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British equivalent?

On the Triple Crown of Acting page it mentions the British equiv, BAFTA TV, BAFTA Film, Oliiver. Shouldn't there be a Brit version of the EGOT? It should be mentioned here. -- 20:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.183.33 (talk)

• We can't make up a version of the EGOT for other countries ourselves; that would be original research. The concept of the combination of awards has to be notable in itself. For example, well before Wikipedia was established, I remember reading in the Guinness Book of World Records about how Rita Moreno was the only person to have won the Oscar, Emmy, Grammy, and Tony, thus indicating that the idea of winning all four awards was a notable concept. In 1985, The New York Times referred to Moreno as "the only actress to win a Tony, an Emmy, a Grammy and an Oscar." [1] (In actuality, Moreno wasn't the first person or the first actress to have won all four awards, but the fact that these sources wrote about the combination of wins helps establish that this combination is indeed notable.) --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:02, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 27 April 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to List of EGOT winners. The consensus for moving is strong and the argument that the entire point of this page is the acronym, and hence it's use in the title is excusable, is convincing. (non-admin closure) FOARP (talk) 19:45, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

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List of people who have won Academy, Emmy, Grammy, and Tony Awards → List of people who have won Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony Awards – Here's another article where WP:CONSISTENT apparently conflicts with WP:COMMONNAME, and consensus needs to determine which guideline prevails. Since there has not yet been an RM on record for this specific issue, better late than never. On the one hand the current article title is consistent with the Academy Awards article title in using "Academy" instead of "Oscar". On the other hand, most of the sources cited in this article use "Oscar", and explicitly spell out the "EGOT" acronym (Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony), and put those awards in that order when referring to this list of people. Also when I do a Google search of "academy emmy grammy tony winners" many of the reliable sources I see that talk about the EGOT winners primarily use "Oscar", while many of those that primarily use "Academy" seem to be Wikipedia mirrors. There is also precedence for using "Oscar" instead of "Academy": it's currently Oscar bait and Oscar season, not "Academy Award bait" and "Academy Award season". Zzyzx11 (talk) 02:46, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

• How about List of EGOT winners? Although acronyms should generally be avoided in article titles, EGOT is such well-known shorthand for the topic, that this may qualify as an exception. It's also more WP:CONCISE. Otherwise, I support the proposal as being closer to a common name. Station1 (talk) 22:59, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
• I also like List of EGOT winners. But as an aside, I think the current title could actually be improved just by changing the order to: List of people who have won Emmy, Grammy, Tony, and Academy Awards. The reason that the "Academy" part of the current title stands out like a sore thumb is that it's the only one that isn't used as an abbreviation without the word "award". i.e. you can win an Emmy, you can win a Tony, but you can't win an Academy. So relocating 'Academy' so that it's next to the word 'Award' helps ease the dissonance. Colin M (talk) 00:45, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
• List of EGOT winners makes more sense to me too. -- Calidum 15:16, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
• Support List of EGOT winners, as title pertains to collective acronym anyway. Best, --Discographer (talk) 10:03, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
• Support List of EGOT winners. I've pulled up this list a number of times just as a reader, and I don't think I've ever done so through a route other than typing in "EGOT" and relying on the redirect, always feeling a bit bemused to be taken to such an unwieldy title. If it's not moved to this title, though, "Academy" should definitely be changed to "Oscar", preferable with reordering in E/G/O/T order. -- Tamzin (she/they) | o toki tawa mi. 11:05, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
• Support List of people who have won Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony Awards as per proposal. EGOT isn't a universally understood acronym, and I don't think it's ideal to have it as the title of this article when there are decent alternatives. Agree that title reads strangely as it stands (not least since Emmy and Grammy awards are also awarded by an "Academy") and think that the proposed title is much tidier. It also feels more consistent, both internally and in relation to the EGOT acronym. Dybeck (talk) 09:31, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
• Comment: This page seems to be more than just a list. The lead seems to suggest it was intended to be about the acronym itself, supplemented by a list. -2pou (talk) 21:12, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

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Nobel

User:Felida97, I based the addition of Dylan's Nobel partly on Francis Ford Coppola's famous claim that Apocalypse Now would be the first film to win a Nobel Prize[2] (it didn't, despite winning 2 Oscars). Others undoubtedly aspired to it without saying so out loud. There is no "NEGOT" because nobody in show biz before 2016 actually got the Nobel, yet it fits the EGOT concept and frankly transcends the regular EGOT categories. So some kind of special mention seems apropos, though I'm not attached to my wording. I won't unrevert a 2nd time but I believe this is something to consider. 2602:24A:DE47:BA60:8FCB:EA4E:7FBD:4814 (talk) 19:30, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for addressing this topic here on the talk page. I agree that the Nobel prize is probably a higher honor than the EGOT awards, but I still think this is out of the scope of this article or the specific section. But I will also not revert you again and I will just wait and see what other editors think. Felida97 (talk) 07:17, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good. It occurs to me that the Nobel doesn't have a 1 year eligibility window like the EGOT, so Apocalypse Now might theoretically still win it, heh. 2602:24A:DE47:BA60:8FCB:EA4E:7FBD:4814 (talk) 21:52, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Links in EGOT Winner Chart

The blue name links in the EGOT winner chart do not seem to be working for me. They do not lead to the person’s wiki page or scroll me down to their section of this page either. I am on mobile so it might just be an issue with that! I don’t know proper code technique or else I’d try to figure it out myself. Noavailableusernames1832 (talk) 21:22, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Who counts as a winner?

How exactly is it determined which of the people who helped create an award-winning work themselves won that award? Jennifer Hudson is listed as having won a Tony for A Strange Loop, but it was the play itself that won a Tony (for Best Musical), and Hudson is only one of many producers of the play. So where is the line drawn? Does everyone credited in a Best Picture Oscar winner count as having won an Oscar, including actors who only had one line? Oooooooseven (talk) 14:56, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

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