User talk:Passengerpigeon

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CSD tagging

Hello, Passengerpigeon,

Please do not tag new pages (like Being Human (Music Producer)) right after they have been created. The editor might be working on improving them and it's hard for articles to meet Wikipedia standards 5 or 10 minutes after they have been created. If the editor is working on the article, please give them more time before tagging a page to be deleted. And if you could help them improve the article, even better! Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:27, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

• Dear @Liz:, thanks for reaching out to me; I already follow that principle with A1 and A3 deletions, but in this case, nothing the page creator could have done in terms of finding sources etc. would have prevented deletion, because it was clear that the subject simply wasn't notable enough. Thank you, Passengerpigeon (talk) 04:31, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Melbourne Tramcar Preservation Association

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Adopt me

I want to be adopted. I've been editing for a month but I keep making mistakes. I only edit outer space related articles. There is a discussion about me at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents - Wikipedia. When you respond, please {{mention}} me. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 18:38, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello Passengerpigeon:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 1700 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Uw-voteremoved

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Mentoring

Hello, I'm hoping to publish an article and am interested in being taken on as a mentee or adoptee. Are you adopting this year? Thanks! Nellas Galadhon (talk) 22:06, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for merger of Template:Uw-notenglish-contrib

Template:Uw-notenglish-contrib has been nominated for merging with Template:Uw-notenglishedit. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Eyesnore 22:37, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Adoption

Hi I am new to Wilipedia and I would like a mentor. I need a mentor so much I don't know how does this mentor thing work. Otaku Anonymous (talk) 17:10, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Adoption

Hi I am new to Wilipedia and I would like a mentor. I need a mentor so much I don't know how does this mentor thing work. Otaku Anonymous (talk) 17:10, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021

New Page Review queue September 2021

Hello Passengerpigeon,

Please join this discussion - there is increase in the abuse of Wikipedia and its processes by POV pushers, Paid Editors, and by holders of various user rights including Autopatrolled. Even our review systems themselves at AfC and NPR have been infiltrated. The good news is that detection is improving, but the downside is that it creates the need for a huge clean up - which of course adds to backlogs.

Copyright violations are also a serious issue. Most non-regular contributors do not understand why, and most of our Reviewers are not experts on copyright law - and can't be expected to be, but there is excellent, easy-to-follow advice on COPYVIO detection here.

At the time of the last newsletter (#25, December 2020) the backlog was only just over 2,000 articles. New Page Review is an official system. It's the only firewall against the inclusion of new, improper pages.

There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software.

Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here.

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For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.

Statue of Unity

Instead of edit warring there, just look at the talk page and it would be easy for you to realize that we got a WP:1AM unwilling to leave WP:DEADHORSE. Azuredivay (talk) 10:35, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Azuredivay, I am not entirely sure what you mean by this. Are you saying that there is one stubborn editor removing this content repeatedly? Also, I wasn't trying to edit-war; I just made that edit because I was reading the article and noticed that the section I saw a previous time I read it had been removed. Thank you, Passengerpigeon (talk) 13:00, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Single user who is repeatedly adding poorly written synthesis even after being described by multiple users about the problems with his content. That's all. Azuredivay (talk) 13:51, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Azuredivay Please post your concerns on the talk page where I've been engaged over multiple months. There has been no reply on my last comment for more than a month. Instead of voicing your concerns there, you chose to revert my edit without any discussion.coolk (talk) 19:05, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

November 2021 backlog drive

New Page Patrol | November 2021 Backlog Drive
On November 1, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Redirect patrolling is not part of the drive. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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Maximilian Dood

Hey, thank you so much for turning my Maximilian Dood draft into an actual article! I was going to submit it via AfC, but I appreciate you saving me the time (and anxiety) of waiting for someone to review it! PantheonRadiance (talk) 05:41, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

