was rejected due to lack of references.

I realize that most of the article, about gameplay, indeed lacks references. I'm not really sure what to do about it though. I play the game a lot, and I wrote it based off my knowledge of the game. The game's wiki isn't an independent source, so I'm not sure what I can really reference for that section. Any advice is appreciated! Thanks. ~~~ GreenBeret1439 (talk) 13:47, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@GreenBeret1439 If you can't source it, delete it. It may seem harsh but that's the only way we can keep articles from decaying to collections of personal anecdotes. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi, GreenBeret1439, and welcome to the Teahouse! Adding information based off your knowledge of the game typically counts as original research in Wikipedia, which is not allowed. However, the guideline for plot summaries indicates that the work itself is assumed the primary source for the plot summary, which is acceptable. (See WP:PLOTCITE for further information.) You will still need to make sure that any quotations and all parts of the article not about the gameplay are referenced, though. Hope this helps, and happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 14:27, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi GreenBeret1439, I can add a couple of tips that helped me with sources in the past. One is to put this little template somewhere temporarily (like your userpage) and click on the links it generates. That will help you find some of these independent reliable sources that you need. {{Find sources AFD|title=Conflict of Nations: World War III}}

A second idea is to look at existing articles for games similar to the one you want to write about and see what kinds of sources they have for what kinds of material. I expect you’re going to need to find things like a magazine that reviewed the game, a newspaper article about how the game has become really popular. For example, look at Eve Online. It’s got info like why the game is significant (sourced to a magazine top 50 games list), how it has impacted the real world (an article about a museum exhibit based on the game), who owns and distributes it + number of subscribers (business press articles), how gameplay works (sourced to game’s own materials), tournament events (news articles), how it was developed (news interviews with the creators) etc etc. If you can’t find anything like this for your game, it probably isn’t significant enough yet to write an article in an encyclopedia but you can also patiently wait until there is news coverage and then try later. 70.67.193.176 (talk) 15:43, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Issues with page

Titles on pages on Wikipedia mobile are in bold, as well as subsection titles, don’t know if other people who are on Mobil are experiencing the same issues but just letting all of you all know. BigRed606 (talk) 16:48, 26 April 2022 (UTC) 

Make a phabricator ticket. QuickQuokka ^{[⁠talk • contribs]} 18:36, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@BigRed606 Possibly related to the recent changes made to the desktop project this week. See Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements. QuickQuokka's suggestion of a phabricator ticket is a good one too. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 18:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Contributing

How does one contribute positively to wikipedia? StarMan6942069 (talk) 17:30, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@StarMan6942069 I'll post some welcome templates and other invites on your user talk page EvergreenFir (talk) 17:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Great question! EvergreenFir gave you a lot of good resources. You can also get a set of editing suggestions on your homepage; if you don't already have this turned on, you can do so by going to your Preferences, scrolling all the way down on the "User Page" tab, and selecting the "Display newcomer homepage" checkbox. Happy editing! Perfect4th (talk) 17:38, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

How to not have draft in a draft title.

Im making an article right now and whenever I read it I notice that the title says, Draft: (article name) . Is this only gonna be there until it gets approved? :/ IPopCornWasHere (talk) 19:17, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@IPopCornWasHere: Welcome to the Teahouse. Pretty much. If you think it's ready for review you can add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the page to put it in the Articles for Creation backlog. As it is, however, it won't pass muster, because it doesn't have inline citations, and its notability (as Wikipedia defines it) isn't established. Please read Easy referencing for beginners to learn more about using said inline citations. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:20, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Courtesy: Draft:Sonic CD Sound Tests.

Outdated information - Paul Andrew (designer)

Hello-

The page for Paul Andrew (designer) is quite outdated. This final sentence in the first paragraph:

In February 2019, Andrew was named Creative Director of both men’s and women’s categories at Salvatore Ferragamo after having served as Women’s Creative Director since October 2017.

Should be edited to read:

In February 2019, Andrew was named Creative Director of both men’s and women’s categories at Salvatore Ferragamo after having served as Women’s Creative Director since October 2017 and consequently elected to shutter his eponymous shoe brand. After leaving Ferragamo in May 2021, Andrew relaunched his namesake brand in February 2022.

