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== External links quality ==

The external link section of this article contains three amateur websites. None of these are remotely reliable sources. The first article is presented as a "study", the second is a blog, and the third is an archived article of no merit. They're about as useful to this article as a link to a "ghost hunter" article would be to [[folkloristics]]. The only thing these links are doing is bringing down the quality of the article—they need to be removed. [[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] ([[User talk:Bloodofox|talk]]) 19:48, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
:I think the second would qualify as a reliable source, actually - while it's [[WP:SPS|self-published]], the author appears to have been published in the topic area by reputable organizations. [[User:Nikkimaria|Nikkimaria]] ([[User talk:Nikkimaria|talk]]) 20:50, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
::You have a point in that the author is a member of the Folklore Society, although he seems to be otherwise self-taught (his background appears to be in relatively unrelated fields). However, in this case it's probably best a question of: do we need this information here? It just seems to briefly repeat what we have in the article. The link only seems to serve to advertise the author's site. [[User:Bloodofox|:bloodofox:]] ([[User talk:Bloodofox|talk]]) 21:01, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
::*The third one adds nothing, and I removed it. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 05:40, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
::*Same with the anomaly one. For the other one, I'll run with Nikkimaria for now, though it does not seem to add much. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 05:43, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


== CP concerns ==
== CP concerns ==

Revision as of 17:17, 1 May 2022

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CP concerns

Hey all. This was a fascinating read, and I'd like to thank user:drmies and others for writing it. However I have some concers re close paraphrasing and over-reliance on certain sources. I gather from the FAC that no spotchecks were done, which I find a bit bewildering. Anyway, let's have a look:

  • Article: In a modern development of the tale the green children are associated with the Babes in the Wood, who were left by their wicked uncle to die; in this version the children's green colouration is explained by their having been poisoned with arsenic. Fleeing from the wood in which they were abandoned, possibly nearby Thetford Forest, the children fell into the pits at Woolpit where they were discovered.
  • Source: In what seems to have been a recent development of the story […] the children are identified with the familiar "Babes in the Wood" […] According to this version, their green coloration was due to arsenic administered by their wicked uncle; fleeing from the wood where they were abandoned (perhaps nearby Thetford Forest), they stumbled into the pits at Woolpit
  • Article: The second is that it is a garbled account of a real event
  • Source: Others accept it as a garbled account of an actual occurrence
  • Article: Ralph's account in his Chronicum Anglicanum, written some time during the 1220s, incorporates information from Sir Richard de Calne of Wykes, who reportedly gave the green children refuge in his manor, six miles (9.7 km) to the north of Woolpit.
  • Source: Ralph of Coggeshall's version, in his Chronicon Anglicanum (English Chronicle), was not finally written down until the 1220s; but it incorporated information from a certain Richard de Calne of Wykes, who had reportedly given the Green Children refuge in his manor.

I found those instances only after spending five minutes spotchecking the first source, which the article IMHO is over-reliant on. I also think it's kinda weird that no pages are cited for journal articles (which can have rather long page ranges, like Clark 2006, Lawton 1931, Lunan 1996, Orne 1995, Walsh 2000, etc.). FWIW Eisfbnore (会話) 21:35, 15 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't seen new comment for more than a year, so I will submit to FAR for this.--Q28 (talk) 20:43, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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