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We have multiple sushi restaurants in the Houston area with things they call 'Houston rolls' or 'Texas Rolls' or even 'NASA rolls', but that doesn't mean they are a de facto recipe for a well known sushi roll - in fact, they are usually different from each and every sushi bar. I submit this is the same thing, just in hot dog format instead of sushi.
We have multiple sushi restaurants in the Houston area with things they call 'Houston rolls' or 'Texas Rolls' or even 'NASA rolls', but that doesn't mean they are a de facto recipe for a well known sushi roll - in fact, they are usually different from each and every sushi bar. I submit this is the same thing, just in hot dog format instead of sushi.


As such, let's please remove this food atrocity from the wikipedia article. Almost nobody in the Houston area is familiar with this (4+ million people can't possibly all be wrong). I do see multiple attempts were made to remove it, but it was reinstated for reasons I don't really understand. We don't really have a special hot dog for our area. we tend to like what we like, whether it be 'old faithful' with 'standard' toppings, or chili and cheese, or 'chicago style' (which IS a recognized set of condiments). <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:2C5:847F:EC90:9CAE:3C1:247E:D51B|2601:2C5:847F:EC90:9CAE:3C1:247E:D51B]] ([[User talk:2601:2C5:847F:EC90:9CAE:3C1:247E:D51B#top|talk]]) 17:00, 22 June 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
As such, let's please remove this food atrocity from the wikipedia article. Almost nobody in the Houston area is familiar with this (4+ million people can't possibly all be wrong). Those who ARE familiar with this 'version' only know it because they have been to this vendor. I do see multiple attempts were made to remove reference to it from the wikipedia article, but it was reinstated for reasons I don't really understand.
We don't really have a special hot dog for our area. we tend to like what we like, whether it be 'old faithful' with 'standard' toppings, or chili and cheese, or 'chicago style' (which IS a recognized set of condiments). <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2601:2C5:847F:EC90:9CAE:3C1:247E:D51B|2601:2C5:847F:EC90:9CAE:3C1:247E:D51B]] ([[User talk:2601:2C5:847F:EC90:9CAE:3C1:247E:D51B#top|talk]]) 17:00, 22 June 2022 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Australia

Australian Hot Dog.

The Australian Hot Dog is only known as a 'Democracy Dog' on Federal Election Day[1]. It differs from other nations in that it is specifically caramelized onion, sausage, and a piece of sandwich thickness white bread,[2] with 'tomato sauce' (Ketchup)[3]. At other days of the year this 'hot dog' is referred to as a 'sanga'.[4]

Otherwise the 'hot dog' described as mustard, ketchup, frankfurter, shredded cheese and a bun is recognised as a 'hot dog' but generally sold as American Cuisine. ArchStudos (talk) 13:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

​Could you point to a reliable source we can cite for this? – Thjarkur (talk) 13:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

While they are typically media sources - (sauces?) - these should help substantiate what is being said. Tripple M and SBS is one of the most well respected tv-news sources in the nation. I am sur there is an academic article on the health concern that could mention it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArchStudos (talk • contribs) 05:20, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ArchStudos, Are you looking to have Australia added to this list as I do not see it on here? Galendalia Talk to me CVU Graduate 18:31, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello :Galendalia I originally suggested a change to the information that was written on the Australian Hot Dog. After supplying the requested references, the 'Australian Hot Dog' section was removed entirely. (the original post had called the hot dog a 'democracy dog' but not indicated the time span, and had also omitted elements such as the white slice of bread, and caramelized onions). Which doesn't completely answer your question. Yes, as there is no current reference to what the second source terms a 'national food' it would be good to see it included. Kindly - ArchStudos

 Not done for now: @ArchStudos: Sorry, I'm having a little trouble understanding what exactly the request currently is given that some things have changed in the article. If you could clarify what changes you'd like made in a "change X to Y" format, then this could be a useful addition. Please do so below, and be sure to include what information is coming from which source, as well as where in the article you'd like to see the change made. You may then reopen the request by changing the "answered" parameter from "yes" to "no." I see that this request has gone unanswered for a long time; in the future, you can avoid a long wait by making your edit requests simple enough that an unfamiliar editor can quickly judge whether your suggestion is constructive. Please note that if a discussion starts regarding your edit request, you should move the discussion to another section on the talk page and return to the edit request section only after a consensus has been reached. Thanks. — Tartan357  (Talk) 23:07, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tartan357] the edit request is right there; it's an "insert Y" edit request to the section Oceania.
The edit request, in an alternative format.