Source:

https://www.vogue.com/article/paul-andrew-reveals-his-comenback-collection/amp

Jennifercoxpr (talk) 19:40, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Jennifercoxpr Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I assume that the "pr" in your username means that you represent Mr. Andrew; if so, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID for information on required formal disclosures. Regarding your inquiry, please direct this suggestion to the article talk page, Talk:Paul Andrew (designer), in the form of an edit request(click for instructions). 331dot (talk) 19:46, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you - yes I handle PR for Mr. Andrew, which I have disclosed on my page. I have made suggested edits in the article talk page but will do so again... As his article is more than a year out of date we are just attempting to make it current. Jennifercoxpr (talk) 19:48, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Jennifercoxpr I now see your edit request; I might suggest that you slim it down to just one or two changes at a time- a lengthy request may intimidate the volunteers that review them, or it may be harder to find a volunteer willing to invest the time in a long request. 331dot (talk) 19:53, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you - I just now submitted a much more concise edit to start! Jennifercoxpr (talk) 19:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Be sure to post at Talk:Paul Andrew (designer), not Talk:Paul Andrew. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 19:55, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

What to do with this IP?

Hello, i've just been on a RC Patrol and have ID'd an IP that has been constantly vandalizing pages, ignoring warnings and is posting insulting messages on talkpages, is there anywhere i can report this user to the admins or should i wait to see if he will stop or ignore and let someone else take care of matters? you can find the IP in my contribution history, wait he has posted a message to my talkpage calling me a loser.

Sincerely OGWFP (talk) 21:58, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

You can report at WP:AIV. Perfect4th (talk) 22:13, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I reported it here. Obvious vandalism can be reported there and it's usually acted on quickly. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 22:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Suggestions

I have a feature request; where should I suggest it? Lincoln1809 (talk) 23:49, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

@Lincoln1809: Welcome. Post your idea at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab) RudolfRed (talk) 23:52, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals to see if your idea has been suggested before. RudolfRed (talk) 23:53, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Multiple citations for one reference (ibid)

Hey all, I'm working on an article about a newly signed NHL player. It's at User:Scriptwriter/Ryker Evans if you'd like to take a look.

First, I'd like to make sure that he's notable enough to have his own article. I would think this is the case but I figure it won't hurt to make sure. I can always hold the article if necessary, but he was a high draft pick and most of the other players on his new team have pages of their own, so I figure he's a safe bet.

Second, I plan to cite an article about him in at least two different places in the entry, once under "Early life and family" and once under "Regina Pats" (which I haven't started yet). What's the best way to do an ibid-style citation on a web reference?

And third, I'll listen to any style suggestions people might have. It's been years since I created an article from scratch, and never one this complex with tables and the like. Thanks. Scriptwriter (talk) 00:13, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Scriptwriter. Trying asking about your draft at Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey since the members of that particular WikiProject can probably help assess whether Evans satisfies Wikipedia's notability guideline for hockey players. As for you question about citations, try looking at MOS:IBID for some information on this type of thing; generally, the use of "ibid" in Wikipedia articles is discouraged, but there are other ways to cite the same source multiuple times depending on which citation style your using. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:54, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

What, you mean not everybody lives and breathes ice hockey? 😆 Thanks for the pointers; I'll go give them the once over. Scriptwriter (talk) 04:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

I'd like to delete a document ...

... but the (empty) document was created not by me, and it was created in Arabic (which I don't speak), so I can't read the editing prompts. "Hayhohe11/stadium" is the document. Maybe suspicious? Hayhohe11 (talk) 02:29, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

hi Hayhole11! do you mean an article created in the Arabic Wikipedia? unfortunately each language wikipedia is a separate project, so we can't really help you (unless someone who knows Arabic finds it and tags it for deletion). over in enwiki, Hayhohe11/stadium doesn't exist, as well as a possible userspace counterpart. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 02:38, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

sorry! pingfix: @Hayhohe11 💜  melecie  talk - 02:40, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Global contribution check turns up nothing but this. I'm sorry, @Hayhohe11, but the page does not appear to exist, and therefore cannot be deleted. If, for whatever reason, the page does exist, please write {{g7}} at the top of the page if you are the only contributor, which will alert an admin that you are the only contributor and wish to delete it. casualdejekyll 02:45, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

I think I understand: I was somehow sent a welcome notification from Arabic wiki which I clicked in and ended up starting the creation of a "sandbox" page there, which auto-filled the title in Arabic which translated to "Hayhohe11/stadium." Whew! Hayhohe11 (talk) 03:53, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, everyone! Hayhohe11 (talk) 03:54, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

How do I use the SuggestBot?

Hi, I have used Wikipedia to edit an article before, but I'm not sure how to use SuggestBot. I've seen the article guidelines, but I still don't get it. How would I do it? PoliticallyPassionateGamer (talk) 02:33, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, PoliticallyPassionateGamer. You do not really "use" SuggestBot, except to adjust its settings if you want. The bot monitors your edits and your preferences, and sends you lists of suggestions of articles that you may choose to edit. If you choose to edit some of them, that's fine. If you choose not to edit them, that's fine too. Cullen328 (talk) 05:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Tool to check how much of a specific page was written by a specific editor?

