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:Thought the PL48 or PQ48 is pulled from a press release or something, so I regarded it as reliable sources. I also thought "a combination of the Golf/Rabbit and Passat platforms" makes a lot of sense because the Tiguan uses the Golf Plus dashboard. [[User:Andra Febrian|Andra Febrian]] ([[User talk:Andra Febrian|talk]]) 08:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC) |
:Thought the PL48 or PQ48 is pulled from a press release or something, so I regarded it as reliable sources. I also thought "a combination of the Golf/Rabbit and Passat platforms" makes a lot of sense because the Tiguan uses the Golf Plus dashboard. [[User:Andra Febrian|Andra Febrian]] ([[User talk:Andra Febrian|talk]]) 08:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC) |
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Almost all sources I can find agree that this car is an SUV, with ''[https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/22/volkswagen-tiguan-car-review-family-martin-love the Guardian]'' (significant for being a mainstream rather than specialist publication) being the main exception I've found so far. ''[https://www.driving.co.uk/car-reviews/2018-volkswagen-tiguan-allspace-review/ The Sunday Times]'' calls it a {{tq|child-friendly SUV}}. [https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/vw/tiguan/24845 Euro NCAP] say it is part of the "{{tq|small off-road}}" class and say it has a "{{tq|5 door SUV}}" body style. [https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/car-reviews/volkswagen/tiguan/tiguan/ The RAC] calls the Tiguan a "{{tq|mid-sized SUV}}" and comments that it is more capable off-road than crossovers like the [[Nissan Qashqai]]. [https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/tiguan/21326/new-volkswagen-tiguan-r-line-review-a-rewarding-suv Evo] just calls it an SUV. ''[[https://www.caranddriver.com/volkswagen/tiguan Car and Driver]]'' and ''[https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/tiguan Autocar]'' call it a "{{tq|compact SUV}}". ''[https://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/volkswagen/tiguan Top Gear magazine]'' call it a {{tq|medium-sized SUV}}. ''[https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/tiguan Auto Express]'' call it a "{{tq|mid-sized SUV}}" and note that its market competitors include crossovers, but does not use this term to describe the Tiguan itself. ''[https://www.parkers.co.uk/volkswagen/tiguan/review/practicality/ Parker's Car Guides] also calls it a "{{tq|mid-sized SUV}}". ''[https://www.whatcar.com/volkswagen/tiguan/estate/review/n17357 What Car?]'' calls it a "{{tq|family SUV}}". This survey of sources would suggest to me that it is inappropriate (and probably [[WP:OR]]) to call the Tiguan a "crossover" and that its size should not be referred to on first introduction and instead the contrasting views of different sources on its size should be attributed with context to avoid [[WP:SYNTH]]. [[User:HumanBodyPiloter5|HumanBodyPiloter5]] ([[User talk:HumanBodyPiloter5|talk]]) 08:48, 15 June 2022 (UTC) |
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AWD vs. Front Wheel Drive
The vehicle is stated as having all wheel drive (AWD) with optional front wheel drive. The website, however, states the following for the S model: Front wheel drive, manual gear box ...and for the other three models: Front wheel drive, automatic gear box AQ450-6F. Am I missing something? Or was AWD previously offered on the Tiguan, but is no longer? Savonnn (talk) 22:32, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
Beduin / Bedouin
This page should not be here under the Bedouin name as Volkswagen has not officially christened this name or Marrekesh.VWphaetonfan
Perhaps change this to Concept A page
- Well, it is generally called Beduin or Bedouin in the media. So why not keep it here until the real name is announced?
- I saw you changed the spelling from Beduin to Bedouin in the article. Any specific reason? On a google test I got slightly more results with the Beduin spelling, which is the German spelling of bedouin. --Boivie 09:55, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Ok I'm new here & a VW fanatic I thought Bedouin was the German spelling but you have proof that it is Beduin.
