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== Statesman == |
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Isn’t it time to add “statesman” to the introduction. Considering the amount of international diplomacy he is doing and the impact he has had on the world. I can’t think of a modern politician who deserves this label more. Even the Russian Wikipedia describes him as such. Come on! [[User:Kaprekar30|Kaprekar30]] ([[User talk:Kaprekar30|talk]]) 07:21, 24 June 2022 (UTC) |
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"former actor, and former comedian"
I don't see why this cannot be phrased as "former actor and comedian". No need for two former's Rousillon (talk) 19:40, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, that makes more sense. Furius (talk) 21:06, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't. It can still be easily read as a former actor, but still a comedian - or that he used to be an actor, but then became a comedian.
- Consider something like "former comedic actor", or "formerly an actor/comedian", as they cannot be misinterpreted. Chaosdruid (talk) 06:18, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- I still believe he should be described simply as "former actor". We could say "comic actor" because he mostly acted in comedies. He was not a stand-up comedian. My very best wishes (talk) 02:53, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
A "Public image" section in this article
Bit of a Wiki amateur here, but does this article need a "Public image" section, as there are in articles for other world leaders? Zelensky has been propelled into an international limelight as a result of the invasion, his response to which has won him international praise but also concerns about his governance. Before the war, he was also known in Ukraine - and likely won the election - because of his communication style and social media savvy. Doesn't his domestic and international public image - pre and post invasion - deserve a separate section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.180.192.10 (talk) 12:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, sure, and you are welcome to suggest your version here. My very best wishes (talk) 03:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- A touch late but I want to add to this point that his "reaction image" to the atrocities committed in Bucha should be included in this article somewhere. It's a haunting photograph and conveys his emotions regarding the current war incredibly well. Ruby.Boulton (talk) 00:00, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
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Please change the "57th Guards Motor Division" to the "153rd Rifle Division" in his early life period. During WW2, it was called the 153rd Rifle Division still. 70.89.96.6 (talk) 17:41, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: A source provided within the relevant sentence refers to it as the 57th, so it would probably be best to stick with the source unless there is consensus to do otherwise. —Sirdog (talk) 06:36, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
Suggestion
Hi, would it be possible to change Zelenskyy’s 2019 official portrait to the one after Kyiv was liberated? Just to bring it up to date. Devdevo1919 (talk) 16:06, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Russian name removal
I suggest we remove the Russian name since he's the president of Ukraine and Ukraine has only one official language. It was added on [21 April 2022]. He considers himself Ukrainian and Jewish at the same time. What's the point of having the Russian name here? Is he Russian? 212.191.80.243 (talk) 17:07, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Zelenskyy’s first language is Russian.Supernt7852 (talk) 03:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Inaccurate representation of Zelenskyy's social views (section 5.4)
The first part of section 5.4, which refers to source [251], shows an inaccurate representation of Zelenskyy's views as they are represented in source [251] - Section 5.4 should be updated by a qualified editor to be accurate to the source.
Immediately under section 5.4, the article writes:
Zelenskyy supports the free distribution of medical cannabis, free abortion in Ukraine, and the legalisation of prostitution and gambling.[251]
The citation for this is a Russian/Ukrainian language news source in which an interviewer asks questions of Zelenskyy: https://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/vladimir-zelenskiy-nam-vygodno-raspustit-1555546435.html The article misrepresents Zelenskyy's views as explained in this source.
I used Google Translate from Russian to English - all quotations used are directly pasted from Google Translate
The article quotes Zelenskyy as saying about medical cannabis:
"Medical marijuana, I think it's normal, it's sold in drops. By the way, I consulted on this matter with Evgeny Olegovich Komarovsky."
When asked again about legalization, he says: "For legalize droplets - yes."
Section 5.4 makes it seem as though Zelenskyy supports free distribution of medical marijuana. It would be more clear if the article said that he 'supports legalized medical marijuana' or 'legalized medical marijuana droplets.'
On abortion Zelenskyy says:
"Guys, I think that a person chooses an abortion himself, please. I think it should not be banned. Why do we need to talk to you about what to ban?" He follows this up, saying "To be honest, we need to climb into human freedom less."
Section 5.4 grossly misrepresents his views on abortion. Nowhere in this article does it say that he supports free abortion in Ukraine. He specifically says that it should not be banned. Section 5.4 should say this instead of what it says. Similarly to his opinion on cannabis, 5.4 makes it seem as though he supports cost-free abortions.
On Prostitution, Zelenskyy says:
"Sex for money? Honestly, guys, I think we have the opportunity, and I will now answer all the previous questions, to make Las Vegas. Society would not mind, and taxes would be paid. To give an opportunity to some city, some territory and open it all there."
Section 5.4 makes it seem as though he supports prostitution throughout Ukraine, when the source quotes him as being open to legalization in a specific potential territory. It should be updated to reflect his views as per the citation.
Between these 3 issues that I have with the 251 source in Section 5.4, this article should be updated by a qualified editor to reflect Zelenskyy's views as represented in the cited source. I don't know if Google Translate is trusted to be accurate enough for the highest Wikipedia standards. If the translations are accurate, section 5.4 clearly misrepresents his views per the source cited.
WikEdits5 (talk) 07:04, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Statesman
Isn’t it time to add “statesman” to the introduction. Considering the amount of international diplomacy he is doing and the impact he has had on the world. I can’t think of a modern politician who deserves this label more. Even the Russian Wikipedia describes him as such. Come on! Kaprekar30 (talk) 07:21, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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