• No problem; I sometimes move drafts straight into article space without waiting for the submission template if I can see that they're already good enough to be articles. Also, your account is now autoconfirmed, which means you can create articles directly without using draftspace first. Thank you, Passengerpigeon (talk) 13:59, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Do guys think SSSniperWolf has a chance? It was salted. 221.155.34.5 (talk) 11:32, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Please mentor me

Hello. I have recently gotten a topic ban and would like someone to mentor me. Would you please do that? 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 11:15, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

• Sure. I have created a page at User:Chicdat/Adoption school. Let me know when you have finished some of the questions and I will mark them. Passengerpigeon (talk) 13:28, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
  • I've finished the "Cleanup" section. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 12:40, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

• @Chicdat: I realise now that the adoption quiz may be a bit beginnerish considering you have been here a while and that you might have been seeking a different form of mentoring; what did you have in mind? Of course, you're welcome to continue the quiz if you want. Passengerpigeon (talk) 15:37, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Correct; I've already been in one mentorship program, so I've done reliable sources, but just when I was about to take the "Administrative involvement" section, my mentor retired. Perhaps I could skip to Deletion? 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 11:18, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

• • @Chicdat: Good idea. Passengerpigeon (talk) 21:30, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

I've done all but one of the CSD problems (I have no idea on one of them). 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 12:49, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

• @Chicdat: I will mark them now. Please link the pages you cleaned up in the Cleanup section. Thanks for persevering, Passengerpigeon (talk) 13:24, 21 November 2021 (UTC) Edit: Oh, never mind, turns out you already did - I created the page User:Chicdat/Adoption school but you used User:Chicdat/Adoption School instead.
  • I was just following the Your First Task instructions. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 13:31, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
    • @Chicdat: I have marked the Deletion section. Please retry questions 2, 3 and 4. Passengerpigeon (talk) 14:39, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
      • Retried, and I got them right the 2nd time. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 12:05, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

I get the impression the block and everything sort of ended the adoption, which is all right. I learned a bit about CSD, thank you. 🐔dat (talk) 11:49, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

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Adoption request

Hi Passengerpigeon! Would you like to adopt me? I started editing in late January. Since joining I have done recent changes patrolling. In doing so, I would notice issues with certain articles and I would stick around to see if I can help a bit more; examples:

• Nicolas Schöffer – investigated the cause for a problematic addition (revision) by a good-faith editor (link), and nominated the page that turned out to be the cause of the problem for deletion (MfD discussion, ongoing);
• Nawab Mir Khudrath Nawaz Jung Bahadur – helped remove original research, put up cleanup templates, and did some work on this questionable article;
• Holly Williams (Australian journalist) – tried to mitigate the effects of an editor insisting on various poor changes. At a certain point, I reported them for edit warring (link) which led to the article being protected;
• Draft:Laura Lott - tried to mitigate the effects of a paid editor giving the draft a promotional character, when I feel that it could be a normal draft/article on a notable topic (but maybe I'm wrong!);

Most of my edits in mainspace have been reverts of vandalism. I have nominated around ten pages for speedy deletion. In one such instance, I made a mistake (link)

So that's me thus far, in a nutshell. When looking at the Task Center I realize that I haven't even scratched the surface. However, I'm still mostly interested in recent changes patrolling, and want to stay focused on this for a decent period of time. Maybe I will only be doing this type of maintenance work on Wikipedia. I don't have any ideas for new articles, but I enjoy editing a lot. I want to feel confident that my edits benefit the project, so I can contribute more systematically. Of all the currently available adopters you seem like the one who is probably the most focused on recent changes patrolling and anti-vandalism efforts, which is why I decided to message you. I really hope that you will take me on. Sincerely, tw^sabin 22:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

• AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
• The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Adopt-A-User

Hi, i'm looking for a user to train me in the ways of editing, especially vandalism, I have a little bit of experience doing it. -Toast (talk) 18:06, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello Passengerpigeon,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 811 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 846 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello Passengerpigeon,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.

Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 13830 articles, as of 20:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

Reminders

• Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
• If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.
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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

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On 1 July, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Redirect patrolling is not part of the drive. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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(t · c) buidhe 20:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)