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*'''Delete; oppose redirect'''. Fails GNG, and the 5 people listed at [[Ritter (surname)#P]] (among others) are more likely search targets; redirecting to a sports event would likely cause readers great surprise. <sub>[[User:Wjemather|<span style="color:#0D5218">wjemather</span>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Wjemather|<span style="color:#520D0D">please leave a message...</span>]]</sup> 08:58, 22 June 2022 (UTC) |
*'''Delete; oppose redirect'''. Fails GNG, and the 5 people listed at [[Ritter (surname)#P]] (among others) are more likely search targets; redirecting to a sports event would likely cause readers great surprise. <sub>[[User:Wjemather|<span style="color:#0D5218">wjemather</span>]]</sub><sup>[[User talk:Wjemather|<span style="color:#520D0D">please leave a message...</span>]]</sup> 08:58, 22 June 2022 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete'''. The only sources are sports DB's, and we don't even know the first name. Fails every notability guideline. That's just not |
*'''Delete'''. The only sources are sports DB's, and we don't even know the first name. Fails every notability guideline. That's just not enough to go on, and unacceptable for redirect. [[User:Jacona|Jacona]] ([[User talk:Jacona|talk]]) 16:14, 22 June 2022 (UTC) |
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*This can be renamed to [[P. Ritter (gymnast)]] then [[P. Ritter]] can be redirected to the surname. Then the article can be redirected to the US 1904 Olympics page, and the AFD is unnecessary and can be deleted. Is there a reason this has not been done already, other than the opportunity to improve some participants' AFD stats? [[Special:Contributions/82.132.185.171|82.132.185.171]] ([[User talk:82.132.185.171|talk]]) 21:03, 22 June 2022 (UTC) |
*This can be renamed to [[P. Ritter (gymnast)]] then [[P. Ritter]] can be redirected to the surname. Then the article can be redirected to the US 1904 Olympics page, and the AFD is unnecessary and can be deleted. Is there a reason this has not been done already, other than the opportunity to improve some participants' AFD stats? [[Special:Contributions/82.132.185.171|82.132.185.171]] ([[User talk:82.132.185.171|talk]]) 21:03, 22 June 2022 (UTC) |
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTSCRIT #5, and suitable coverage is unlikely to be available as we don't know basic biographical details about him, such as his first name or date of birth, that would allow us to find such coverage.
Renominating after a procedural keep. Redirect is not suitable per WP:R#DELETE #1; it would make it unreasonably difficult for readers to find other people who are mentioned or are notable with the same initials. BilledMammal (talk) 04:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 04:53, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Olympics-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 06:54, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Redirect to United States at the 1904 Summer Olympics#Gymnastics. A redirect is suitable per WP:R#KEEP #1, WP:ATD, WP:PRESERVE and WP:CHEAP. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:41, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete intial plus last name is not really a good point to redirect from. Beyond this the 1904 Olympics were hardly an Olympics at all, basically just an auxiliary to the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair, and not really a top international competition, so assuming that there is any reason to redirect from all the names of the competitors is just plain not justified.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:09, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:33, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete; oppose redirect. Fails GNG, and the 5 people listed at Ritter (surname)#P (among others) are more likely search targets; redirecting to a sports event would likely cause readers great surprise. wjematherplease leave a message... 08:58, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. The only sources are sports DB's, and we don't even know the first name. Fails every notability guideline. That's just not enough to go on, and unacceptable for redirect. Jacona (talk) 16:14, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- This can be renamed to P. Ritter (gymnast) then P. Ritter can be redirected to the surname. Then the article can be redirected to the US 1904 Olympics page, and the AFD is unnecessary and can be deleted. Is there a reason this has not been done already, other than the opportunity to improve some participants' AFD stats? 82.132.185.171 (talk) 21:03, 22 June 2022 (UTC)