It is also generally called Marrekesh to. anyway I added Concept A seen it's nearer to the production version. VWphaetonfan
- Well, if you need proof, you can check the German Wikipedia-article about the Bedouin people: de:Beduine. (I think Beduine is the plural form of Beduin) --Boivie 07:00, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Merge with Tiguan
I disagree, Beduin/Tiguan is same vehicle why do we merge threads why not delete this one thereby saving space.--VWphaetonfan 09:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well there is information here which is not in the other article, and which will be lost of the whole article is deleted.Hektor 16:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've moved all the information to the Tiguan article because the Tiguan name has been confirmed. How about changing the Beduin articles to redirects? -- NaBUru38 22:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Seems the next right move to me. Hektor 17:45, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
- If Tiguan has been finalized, and Beduin (or Bedouin) is not being used in additional markets or at all, then this article should be redirected to the Tiguan page. Still, either name is a terrible name for a crossover.
I have moved the talk page from Volkswagen Beduin over here as part of the merge. Arkyan • (talk) 16:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Tiguan crash in China
There is no evidence of a speed of 220 kph, and even the ChinaAutoWeb page states that this value is based on "unconfirmed reports" and "has beed challenged by many". Unless somebody comes up with a reliable souce I'd remove this sentence... 194.114.62.72 (talk) 15:41, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Platform Discussion
I wanted to discuss User:Andra Febrian's recent edit changing the platform to "PL/PQ48". I believe this is inaccurate, but didn't want to revert since it's properly sourced.
I don't believe PL/PQ48 is a platform at all, but is simply speculation/uncertainty about what would ultimately be the MLB and MQB platforms. Both the cited references pre-date the Tiguan's official release, whereas another reference following the official release reports PQ46. The confusion seems to be around the Tiguan sharing a platform with the Passat, stating the Tiguan is "a combination of the Golf/Rabbit and Passat platforms - one which will eventually be shared with Audi's A4, A5 and Q5". In reality, the Passat had just (or was about to) switched from the longitudinal "PL45" platform to the transverse "PQ46" platform (a parts sharing variant of the Golf's PQ35 platform), while the next generation Audis would continue on their own platform. A different source seems to concur, speculating the A5 and Q5 to utilize a "PQ48" platform, and the Tiguan the PQ35 platformnote.
As the 6th generation Golf remained on the PQ35 platform, there was not a PQ36 platform prior to the MQB platform that underpins the 7th generation Golf. Similarly, following the timeline of the Volkswagen Group B platform, the 5th generation "B5" Passat shared the PL45 platform with the Audi A4, but the PL46 and PL47 platforms were exclusive to Audi for the "B6" and "B7" A4, with the "B8" A4 moving to the MLB platform. As such, there were never "PL48" or "PQ48" platforms and any reference to them is simply speculation based on the nomenclature of the time.
note: I believe PQ35 an accurate description of the platform. The Tiguan shares many parts with the PQ35 Golf, but is dimensionally more similar to the Passat.
Absent any disagreement and further discussion I plan to remove any mention of these platforms. IPBilly (talk) 20:00, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thought the PL48 or PQ48 is pulled from a press release or something, so I regarded it as reliable sources. I also thought "a combination of the Golf/Rabbit and Passat platforms" makes a lot of sense because the Tiguan uses the Golf Plus dashboard. Andra Febrian (talk) 08:28, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Looking for sources casts doubts on "compact crossover" claim
Almost all sources I can find agree that this car is an SUV, with the Guardian (significant for being a mainstream rather than specialist publication) being the main exception I've found so far. The Sunday Times calls it a child-friendly SUV
. Euro NCAP say it is part of the "small off-road
" class and say it has a "5 door SUV
" body style. The RAC calls the Tiguan a "mid-sized SUV
" and comments that it is more capable off-road than crossovers like the Nissan Qashqai. Evo just calls it an SUV. [Car and Driver] and Autocar call it a "compact SUV
". Top Gear magazine call it a medium-sized SUV
. Auto Express call it a "mid-sized SUV
" and note that its market competitors include crossovers, but does not use this term to describe the Tiguan itself. Parker's Car Guides also calls it a "mid-sized SUV
". What Car? calls it a "family SUV
". This survey of sources would suggest to me that it is inappropriate (and probably WP:OR) to call the Tiguan a "crossover" and that its size should not be referred to on first introduction and instead the contrasting views of different sources on its size should be attributed with context to avoid WP:SYNTH. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 08:48, 15 June 2022 (UTC)