==Oceania== ===Australian Hot Dog=== The Australian Hot Dog is only known as a 'Democracy Dog' on Federal Election Day[5]. It differs from other nations in that it is specifically caramelized onion, sausage, and a piece of sandwich thickness white bread,[6] with "tomato sauce" (American ketchup)[7]. At other days of the year this "hot dog" is referred to as a 'sanga'. The term "sanga"[8] derives from the colloquialism of calling a barbecued sausage a 'snag'.

Otherwise the 'hot dog' described as mustard, ketchup, frankfurter, shredded cheese and a bun must be clarified as an "American style hot dog".

References

  1. ^ https://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/2017/11/01/25-aussie-classics-worth-daydreaming-about
  2. ^ https://www.triplem.com.au/story/the-aussie-sausage-sanga-is-proving-a-snag-to-good-health-85655
  3. ^ https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/bunnings-hotdog-onions-scli-intl/index.html
  4. ^ https://www.news-mail.com.au/news/backlash-against-the-backlash-as-polarised-austral/3575200/
  5. ^ SBS Food, (2017) '25 Aussie classics worth daydreaming about' in SBS. Item 21, 'Sausage Sanga', https://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/2017/11/01/25-aussie-classics-worth-daydreaming-about
  6. ^ Triple M Radio, (2019) 'The Aussie Sausage Sanga Is Proving A Snag To Good Health‘A massive concern’ in National News, https://www.triplem.com.au/story/the-aussie-sausage-sanga-is-proving-a-snag-to-good-health-85655
  7. ^ Matthew Robinson, (2018)'Australians outraged over Sausage Sizzle safety ruling ' in CNN • Updated 26th November. https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/bunnings-hotdog-onions-scli-intl/index.html
  8. ^ by Ben Graham (2018) 'Fury over Bunnings sanga saga' in News Mail, 14th Nov 8:53 AM., https://www.news-mail.com.au/news/backlash-against-the-backlash-as-polarised-austral/3575200/
I haven't gotten a chance to review the sources, so I am reactivating this edit request. {{reply to|Can I Log In}}'s talk page! 04:18, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

defining "hot dog"

Do we need to define what qualifies as a hot dog? I'm seeing sausages being added into this list. In the US, a hot dog is an emulsified, extruded sausage. Not all sausages are hot dogs. Is this not true in other places? —valereee (talk) 18:05, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should, as always, rely on the sources. If a source calls it a "<whatever> dog" then we accept that. Sausage rolls are a different topic though. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:18, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Texas: "Houston Dog" is becoming a Mandela Effect-esque item

The so-called 'Houston Dog' is an item on the menu of one hot dog purveyor in Houston. It is NOT a well-known regional version of a hot dog. Just because one hot dog vendor, with one location, decides to name something 'Houston' does not grant it this sort of status. Look at the citations in the Wiki article for the "Houston Dog" - they all ultimately refer to Yo-yo's hot dogs - the very same vendor who named it. It may very well be tasty (I have not, and will not, try it - it sounds terrible to me), but again, it's one vendor's name.

We have multiple sushi restaurants in the Houston area with things they call 'Houston rolls' or 'Texas Rolls' or even 'NASA rolls', but that doesn't mean they are a de facto recipe for a well known sushi roll - in fact, they are usually different from each and every sushi bar. I submit this is the same thing, just in hot dog format instead of sushi.

As such, let's please remove this food atrocity from the wikipedia article. Almost nobody in the Houston area is familiar with this (4+ million people can't possibly all be wrong). Those who ARE familiar with this 'version' only know it because they have been to this vendor. I do see multiple attempts were made to remove reference to it from the wikipedia article, but it was reinstated for reasons I don't really understand.

We don't really have a special hot dog for our area. we tend to like what we like, whether it be 'old faithful' with 'standard' toppings, or chili and cheese, or 'chicago style' (which IS a recognized set of condiments). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C5:847F:EC90:9CAE:3C1:247E:D51B (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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