I remember the existence of a tool used for GA attribution which checked roughly how much of an article was written by a specific editor.. Am I misremembering? Which tool is this? (ping on reply please) casualdejekyll 02:48, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

hi casualdejekyll and welcome to the teahouse! I believe that would be mw:XTools's Authorship module. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 02:50, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello casualdejekyll! Just to add to the above correct info, you can also see that same information as part of the Page statistics for articles. To view those go to the article you're interested in & click View History - Page statistics. Authorship pie chart as well as other interesting data will be listed. - Hope this is of help! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 08:21, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

How does a non-admin close an AfD with the result delete?

If the consensus is to delete how do I request an admin to do so? Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 04:22, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Iamreallygoodatcheckers. Your section heading contradicts your question. Wikipedia:Non-admin closure makes it clear that non-administrators should not try to close discussions that require administrator's tools to implement. Requesting is another thing. You can certainly reach out to an administrator who actively closes AfDs, and say, "Hey, the consensus looks pretty clear here. Will you close it?" Cullen328 (talk) 04:32, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Cullen328: thanks for letting me know! Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 04:34, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Appears you did a non-admin disclosure at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sender (band). While seven days had passed between nomination and your action, proposing a Speedy keep would have been a better action. There was no need for haste for an article decision about a band that disbanded in 2014. David notMD (talk) 07:42, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft

Hello. Perhaps someone is familiar with Russian sources? I created an article, but the reviewers refuse to look at it. The sources are all Russian, except for one source - American Forbes. If someone could see the draft, I would be very grateful!31.40.143.16 (talk) 08:39, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

31.40.143.16,

I do not see any problem as long as all the sources are reliable and trustworthy. However, if you yourself do not know Russian, and used Machine Translation (GoogleTranslate, etc) , then there is a possibility of change of words, or meaning. Even if you did not directly paste the translated version, it still might have had some changes. Regards, Narutmaru . To contact me, visit my Talk Page. 09:00, 27 April 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Narutmaru (talk • contribs)

can i use TV channel Youtube video as person notifiable as a reference source in edit?

I have question about the notifiable person on internet i am creating article Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft%3AMaxordan If a person appears on TV Channel game show in past 2016 and now in 2022 the channel is close or platform completely change and the reference link is removed from official website but the videos are available in Youtube from TV channel show page can i am able to use the Youtube video link as source of person notability? can i also use IMDb Show page and public profile for notability? 91.73.217.133 (talk) 09:05, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Im afraid that being "on Internet", appearing in a game show, or being on YouTube or IMDb contribute absolutely nothing towards someone's suitability for a Wikipedia article. As you have been advised, you would instead need to find reliable secondary sources. Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:32, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

How to improve the features of Wikipedia?

Is it possible to improve certain features provided by Wikipedia, for public usage? Do you need permission from the foundation or something? Regards, Narutmaru . To contact me, visit my Talk Page. 09:08, 27 April 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Narutmaru (talk • contribs)

@Narutmaru: Hi. What exactly do you mean by improving features "for public usage"? And how? Also kindly remove excessive spacing from the wikilinks of your signature. Maybe it is confusing the sinebot. —usernamekiran (talk) 09:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

SS or ß?

Hello, sorry if this has already been asked but there's nothing in MOS/Music that answers this, in songs that involve the eszett (ß), should I use a double ss, or the eszett? Thanks X-750 _{I've made a mistake, haven't I?} 10:10, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Because most English readers wouldn't know that eszett is interchangeable with ss, Wikipedia:Naming conventions (standard letters with diacritics) recommends using ss in article title, with an appropriate redirect. I had a hard time finding this, so will help improve its find-ability. Great question! ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 11:12, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Pinging @X750 ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 11:12, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Shushugah, also applicable to track listings written in German?

Example:

No.	Title	Length
1.	"Stoßgebet"	4:00
2.	"Stossgebet"	4:00

Top or bottom? X-750 _{I've made a mistake, haven't I?} 11:16, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

I am trying to get the article Lucy McCarraher published. Although it has the same amount level of referencing of two other articles I have published (more than than some biographies I have seen) it keeps getting turned down. I'm not sure what else I could be expected to supply.

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Draft:Lucy_McCarraher&oldid=1084926979 DamesnetV (talk) 11:20, 27 April 2022 (UTC)