Talk:Lord Byron

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Minor edit to wording of parenthesis under Family and Early Life

In this passage, the wording in the parenthesis is a bit confusing: "... mother named him after her own father George Gordon of Gight.[19] (His grandfather was a descendant of James I of Scotland, and died by suicide in 1779.)"

Due to the unclear pronoun antecedent, it looks like "his grandfather" means George Gordon of Gight's grandfather. From looking at the cited article, however, it seems George Gordon of Gight himself died by suicide, not his grandfather. (The "his" evidently refers to Lord Byron, since George Gordon of Gight was Lord Byron's maternal grandfather, but that is not clear in the current wording.) I suggest minor grammatical editing:

"...but as her husband remained absent, his mother named him after her own father George Gordon of Gight, who was a descendant of James I of Scotland and died by suicide in 1779.[19]"

The article cited does not seem to mention James I, but only "Stewart blood." I'm leaving James I and just editing for grammar. --Hypoplectrus (talk) 18:52, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Nobility in the short description

It doesn't really matter that much. Really really not. But does the short description really need to say that he was a nobleman? It is right there in the article name (unless you are worried that it's his Jazz Name like Duke Ellington and his real name was just Steve Byron etc) and if anyone looks at the article it's right there in your face in a moment. I am not willing to go to fisticuffs over this, but when I think of him I just think "poet" – his other job prancing around in ermine (?) doesn't seem that relevant, and in particular doesn't seem worth mentioning in his short description. It's a fact, yes, but so is the fact that he's Ada's dad too, or liked motorbikes, or whatever, and we don't mention that there ... But YMMV. I'd be interested to know what others think, and to hear from the IP who is keen on its inclusion. Cheers DBaK (talk) 07:45, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

I agree. I also think that referring to a 19th century Englishman as a "nobleman" (rather than, eg, as a "peer") sounds ever so slightly odd in British English. 45ossington (talk) 10:28, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

More please on that memorial prompted by Ripley caption (re section Post-Mortem)

Robert Ripley had drawn a picture of Boatswain's grave with the caption "Lord Byron's dog has a magnificent tomb while Lord Byron himself has none". This came as a shock to the English, particularly schoolchildren, who, Ripley said, raised funds of their own accord to provide the poet with a suitable memorial.

This could do with a year and a location of that memorial to Byron being stated. Ripley lived 1890-1949 and the caption was in a series of 'Believe It or Not' published in 1950. I am not sure if Ripley was unaware of the gravestone in Hucknall Church presented by the King of Greece, and the statue unveiled in 1880 in Hyde Park Corner, London, whose plinth was a gift of the Greek Government.Cloptonson (talk) 17:26, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

"Laying in state"

In Britain, "lying in state" takes place only in Westminster Hall. A public viewing in any other location is "lying in repose." --Kent G. Budge (talk) 15:15, 6 June 2021 (UTC)